MSI TRIDENT A 9th gen - Adding extra cooling fans

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Hi all,

I have a question about my new purchase. I bought an MSI Trident A 9th gen and i should say that it is a superb machine (i5-9400F, 16 GB RAM, 1tb HDD, 250GB SSD, RTX 2060). I changed directly the stock RAM (2x 8gb) by two HyperX 32 gb (total) low latency (C13) sticks and i ordered already another 1 TB M2 SDD memory. Still, i am wondering if it is possible to add (ultra small) fans to this machine to cool the mini-ITX system better. I am aware of the fact that there is barely any space left in the case, but still i thought that it might be possible to add new, ulta-small fans (20 mm x 20 mm x 20 mm fans or even smaller).  

So i inspected the system from inside, and there is still a lot of space left in the GPU compartment. The PSU compartment is completely claimed by the PSU whereas space in the motherboard compatment is also limited.

I never added fans to an computer system, so i really need help from someone who did this before. Is it possible to add one (or more) fans to the system and furthermore: how and which materials are necessary to achieve this?

Many thanks in advance,

Selcuk

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Really? i was thinking to add ultra mini fans to the right side of the machine (next to the cpu fan) to blow all the air to the back end of the machine. using 20x20 mm fans.

Or is this not possible and what are the risks?

cheers,

Selcuk
 

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So i added one 40x40 mm fan as you can see on the picture. I used an Y-splitter and connected this one on the cpu header but since this fan has only three pins, it is just working on full speed.

Does anyone knows if this extra fan can lead to damage of the mobo? it is a 12V, 0,48W fan (so in theory, is uses 0,04A). Is that too much in combination with the CPU Fan or might this be OK?

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And is it wise to add another (identical) fan below the 1st one? or is that maybe too much for the motherboard?
 

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Can you please tell me if the PSU will support 110v/220v? 

Thank you
 

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i dont know, i am not an expert in this field....
 

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thanks anyway, it would say on the back where you plug the power cord in "110v-240v" or have a switch. 

no way to reach MSI and find out. wanted this for a gift for someone out of the country, may not work out.
 

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But i have another question, and it seems that this is really weird..... SEE PICTURES.
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My motherboard (B360I gaming pro ac) does have two additional headers for system fans, but the pins are not there! so i cant add more fans to the system! 

Is this normal? and what is the reason behind this? Can i add these pins to the header, or is that impossible?
 

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selcuk_ date=1591569187 said:
But i have another question, and it seems that this is really weird..... SEE PICTURES.
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My motherboard (B360I gaming pro ac) does have two additional headers for system fans, but the pins are not there! so i cant add more fans to the system!

Is this normal? and what is the reason behind this? Can i add these pins to the header, or is that impossible?
It is an oem board. It will only use what the pc manufacturer needs for the setup. The additional headers from the retail board were obviously not deemed needed.
 

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So for those who are wonders how it looks now: I replaced the delta fan (0,5A) including the stock heatsink with an Noctua NH-L9x65 fan/heatsink. consumes 0,25A now, and cools the CPU WAY better than the stock fan/heatsink. Furthermore, I added 3 40mm Noctua fans on the backside of the PC and two additional 40mm Noiseblocker fans on the bottom of the PC (inside the case). This al together consumes approximately as much (0,25A + (5x0,08) = 0,57A) as the stock Delta fan, but improves the cooling temperature MASSIVELY. Playing Battlefield V on stock configuration led to an average CPU temperature of 73 degrees celsius, whereas now I have an average of 53 degrees celsius. [attachthumb=1]

For an Mini-ITX, the cooling part was already impressive for this PC, but with the mods, this became even more better. Other mods:
- I replaced the RAM by 2x16GB Kingston hyperX (CAS latency 13, 2666mhz) 
- Samsung M2 970 EVO 1TB SSD (3gb/s write-read)
- Heatsinks for both Samsung and WD (stock) M2 SSD

I ordered an I7-9700 processor, so that will be (for now) one of the last upgrades for this system. 

I am little bit disappointed by the graphics card since 4K gaming is not really possible with this ( I now play games on 2K). Since the power supply is the only bottleneck for now, I will wait for the new Ampere graphics cards of Nvidia. These cards are likely produced on a 7nm procede, so that would mean that the powerconsumption per processing unit is significantly lower. I predict that the RTX 3070 will be compatible with my current PSU while playing on 4K without problems. I will definitely buy this card when  available.

Nevertheless, this machine is now quite powerful without having problems when it comes to cooling performance. I am wondering how it will handle the new processor...
 

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BTW i installed the I7 9700 (non-K version and also non-F version) and i should admit that the temperature during playing BF V is around 70 degrees celsius. But today it is also quite hot in my room (35-40 degrees celsius), so it might not be an good situation to test the temperature...

Anyways... i ordered two 40x20 mm noctua fans (to replace the 40x10 mm fans), so hopefully the temperature willl go lower.
 
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So for those who are wonders how it looks now: I replaced the delta fan (0,5A) including the stock heatsink with an Noctua NH-L9x65 fan/heatsink. consumes 0,25A now, and cools the CPU WAY better than the stock fan/heatsink. Furthermore, I added 3 40mm Noctua fans on the backside of the PC and two additional 40mm Noiseblocker fans on the bottom of the PC (inside the case). This al together consumes approximately as much (0,25A + (5x0,08) = 0,57A) as the stock Delta fan, but improves the cooling temperature MASSIVELY. Playing Battlefield V on stock configuration led to an average CPU temperature of 73 degrees celsius, whereas now I have an average of 53 degrees celsius. [attachthumb=1]

For an Mini-ITX, the cooling part was already impressive for this PC, but with the mods, this became even more better. Other mods:
- I replaced the RAM by 2x16GB Kingston hyperX (CAS latency 13, 2666mhz)
- Samsung M2 970 EVO 1TB SSD (3gb/s write-read)
- Heatsinks for both Samsung and WD (stock) M2 SSD

I ordered an I7-9700 processor, so that will be (for now) one of the last upgrades for this system.

I am little bit disappointed by the graphics card since 4K gaming is not really possible with this ( I now play games on 2K). Since the power supply is the only bottleneck for now, I will wait for the new Ampere graphics cards of Nvidia. These cards are likely produced on a 7nm procede, so that would mean that the powerconsumption per processing unit is significantly lower. I predict that the RTX 3070 will be compatible with my current PSU while playing on 4K without problems. I will definitely buy this card when available.

Nevertheless, this machine is now quite powerful without having problems when it comes to cooling performance. I am wondering how it will handle the new processor...
How did this go was thinking the same thing upgrading to noctua for this plus lil fans also there is a top part for the gpu was thing about one there got a gtx 1070 fe blower card with it for cheap
 
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