MSI Ventus 3x 12GB GDDR6X 3080ti Experiencing troubles after 2 months of usage

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Hello. First forum post.

I've been having some strange issues with my build. I recently upgraded and bought all new parts (except for the internal M2 drive, and the external HDD and SSD).

My specs are
Mobo: MAG X570S Max Wifi
CPU: Ryzen 9 5950x
GPU: MSI Ventus 3X 12GB 3080ti
PSU: Cooler Master GX850 Gold
RAM: 2x16GB DDR4 4000MHz T-Force Xtreem ARGB
Missing anything here?

So my computer has been crashing. When I game, it will be running fine, looking beautiful and then BAM! - black screen and PC restarts. I'm able to log right back into windows. PC does not shut off, only restarts. Today, I experienced and issue when watching a youtube video on my second monitor, while playing an easy-to-run game on my main monitor. Both screens froze up and the colors were stretched out boxes and lines of reds, blues, greens and then black everywhere.

The restarts seem to happen when I am gaming. Cyberpunk crashes after 5 - 10 minutes. Red dead crashes randomly, 5 - 20 minutes. It happened with WoW Classic after hours, not minutes like the aforementioned two. Days Gone crashed immediately after loading up.

I checked the event viewer. It says I have experienced warnings, errors, and critical hardware failures. The critical one that causes the restart is the same every time. It says there is some Kernel Power error. I checked online and all the articles/videos said the same things and/or variations of the same thing. I did what they said and still have the issue. I really don't know what else to do. My system is very expensive and I saved for about two years to finally have a good gaming setup. I feel like I'm in dire straits right now with this machine. If it isn't the GPU, I don't know what else it could be. Hopefully someone here with some helpful knowledge can chime in and help a PC brother out.

I can attach any files or send any other pertinent information that is requested of me in order to fix this issue.

Thank you kindly in advance.
 

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Check for heating issue's does the case have adequate air flow? take the side cover off and run it without it to see if it heats up with it off.
 

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Try a different, powerful enough and quality PSU.
 

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Check for heating issue's does the case have adequate air flow? take the side cover off and run it without it to see if it heats up with it off.
Thank you for your reply! The temps have been running fine I believe. The ryzen 9 gets pretty hot but I read that it is designed to do that (60C - 80+C). My GPU sits at around 35 idle and then goes up to 40/50 when gaming. Cyberpunk takes it up to 78 and sometimes 80. I have afterburner installed as well for fan tweaks. Also the case is a phanteks and I have good airflow.
 

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Try a different, powerful enough and quality PSU.
Thanks for the reply. So you don't think this PSU is good enough. I read that it was enough to supply the system and saw the reviews. Maybe I could switch to another PSU. Anything better that you recommend?
 

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This is afterburner. I have two mozilla tabs open and I have Cyberpunk downloading in the background and that's it. Is this sort of MHz up and down normal?
 

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Thanks for the reply. So you don't think this PSU is good enough. I read that it was enough to supply the system and saw the reviews. Maybe I could switch to another PSU. Anything better that you recommend?
PSU is Mid tier not really for a High end system like you have


Should enough power but may not be able to deliver it in a nice stable constant rate As Nvidia are power hogs CPU will top out at 220 Watts but GPU will hit 350 to 400 watts

One forum member had done a Guide I can recommend the Enermax D.F Series
Guide: How to find a good PSU
MSI PSU also seem to be of good quality in there reviews
 
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PSU is Mid tier not really for a High end system like you have


Should enough power but may not be able to deliver it in a nice stable constant rate As Nvidia are power hogs CPU will top out at 220 Watts but GPU will hit 350 to 400 watts

One forum member had done a Guide I can recommend the Enermax D.F Series
Guide: How to find a good PSU
MSI PSU also seem to be of good quality in there reviews
Well, thank you for the reply! I'm leaning towards the PSU being the issue as well, especially with these constant Kernel Power errors. My friend recommended an APC UPS Battery for my setup so I don't short anything. The country I live in has some backwards electrical setups in the walls sometimes and it can be quite sketchy over here. I will also look into getting the one of the high-end Seasonic 1000w PSUs.

However, I will read both of these and make a decision. I just want it all to be ok. So frustrating. It just crashed and restarted to day even when I wasn't gaming. I was just browsing online and then it went black and restarted.
 

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PSU is Mid tier not really for a High end system like you have


Should enough power but may not be able to deliver it in a nice stable constant rate As Nvidia are power hogs CPU will top out at 220 Watts but GPU will hit 350 to 400 watts

One forum member had done a Guide I can recommend the Enermax D.F Series
Guide: How to find a good PSU
MSI PSU also seem to be of good quality in there reviews

Was thinking about this one. Saw lots of 3080ti owners recommend this. Not sure though.
 

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Thanks for the reply. So you don't think this PSU is good enough. I read that it was enough to supply the system and saw the reviews. Maybe I could switch to another PSU. Anything better that you recommend?
Thanks for the reply. So you don't think this PSU is good enough.
I didn't said that, but any hardware have a chance to become defective.
 

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So I went and swapped the PSU with the Seasonic, and not one crash all day. Will update in a week or so. Thank you all for the help. Truly.
 

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Im having the same issue with same GPU. Which PSU did you go with and what does your afterburner show? When i game its same as yours
This may help you work out why but it is caused mainly by Power spikes
The GPU puts high stress on the Power Supply and after several mounts some of then just can not cope with the constant power spiking and start to Reset.

Transients and power supply recommendation
As I have already proved in detail in my basic article “The battle of graphics card against power supply – power consumption and load peaks demystified”, there are also higher loads in the millisecond range, which can lead to unexplainable shutdowns in the case of unfavorably designed or improperly equipped power supplies. The TBP (Typical Board Power) measured by the graphics card manufacturer or the reviewers alone does not really help in this case for a stable system design.



Peaks with intervals between 1 and 10 ms can lead to shutdowns in very fast reacting protective circuits (OPP, OCP), especially in multi-rail power supplies, although the average power consumption is still within the standard. For this card, I would therefore calculate at least 430 bsi 450 watts for the normal OC with up to 370 watts as the power limit as the graphics card load in proportion to the total secondary power consumption of the system, in order to have enough reserves for the worst case scenario. A short excerpt with higher resolution shows us now the 20 ms measurements (10 μS intervals), as I let them run automatically for value determination:
 

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So, is 1000w enough? Where does this leave for error or future upgrades?
Well that depend on what you upgrade to I guess but if your GPU has 600 watt power draw you may need 1200 watt ATX3.0 PSU.
Will have to wait see how the Next GEN of GPU affect PSU performance
 
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Event ID 7023, 10002, 10016, 10010...tons of stuff. And yes, I also have the WHEA-Logger error 18.
So, before replacing your PSU, I'd recommend that you delve into BIOS and change the "Power Supply Idle Control" setting to "Typical Current Idle". May well help and definitely won't hurt.
On my board (B550 Gaming Carbon Wifi) the full path is OC --> Advanced CPU Configuration --> AMD CBS --> Power Supply Idle Control.
 
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