MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios

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Any news on the above board for the next bios release which will support AMDs AGESA 1.0.0.6 ?

I see ASUS and ASRock already have a beta bios out containing this update from AMD, and WOW is all I can say, opens up ram support to 4000mhz etc, loads of people are reporting the cold boot issues are gone, and they are overclocking there ram to 3600mhz and beyond easily, it seems to fix so many problems, but not seen anything from MSI yet at all, not even a beta.
 

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It will be released sooner or later. I guess not later than in 2 weeks.
 

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I'm DYING for AGESA 1.0.0.6 specifically for the 4000 mhz unlock. I bought DDR4 3600 15-15-15-35 1.35v memory for the specific reason of it being the best and fastest kit (in ns) within the 3000-4333 area @ 8.33 ns.... literally the fastest ram on the market in terms of latency mixed with speed. Every other kit is 9 ns or slower. Granted, we are talking ns, im a bit of enthusiast. LOL.

Getting pissed that Asrock, Asus, Gigabyte, all have 1.0.0.6 added. HOWEVER, I also think back to the x370 pro carbon running flawlessly for me since day 1, so there is THAT. Not to mention building 3 total rigs with this board and all 3 have been flawless in performance..... but having to wait for this agesa code update is getting me itchy. I wanna see how it changes my overall speeds and bench results especially since how the ryzen chips relate to overall mhz speed as well.

I currently run 3200 which was a huge improvement over others who have been running slower speeds, I'm itchy to see how 3600 fairs over 3200..... even if its a little bitch, I want the most from my rig.
 

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Please be patient. There is nothing we can do at this moment. Darkhawk, myself and probably other mods are checking daily for AM4 BIOS updates.
 

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namcost date=1496344114 said:
I'm DYING for AGESA 1.0.0.6 specifically for the 4000 mhz unlock. I bought DDR4 3600 15-15-15-35 1.35v memory for the specific reason of it being the best and fastest kit (in ns) within the 3000-4333 area @ 8.33 ns.... literally the fastest ram on the market in terms of latency mixed with speed. Every other kit is 9 ns or slower. Granted, we are talking ns, im a bit of enthusiast. LOL.

Getting pissed that Asrock, Asus, Gigabyte, all have 1.0.0.6 added. HOWEVER, I also think back to the x370 pro carbon running flawlessly for me since day 1, so there is THAT. Not to mention building 3 total rigs with this board and all 3 have been flawless in performance..... but having to wait for this agesa code update is getting me itchy. I wanna see how it changes my overall speeds and bench results especially since how the ryzen chips relate to overall mhz speed as well.

I currently run 3200 which was a huge improvement over others who have been running slower speeds, I'm itchy to see how 3600 fairs over 3200..... even if its a little bitch, I want the most from my rig.
As the top post here in this forum suggest, we don't know when it will happen. All we can suggest is to wait patiently.
 

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I hate to say this but delays like this are exactly why I won't buy MSI for motherboards ever again.  Their major competition (Gigabyte, AS Rock, and Asus) already have boards with Agesa 1.0.0.6 and we're stuck waiting with no eta or communication from the company.  This is terrible customer support and MSI needs to learn.

Seriously, MSI start taking your customers seriously and provide them with the information they need.  An ETA should be provided for Agesa and future updates as they are in the pipe.
 

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stephen.j.davidson date=1496764885 said:
I hate to say this but delays like this are exactly why I won't buy MSI for motherboards ever again.  Their major competition (Gigabyte, AS Rock, and Asus) already have boards with Agesa 1.0.0.6 and we're stuck waiting with no eta or communication from the company.  This is terrible customer support and MSI needs to learn.

Seriously, MSI start taking your customers seriously and provide them with the information they need.  An ETA should be provided for Agesa and future updates as they are in the pipe.
Lets set some things straight...

1. MSI does have a number of boards with AGESA 1.0.0.6 already. 
2. Yes, they are slow putting out the updates, and for good reason, to maintain a level of quality instead of just pushing out BIOS's like some others....
3. Even the moderators here are not MSI employees, and therefore are not privy to information like schedules and when new BIOS's are expected to be available.

If you want to talk to MSI, then go here : >>How to contact MSI.<<

Otherwise, see : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
 

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im patient , but i can see the other x370 boards got new bios , but what most important is that my system is stable .. wich it is , wich make me able to live with my ram running only 2400mhz  , i can live with that ...for now , im looking for what to 1.0.0.6 bios to see what it does to my ram , dreaming of 3.4ghz , but hoping for 3.2 :)Hehe
 

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Which MSI boards have Agesa 1.0.0.6?  Apparently I bought the wrong model board.

Also having the moderators out of the loop is MSI's fault.  You guys should be told exactly what's going on with updates so that you can provide that information to the MSI user base.  Also I would like to see far more information about the change log in each bios.  Are these unreasonable requests?

Also lets not be too quick to talk about MSI and their "level of quality"...  who are we kidding?  They're no better or worse than everyone else.  Just slower it seems
 

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stephen.j.davidson date=1496768858 said:
Which MSI boards have Agesa 1.0.0.6?  Apparently I bought the wrong model board.

Also having the moderators out of the loop is MSI's fault.  You guys should be told exactly what's going on with updates so that you can provide that information to the MSI user base.  Also I would like to see far more information about the change log in each bios.  Are these unreasonable requests?

Also lets not be too quick to talk about MSI and their "level of quality"...  who are we kidding?  They're no better or worse than everyone else.  Just slower it seems
X370 Titanium has 1.0.0.6
B350 Tomahawk, Gaming Plus, PC Mate have 1.0.0.6

Regarding changelogs, it's not like *WE* (the moderators) don't want to provide it. We aren't allowed. Talk to MSI if you want that changed.

Regarding quality....MSI wasn't the OEM releasing a BIOS that bricked all the boards that it got programmed onto....(*coughAsuscoughGigabytecough*)....Say what you want about the slow updates, I agree. It is poor. But here's the thing....it really doesn't belong here. MSI won't be looking at it, and it isn't helpful to ANYONE at all here other than to cause problems. See : >>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
If you want it changed, then I suggest contacting MSI directly here : >>How to contact MSI.<<
 

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Ok, Ok, I hear you already.  I should talk to MSI directly because they completely ignore their own hosted and operated forum section.  Fair enough...

Ticket Submitted : 06/06/2017
 

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stephen.j.davidson date=1496775101 said:
Ok, Ok, I hear you already.  I should talk to MSI directly because they completely ignore their own hosted and operated forum section.  Fair enough...

Ticket Submitted : 06/06/2017
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1. They don't moderate the forum. The moderators do. We do relay information to MSI directly when we do find issues or need more information relating to issues, but MSI does not generally come on the forums.
2. The moderators are not MSI employees.
3. This is a place to help users fix issues, not argue semantics or MSI's established policies (no matter how much you or I agree or disagree with them).
4. I'm all for a discussion of the problems, symptoms, and even work arounds. But bashing MSI, or demanding a fix immediately, isn't tolerable. 

The moderators here work hard to keep this a positive forum, where users can go to get their problems solved. But this constant barrage of negativity will not be tolerated. It doesn't help you and it doesn't help other users.
 

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Darkhawk,

You don't really listen, do you?  I have an issue with MSI the company relative to a MB I bought from them...  I'm trying to find solutions to my issues.  It just so happens the issues I'm facing are related to MSI the company.  I still want solutions and I assume that it's your job to articulate that to MSI is some way.  Me filling in a ticket whining about their lack of decent support/communication isn't going to get my issue solved any faster.  So I came to the forum's with my issues, and now you're telling me to shut up because you don't like the negativity of my tone?

Seriously, my complaints are valid and if a forum isn't the correct place to talk about this then where am I supposed to have this conversation.

Also I'm not demanding an instant fix, I'm asking for an ETA or some kind of progress report which is very reasonable.  I also didn't start this thread, so don't go blaming me for responding to it. If you don't like the tread... delete it.
 

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stephen.j.davidson date=1496781915 said:
Darkhawk,

You don't really listen, do you?  I have an issue with MSI the company relative to a MB I bought from them...  I'm trying to find solutions to my issues.  It just so happens the issues I'm facing are related to MSI the company.  I still want solutions and I assume that it's your job to articulate that to MSI is some way.  Me filling in a ticket whining about their lack of decent support/communication isn't going to get my issue solved any faster.  So I came to the forum's with my issues, and now you're telling me to shut up because you don't like the negativity of my tone?

Seriously, my complaints are valid and if a forum isn't the correct place to talk about this then where am I supposed to have this conversation.

Also I'm not demanding an instant fix, I'm asking for an ETA or some kind of progress report which is very reasonable.  I also didn't start this thread, so don't go blaming me for responding to it. If you don't like the tread... delete it.
I don't listen? Look, I've already linked the rules, multiple times. Before you lecture me, maybe reflect a bit more.
 

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stephen.j.davidson date=1496764885 said:
I hate to say this but delays like this are exactly why I won't buy MSI for motherboards ever again. Their major competition (Gigabyte, AS Rock, and Asus) already have boards with Agesa 1.0.0.6 and we're stuck waiting with no eta or communication from the company. This is terrible customer support and MSI needs to learn. Seriously, MSI start taking your customers seriously and provide them with the information they need. An ETA should be provided for Agesa and future updates as they are in the pipe.
If you share the problem(s) your having some of us may be able to help. We have all had issues of some kind getting our systems up and running well. Personally I am waiting for Aegsa 1.0.0.6 hoping to get 4x8gb @3200 working. The real issue since the beginning has been that AMD rushed Ryzen out the door and used the R7 early adopters as a round of beta testers before the EPYC launch. how can we help.
 

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1. no one has a bios out containing AMD 1.0.0.6 update yet

2. yes some do have beta's but non official

3. if you want to go buy one of there boards and flash the beta, go ahead so we can all laugh at you, when you start posting about all the bugs and problems your having.

4. thank god MSI are testing theirs properly before releasing it to the public, wouldnt you prefer that rather than potentially bricking your board and completely being without your PC.

5. over on Tom's Hardware there was a guy I was helping out who was having issues with an ASUS motherboard running the beta, I had to tell him 5 times to back flash to the previous official before he finally listened, tried it, and just like magic, all the problems were gone.

6. be patient, we are all waiting for it, your not the only one, it will come when its ready.
 

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jamin280672 date=1496853004 said:
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1. no one has a bios out containing AMD 1.0.0.6 update yet

2. yes some do have beta's but non official

3. if you want to go buy one of there boards and flash the beta, go ahead so we can all laugh at you, when you start posting about all the bugs and problems your having.

4. thank god MSI are testing theirs properly before releasing it to the public, wouldnt you prefer that rather than potentially bricking your board and completely being without your PC.

5. over on Tom's Hardware there was a guy I was helping out who was having issues with an ASUS motherboard running the beta, I had to tell him 5 times to back flash to the previous official before he finally listened, tried it, and just like magic, all the problems were gone.

6. be patient, we are all waiting for it, your not the only one, it will come when its ready.
I've never understood why things lack modularity anymore. I mean Android is just now really starting to go fully modular in O so they can divorce themselves from the carriers, OEM's etc more fully. You'd think they could make an API or whatever it'd be called and just query that to get what timings and whatever other settings the AGESA provides and show it in the BIOS. This isn't the 80's with 8K of RAM where we can't fit it all in. Christ, using the L2 as RAM probably has space for it to get going.

Not disagreeing with you, I've just always wondered why I can't pop in pieces to BIOS's. There are ISRT modded bios's with new intel roms included so it can be done.
 

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You guys really need to learn the virtues of patience. We're all waiting for new BIOS, we're all excited about our new Ryzen builds.. but believe me you don't want a pre-release BIOS, they're called beta for a reason. Wait for the full release. MSI is a good company and they won't abandon these new boards any time soon.
 

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It won't really matter to me as I'm grabbing Threadripper when it comes out so even if they did drop board support(which this soon would never happen) I wouldn't care.
 

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tului78 date=1496877817 said:
I've never understood why things lack modularity anymore. I mean Android is just now really starting to go fully modular in O so they can divorce themselves from the carriers, OEM's etc more fully. You'd think they could make an API or whatever it'd be called and just query that to get what timings and whatever other settings the AGESA provides and show it in the BIOS. This isn't the 80's with 8K of RAM where we can't fit it all in. Christ, using the L2 as RAM probably has space for it to get going.

Not disagreeing with you, I've just always wondered why I can't pop in pieces to BIOS's. There are ISRT modded bios's with new intel roms included so it can be done.
It's there. It's been there all the way back to original 8088 days. And it's only gotten better since.

And no, this cannot be done by modders. It isn't physically possible.
And MSI can't do it either. Nor can Asus, Gigabyte, ASRock, or others.

This all goes back down to the base code that is provided from AMD. If it doesn't support it, then the OEM's can't build in support for it. I'm quite certain part of the agreement is they can't when they start using AMD's hardware.

AMD wasn't allowing the OEM's to even add support for various timings within the memory. Not until the AGESA 1.0.0.6 code base was released.
With that newer base code, the OEM's can now modify timings like the command rate, and many more, which were previously not allowed to be changed.

So yes, like Android, it would be great if everything was modular.

But unlike Android, it would be like Google saying you MUST use the Play Store, and ONLY the play store, and you CANNOT use 3rd party stores (like the Amazon App Store, or the many others that exist out there). It's essentially a walled garden of sorts. You either play within that garden, or you don't play at all.
 
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