MSI X370 Gaming Pro Carbon Beta Bios

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A feedback about RAM.

3600MHz CL16 with manual timings runs super fine.

 

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I'm not a fan of the new BIOS UI so i'm still on old 1L BIOS :(
Does the new one have the XMP profiles? what about auto-OC "Game boost"?
I think I'll just stick with the old BIOS until ryzen 4000 is released and then do a complete system upgrade
 

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phrost date=1575841900 said:
Does the new one have the XMP profiles? what about auto-OC "Game boost"?
Both are there. But I don't see the point in upgrading for a Zen1cpu
 

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P0lluxAndCast0r date=1575888284 said:
Both are there. But I don't see the point in upgrading for a Zen1cpu
There isn't one. in fact, we don't recommend upgrading the BIOS if you have a Zen 1 CPU......since ya know....they aren't supported on the newest BIOS's.....
 

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darkhawk date=1575928465 said:
There isn't one. in fact, we don't recommend upgrading the BIOS if you have a Zen 1 CPU......since ya know....they aren't supported on the newest BIOS's.....
For some reason I assumed they were, oh well thanks for letting me know. Time to start planning my upgrade :)
When I was young I didn't have the money to build a new PC, now I don't have the time.. the irony.
 

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I didn't realize these latest beta are not for the 1700X either; it would be good for MSI to label as such.  I had assumed that they where universal, since there's no explicing statement.  That means that MSI should fork the BIOS download page and have entries for ZEN 1 vs ZEN 3.  What about ZEN 2? is a 2700X supported?
 

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jderas date=1576873800 said:
That means that MSI should fork the BIOS download page and have entries for ZEN 1 vs ZEN 3.
Great idea, should they fork production lines as well and sell "zen 2 only" and "not for zen 2" boards?
 

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jderas date=1576873800 said:
I didn't realize these latest beta are not for the 1700X either; it would be good for MSI to label as such.  I had assumed that they where universal, since there's no explicing statement.  That means that MSI should fork the BIOS download page and have entries for ZEN 1 vs ZEN 3.  What about ZEN 2? is a 2700X supported?
I won't disagree with you regarding them mentioning that the newer BIOS's don't work with the older CPU's. They should. 

In the end though, the new BIOS's won't do anything to help with older CPU's. AMD isn't developing the code for them anymore.....So going to the latest BIOS really won't buy you anything if you're on a Zen 1 anyway......

The only reason to update code for a 2(actually 5) gen old CPU is if there was a hack/backdoor (see Intel's issues....).
 

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@darkhawk

True, unless there are some enhancements or bugfixes.  For importantly, we are all conditioned to run newer BIOS specially if there's some improvements in memory overclocking for example.  And the BIOS notes for the latest beta state:

- Improved OC memory compatibility.
- Improved system boot up time
- Improved PCI-E device compatibility.

For the mods, perhaps you could bring this up with MSI?
 

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jderas date=1577058292 said:
@darkhawk

True, unless there are some enhancements or bugfixes.  For importantly, we are all conditioned to run newer BIOS specially if there's some improvements in memory overclocking for example.  And the BIOS notes for the latest beta state:

- Improved OC memory compatibility.
- Improved system boot up time
- Improved PCI-E device compatibility.

For the mods, perhaps you could bring this up with MSI?
Again, they aren't actively doing anything with the older CPU's. 
Improved memory compatibility won't have anything to do with older CPU's.......it deals with the new ones. 

Again, even if it says that, it won't be referencing a CPU that's 2 (or 4) generations old.....it wouldn't (most likely) pertain to even the 2xxx series CPU's. It deals with the 3xxx and the changes they're making to make it more compatible.

And to be honest, I don't think AMD even makes it public what the AGESA code is, or what each update contains......
Honestly, that's one of my biggest gripes anymore with AMD and AGESA....it's so poorly handled. I'm surprised most of the OEM's even know what's going on, from what I hear.
 

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Again, my comments are to ensure that MSI are not going to push this to non-applicable users.  So if as you state these updates are not for Gen 1, then is the MSI desktop app going to exclude suggesting this BIOS upgrade?  And as I mentioned MSI should specifically tell users not to use this BIOS upgrade on older deployments. As it stands now, there's nothing indicating to a user if they should or shound't runt he BETA (and later released) BIOS on their rigs if they have a Gen 1 Ryzen CPU.
 

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jderas date=1577994604 said:
Again, my comments are to ensure that MSI are not going to push this to non-applicable users.  So if as you state these updates are not for Gen 1, then is the MSI desktop app going to exclude suggesting this BIOS upgrade?  And as I mentioned MSI should specifically tell users not to use this BIOS upgrade on older deployments. As it stands now, there's nothing indicating to a user if they should or shound't runt he BETA (and later released) BIOS on their rigs if they have a Gen 1 Ryzen CPU.
I don't disagree. However complaining here accomplishes nothing. I can report it, but it won't matter.

Unless they get customer complaints, they really won't do much/anything. So contact them directly about it. See : >>How to contact MSI.<<
I say this because I agree with your sentiment there. There should be a note. But even me reporting it won't make any difference. But real users? Yeah, that will.
 

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Hi I have just upgraded to a 3700x after flashing to 7A32v1NV while I know it is a Beta I am having some weird behaviour.

If I change my pump speed in the bios when I boot back into windows I am stuck at 0.9v 546mhz and the only way out of it seems to be go back to the bios and load defaults.
If I check my fan curves using Command centre it sometimes changes the CPU to 0.9v completely stuck til I clear the bios again.
I think even ryzen master has got my 3700x stuck at least once.

Anyone else having this problem????

AMD Ryzen 3700x
X370 Carbon Pro BIOS 1.NV
Geforce 1080
16GB 3200 Corsair RGB pro xmp profile 1
250gb WD black NVME
+ other SSD's
1x4tb seagate Ironwolf

hx850i 80+ platinum PSU
 

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phrost date=1575929238 said:
For some reason I assumed they were, oh well thanks for letting me know. Time to start planning my upgrade :)
When I was young I didn't have the money to build a new PC, now I don't have the time.. the irony.
In Italy we say:
- When you are young you have energy and time to make lots of things... but you don't have the money
- When you are working you have energy and money to make lots of things... but you don't have the time
- When you are retired you have money and time to make lots of things... but you don't have the energy...
 
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