My CPU Temperature

[nedukas44128102ab]

Greetings, I just wanted to ask about my CPU temperature and if that is usaully normal or safe for MSI gaming laptops. When I playing games, my CPU temperature sometimes rises to 85 to 91 degress but quickly falls back to 85. It usually stays around that temperature. I'll leave an attached file for my gaming laptop model for viewing. I don't know if I'm over reacting or if this is normal for gaming laptops but I'd really like to know more about this. Also, it's a brand new laptop that was bought 3 to 4 months ago somewhere around.

 

[citay]

DxDiag is not the right tool to judge what is happening. Instead, check the sensors with HWinfo64. Run it and open "Sensors", then expand all sensors by clicking on the little <--> arrows on the bottom. Also expand the columns of the sensors a bit so everything can be read. Make it three big columns of sensors. First let it run in idle for a while, so the "minimum" baselines for the values are established. After a short time in idle, produce full CPU load with Cinebench R23, and after the 10 minutes, when the CPU temperatures have stabilized at the highest level, take a screenshot. This will show all the important sensor data at once, both for no load and full load. Then i can tell you what's going on.

In the end, it should be a screenshot with all the sensors visible, like this:

 

[raimondkieftenbel157602de]

its common dat cpu temps with laptops get that high.
My Lenovo legion pro 5 does the same.With an 5800h AMD cpu
Laptops always run way hotter then desktops.

If the game is cpu intensive like for instance bf2042,it will spike up even higher.
These things are too thin and small for all the heat tit needs too take care off.
And that will cause heat.

 

[darkhawk]

You have a laptop.
More of less, your CPU can heat up VERY quickly, and has very little cooling capacity compared to a desktop system. The heatsink and fans are smaller, so there's less area to dissipate the heat, much less remove it from the system. The fans don't move as much air, so less cooling capacity.

What you're seeing is when you start a game or benchmark or something CPU intensive, you see the CPU heat up very quickly, which is normal even in desktop systems.
The reason it drops over time is because the cooling system will slowly ramp up the fans in the laptop to blow more air, thereby increasing the cooling ability of the laptop, and cause the CPU to cool down.
On top of that, as the CPU heats up and reaches a point where it needs to clock down the CPU due to heat. Again, that's normal and happens without your interruption. But generally speaking, it clocks down a little bit (to whatever it's highest base frequency is), and it creates less heat, which helps the cooling system catch up.

The cooling system in your laptop is a lot like following another car on the highway. If they floor it, it's going to take you a little bit to realize they floored it and for you to react to it. The cooling is the same way, it needs to see the temperature rise before it starts reacting.
HOWEVER, if you go into MSI Center and enable the 'cooler boost' function, you can have it providing the maximum cooling available right away before running the game. I sometimes do this with my laptop (GE 66 Raider), and it works pretty well overall to help keep the temps lower right from the start, however, ultimately, the laptop only has so much cooling capability, and the CPU and GPU generally far exceed what it can do.

 

[nedukas44128102ab]

You have a laptop.
More of less, your CPU can heat up VERY quickly, and has very little cooling capacity compared to a desktop system. The heatsink and fans are smaller, so there's less area to dissipate the heat, much less remove it from the system. The fans don't move as much air, so less cooling capacity.

What you're seeing is when you start a game or benchmark or something CPU intensive, you see the CPU heat up very quickly, which is normal even in desktop systems.
The reason it drops over time is because the cooling system will slowly ramp up the fans in the laptop to blow more air, thereby increasing the cooling ability of the laptop, and cause the CPU to cool down.
On top of that, as the CPU heats up and reaches a point where it needs to clock down the CPU due to heat. Again, that's normal and happens without your interruption. But generally speaking, it clocks down a little bit (to whatever it's highest base frequency is), and it creates less heat, which helps the cooling system catch up.

The cooling system in your laptop is a lot like following another car on the highway. If they floor it, it's going to take you a little bit to realize they floored it and for you to react to it. The cooling is the same way, it needs to see the temperature rise before it starts reacting.
HOWEVER, if you go into MSI Center and enable the 'cooler boost' function, you can have it providing the maximum cooling available right away before running the game. I sometimes do this with my laptop (GE 66 Raider), and it works pretty well overall to help keep the temps lower right from the start, however, ultimately, the laptop only has so much cooling capability, and the CPU and GPU generally far exceed what it can do.

Thank you for the reply and all information provided. I will try the cooler boost but, I do play videogames for a lot of hours so, would you say it's safe playing with these kinds of temperatures?

 

[nedukas44128102ab]

its common dat cpu temps with laptops get that high.
My Lenovo legion pro 5 does the same.With an 5800h AMD cpu
Laptops always run way hotter then desktops.

If the game is cpu intensive like for instance bf2042,it will spike up even higher.
These things are too thin and small for all the heat tit needs too take care off.
And that will cause heat.

Thank you for the reply. I guess it makes sense as laptops are thin but I keep wondering if it's safe?

 

[darkhawk]

Thank you for the reply and all information provided. I will try the cooler boost but, I do play videogames for a lot of hours so, would you say it's safe playing with these kinds of temperatures?

Not much you can do about it. I've had laptops that lasted less than a year, and some that have lasted almost a decade. Even at those temperatures most of the time (gaming laptops).
Ultimately, the 'life' time of a laptop is never guaranteed. Luck of the draw. As I said, some last forever, others, last a few years at most. Design has a little bit to do with it, but MSI's gaming laptops generally are made to handle it as best as they can.
My GT70 lasted until about 2 years ago. That's a roughly 13 or 14 or so year old laptop.....just to give you an idea.

 

[raimondkieftenbel157602de]

Thats

Thank you for the reply. I guess it makes sense as laptops are thin but I keep wondering if it's safe?

Electronics and heat are not the best combo.
But that's the comprimise of an laptop, especialy gaming laptops get hot.
Like Darkhawk said you cant do much about that.
Just use it and don't worry too much,that's what I would do

 

[nedukas44128102ab]

Not much you can do about it. I've had laptops that lasted less than a year, and some that have lasted almost a decade. Even at those temperatures most of the time (gaming laptops).
Ultimately, the 'life' time of a laptop is never guaranteed. Luck of the draw. As I said, some last forever, others, last a few years at most. Design has a little bit to do with it, but MSI's gaming laptops generally are made to handle it as best as they can.
My GT70 lasted until about 2 years ago. That's a roughly 13 or 14 or so year old laptop.....just to give you an idea.

Okay, thanks for letting me know about these things.

 

[nedukas44128102ab]

Thats


Electronics and heat are not the best combo.
But that's the comprimise of an laptop, especialy gaming laptops get hot.
Like Darkhawk said you cant do much about that.
Just use it and don't worry too much,that's what I would do

I guess that is fair enough to say.

 

[nedukas44128102ab]

DxDiag is not the right tool to judge what is happening. Instead, check the sensors with HWinfo64. Run it and open "Sensors", then expand all sensors by clicking on the little <--> arrows on the bottom. Also expand the columns of the sensors a bit so everything can be read. Make it three big columns of sensors. First let it run in idle for a while, so the "minimum" baselines for the values are established. After a short time in idle, produce full CPU load with Cinebench R23, and after the 10 minutes, when the CPU temperatures have stabilized at the highest level, take a screenshot. This will show all the important sensor data at once, both for no load and full load. Then i can tell you what's going on.

In the end, it should be a screenshot with all the sensors visible, like this:

Hello and thanks for the reply. Would you say MSI Center is accurate enough to read CPU and GPU temperatures?

 

[citay]

Hello and thanks for the reply. Would you say MSI Center is accurate enough to read CPU and GPU temperatures?

Nah i don't use MSI Center at all. HWinfo64 is where it's at, it shows way more different sensors.

 

[nedukas44128102ab]

Nah i don't use MSI Center at all. HWinfo64 is where it's at, it shows way more different sensors.

Okay, I'll have a look and get a better understanding more about this program.

 

[___MRDAK___]

Just to say something about temps Yes, you can lower temps, you need to buy best thermal gaming paste, repaste GPU and memory controlers and buy Liquid Metal (thermal grizzly one of the best) and put on CPU. You will gain much lower temps, about 70-80 for CPU and GPU. Diffrent models, diffrent cases and diffrent cpu/gpu.

I have GE76 and for example (ambinet temps is about 22-23c) while playing BF2042 or RDR2 my CPU is about 71 - 75 and GPU 72 - 76 c

 

[raimondkieftenbel157602de]

liquid metal and laptops are not the best combo(seen a lot off reapair shop video's because off this),it also will void warranty,my opinion it is not the best advice

for example:

 

[___MRDAK___]

i m using liquid metal for last 5,6 years on few lap tops and everything was really fine. But must know how to put/spread and results are amazing. Best solutions for gaming laptops

 

[raimondkieftenbel157602de]

thats the problem if you now what you are doing maybe it is ok,but if you mess it up, the laptop could be damaged like that asus in that video
Themal paste is then way more save

 

[___MRDAK___]

Ahahah but, bro this is very amateur (who was putting on CPU liquid metal) This is how i put and nothing go anywhere except CPU. But must know how to put, how thin to be…

 

[raimondkieftenbel157602de]

thats my point exactly, if you do it the good or bad way,that is important.
Good that you point out thought ,how you do it yourself.

 

[___MRDAK___]

Thanx