My motherboard is crazy ( reports 127 C system temp 100C CPU temp and -99 socket temp

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So as said in title some kind of Pc demon took over my motherboard it report insane temperatures but when k measure it in core temp app which takes info directly from cpu everything is completely normal. I don't even know how this happened one day I just restarted Pc and this. Tried to flash bios / turn Pc on and off nothing seems to help it

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Intel Core i5 10600kf
Motherboard : MSI gaming edge wifi z490

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Where do you get these insane temperatures, only in the BIOS? Cause you say with CoreTemp it's all normal?

Can you get HWinfo64 and open "Sensors" with all sensors expanded (click on the little <--> arrows on the bottom). First let it run a bit while in idle, so the "minimum" baselines for the values are established. Then produce full CPU load for example with Cinebench R23. After the CPU temperatures have stabilized at the highest level, take a screenshot. This will show everything at once.
 
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No it shows in dragon centre app too . The fans are at 100% because msi thinks it is 100c. I see I have some real temp issues too when the cpu is underload I had them before but now iam more concerned about the motherboard and its monitoring systems because when it is at 40c it shouldnt say it is at 94. I did paste here some other images too which show that isnt caused by the cpu



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Hmm ok. Try taking out the CMOS battery for a while (resets BIOS settings like Clear CMOS, but can be a bit more thorough sometimes).
 

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Can you show HWinfo64 Sensors with all sensors expanded (click on the little <--> arrows once or twice on the bottom)? It seems the voltages are also not correct.
I need to to see all the sensors in one picture.
 

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Ok. "CPU Package temperature" seems correct (middle window), only the onboard sensors of the mainboard itself are off (right window). Sensors T0 and T1 can be disregarded, they're always weird numbers, but CPU and MOS sensors are clearly not working right. Furthermore, the SA and IO voltages seem very low at 0.7xV, normally they should be around 1V. Even for just DDR4-2400, like you're running because you haven't enabled XMP (definitely enable that), those voltages seem too low. Could be ranother eadout error. Try enabling XMP and check them again. Then we have the rogue fan on System2, but that could be from the fan itself.

Can you do me a favor, disable Gaming Mode in MSI Center, then uninstall it completely. See if that changes anything.
 
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okay did enabled xmp unsintalled the msi app (and disabled gaming mode) now it seems to get tempratures right but the cpu started to overheat for some reason and while iam writing this it is at 80C




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and forgot to say the fans are adapting to tempratures now a bit they slow down when it gets below some temprature but not that drastically because as i said it is at 80C
 

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Did you cause CPU load during the last screenshot? Cause the CPU doesn't clock down at all. If you didn't cause CPU load, there's something not quite right, check your power plan in Windows, should be on "Balanced". The sensors and voltages look ok now. I mean, ok as in, read out correctly, but they are still quite high for the CPU. What CPU cooler do you use? On the screenshot we're around 90W CPU Package Power, any decent cooler should be able to hold that below 80°C.
 
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So i had it on ultimate performance for some reason changed it to balanced and iam using Msi mag coreliquid 240r if it was for me I would have chosen something else I was thinking about nzxt but this computer was prebuilt and I made a mistake I did not checked all parts of the pc and if they tend to fail.
 

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Yes, if you mess around too much with Dragon/MSI Center, it likes to change the power plan to Ultimate Performance, which does absolutely nothing, except cause higher power consumption.
One of the reasons i don't like these "Center" tools.

And yeah, the MSI AIOs are known to develop pump failures sometimes, see https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/cpu-overheating.371437/#post-2105125

So it might be all good now with the sensors, but your AIO might have a problem. This temperature is definitely too high for an AIO with 90W load, it should be way lower with that.
 
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ok just now I did reset the power settings and it suddenly went down I think I set something in there which caused some kind of issue ? maybe ? so here are the stats once again these are after resetting the power settings
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Make sure that whatever power socket you have your pump plugged in to is NOT set for smart fan mode in the BIOS. This can cause some issues with the pump too.
 

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The latest screenshot is with the proper power plan. You can see that because instead of almost 100% "Core C0 Residency" (which means CPU is fully active), it now switches properly between C0 and C7, which is a more energy-saving state of the CPU. The CPU Package Power, instead of hovering around 90W, now goes down to 14W when there's nothing to do. So this is all good. Do not install the MSI app, it's useless, in fact, it can easily cause some problems, as we have seen.

What's not good are still your CPU temperatures. Even 40°C idle is high for an AIO, i mean, we're talking a bit over 10W it has to cool from the CPU, it's like the water is barely moving through there.
So triple-check everything, hear if the pump makes noise, etc. This is also one of the reasons i'm not such a fan of water cooling. Give me a good tower cooler any day.
 
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