NAT hairpinning | NAT loopback support for MSI WIFI routers.

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I would like to get the MSI Radix AX6600 Router.
However I need the router to support the NAT loopback for my PLX and Jellyfin server.
This would allow me to add a single URL to my phone that would work from both the internet and the LAN.
 
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Nichrome said:
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I suggest you contact MSI about any missing features. As unfortunately I don't have one to check anything :(
>>How to contact MSI.<<
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I attempted to find an answer to this question as well by reaching out to MSI support. Unfortunately there are no dedicated networking support technicians available to speak with in live chat. If MSI is serious about being a player in the networking space then they NEED to dedicate appropriate resources to support of these products.

The laptop technician I spoke with was polite and attempted to be helpful but ultimately this networking question was outside of their area of expertise. Networking questions can be complex and therefore appropriately trained networking support specialists are a necessity. This is a MSI management failure not a technician issue. This is a failure of MSI to dedicate appropriate resources and personnel to support staff. I am replying to your response because you are a global moderator and perhaps can pass this feedback on to the appropriate parties.
 
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regete159802e2 said:
I would like to get the MSI Radix AX6600 Router.
However I need the router to support the NAT loopback for my PLX and Jellyfin server.
This would allow me to add a single URL to my phone that would work from both the internet and the LAN.
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I attempted to obtain a response to your question via support and unfortunately was unable to get a definitive answer. All that I can say to you is that this specific router firmware appears to be based on OpenWRT. There are many tutorials on how to configure this feature in OpenWRT available online.

If you are willing to, take a chance on purchasing one and attempt to follow those setup instructions. From what I can see in my webGUI every configuration option noted in the tutorials is a part of the Radix firmware and so it should work. If it fails, that's what returns are for. Good luck in your search and sorry I couldn't be of more help.
 
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Looks like it's also called "NAT reflection".
If anyone can test this out, I would be grateful.

1.) Run a service on an internal device, on a specific port, for instance HTTP or FTP.
2.) On the Router forward said services port to your internal device.
3.) Access said service from outside the LAN, for instance via a phone using the cell data. (This should work if the port forwarding is setup correctly.)
4.) Access said service from inside the LAN but via specifying your public IP address. (for instance via whatsmyip.com).

If it connects in step 4 that means the NAT relection/hairpinning/loopback works!
 
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genesishe14e402cf said:
This is a MSI management failure not a technician issue. This is a failure of MSI to dedicate appropriate resources and personnel to support staff.
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Correct. Unfortunately.
I don't remember which department is responsible for this product, but they certainly are not looking to appeal to anyone but gamers with this product. Can't defend MSI in this area, this router is missing few features I need. I'll ask, but can't really promise anything.
 
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I don't think this is working. I opened tickets #1095517, #1090749, #1090749 with MSI support because the NAT loopback/reflection was working over WiFi but not over a wired connection. My tickets didn't mention NAT loopback or NAT reflection because I didn't know these terms at the time for the issue I was experiencing. Now with firmware 723375 it looks like NAT loopback is broken for WiFi as well. I'd setup a Split DNS but that doesn't work with the public certs I have on most of the port forwarded services. Hopefully MSI takes this feature seriously even for gamer focused routers. All my previous routers (from other manufacturers) supported this without issue.

[UPDATE] Nat loopback/reflection/hairpinning definitely does not work with this router. I setup Split DNS on my LAN which resolved the issue I was having trying to access the services I have exposed via port forwarding from inside my LAN. The cert issue I was worried about turned out to not be an issue since the IP is not in the cert.
 
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Nichrome said:
, this router is missing few features I need.
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If anyone can test this out, I would be grateful.
Same is not fit for my need without additional hardware for VIOP
Since Australia is slowly moving from copper lines to VOIP for most home phones, I need a router that is VOIP compatible
 
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