Need help for an MSI SUPRIM X 4090 24G

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

Good morning,
I will need information because I have an MSI SUPRIM X 4090 and a PSU Cooler Master v1300 Platinum 30th. I noticed that you could switch between mono and multi rai. I currently connect my GPU in 12VHPWR to 4x8 Pin to deliver 600w without problem.

My questions are, what should I put between multi-rail or mono-rail? Which is generally best? I play a lot of very high quality video games.

I also noticed that my GPU is at 450W TDP.
How to increase it up to 600w?

Here is my config:

GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X 24G
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K CPU
RAM x4 (64gb): RAM Gskill D5 7800 32GB C36 TridentZ Z5 / F5-7800J3646H16GX2-TZ5RSRGB K2
CM: MSI MEG Z790 ACE
SSD: Samsung 990 Pro MZ-V9P2T0BW 1TB
PSU: Cooler Master V1300 Platinum 30th Anniversary
Windows 11 Professional 64bit

THANKS !

 

[djmanu7157d02e2]

Hello I also have the rtx 4090 suppress x

this card the tdp is 520watts
Depending on what you are using it will use more or less even if you want to increase the watts a bit increase the power limit with the msi afterburner but as I said the tdp is 520 watts and not all games use the same watts

check the watts in the sensors tab with the gpu-z and stress the graph with the furmark and you will see that you use more than 450watts
This test is done with the power limit n 108%

 

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

Hello I also have the rtx 4090 suppress x

this card the tdp is 520watts
Depending on what you are using it will use more or less even if you want to increase the watts a bit increase the power limit with the msi afterburner but as I said the tdp is 520 watts and not all games use the same watts

check the watts in the sensors tab with the gpu-z and stress the graph with the furmark and you will see that you use more than 450watts
This test is done with the power limit n 108%

Good morning,

Thanks for your advice, I'll take note! Regarding MSI Afterburner, how much did you put for the core clock, memory clock and voltage?

Could you also tell me which would be better between single-rail or multi-rail for my PSU Cooler Master v1300 Platinum in order to have the best optimization in terms of power and also stability? Because I don't quite understand what is best...

 

[djmanu7157d02e2]

I did not touch anything backwards I put power limit at 80% and it works very well
the subject of the cable, if you get 600watts both through the 4 cables or through 2 cables, it is up to you

 

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

Je n'ai rien touché à l'envers j'ai mis la limite de puissance à 80% et ça marche très bien
le sujet du câble, si vous obtenez 600 watts à la fois par les 4 câbles ou par 2 câbles, c'est à vous de décider
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Bon, que ce soit 2 ou 4 câbles pour avoir 600watts, alors le multi-rail (4 câbles) serait plus sécurisant et optimal que 2 câbles, non ? Les 4 câbles permettent de mieux répartir la charge, non ?

 

[djmanu7157d02e2]

If I had a power supply that puts out 600w in two cables, I would prefer less wiring through the box and more security ,
since they have fewer cables to pass the energy.
the 4 wires are unified many wires

 

[badboy2k]

Good morning,

I would like opinions and advice on for my MSI SUPRIM X 4090 GPU which is powered by my Cooler Master v1300 Platinum 30th PSU as my PSU has mono rail and multi rail. What is the difference and what should I take?

My cable is a 12VHPWR which arrives in 4x8 pin to deliver 600W. On the photo that I have attached, where do I have to connect the 4x8pin? I have the 4 on the 8P PCIE +12V2 or only 2 and the other 2 on 8P PCIE +12V1?


Here is my config:

GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM X 24G
CPU: Intel Core i9-13900K CPU
RAM x4 (64gb): RAM Gskill D5 7800 32GB C36 TridentZ Z5 / F5-7800J3646H16GX2-TZ5RSRGB K2
CM: MSI MEG Z790 ACE
SSD: Samsung 990 Pro MZ-V9P2T0BW 1TB
PSU: Cooler Master V1300 Platinum 30th Anniversary
Windows 11 Professional 64bit


thanks you

its better if you split it between +12V1 and +12V2 evenly to spread out the load between the 2 +12V Banks on your PSU.

 

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

its better if you split it between +12V1 and +12V2 evenly to spread out the load between the 2 +12V Banks on your PSU.

Hello, thank you for your feedback. That's what I just did. But on the PSU I have the choice between single rail or multi rail which should I choose? What would be best?

 

[badboy2k]

its naturally a Split +12V Rail PSU with 2 54A +12V Rails meaning it has 2 +12V Regulators and there is not much Difference as all putting it in single RAIL will do is Tie the 2 Regulators together.

Personally I would leave it in its Natural Dual +12V mode as then you have 2 Monitoring Circuits and 2 OCP (Over Current Protection) Circuits in operation as putting it to Single Rail will turn off the 2nd OCP Circuit basically keeping the Redundancy there by having 2 separate OCP's Active.

 

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

its naturally a Split +12V Rail PSU with 2 54A +12V Rails meaning it has 2 +12V Regulators and there is not much Difference as all putting it in single RAIL will do is Tie the 2 Regulators together.

Personally I would leave it in its Natural Dual +12V mode as then you have 2 Monitoring Circuits and 2 OCP (Over Current Protection) Circuits in operation as putting it to Single Rail will turn off the 2nd OCP Circuit basically keeping the Redundancy there by having 2 separate OCP's Active.

Okay so to have some security and redundancy so a better balance I have to leave my PSU in multi rail?

 

[badboy2k]

Okay so to have some security and redundancy so a better balance I have to leave my PSU in multi rail?

yes that is correct. if not its a bit of a gamble.

 

[Alan J T]

Could you also tell me which would be better between single-rail or multi-rail for my PSU Cooler Master v1300 Platinum in order to have the best optimization in terms of

Single Rail as this allows full Power to all parts. Running in Multi-Rail can be problematic depending on how much power each rail can supply as you hit overvoltage much quicker.


Total PSU power is 1300 Watts =108 Amps each rail only supplies 54 Amps = 640 Wattss Over load protection will be about +10% of that befor it kicks in about 700 watts compared to the 1430 watts of single rail.

 

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

Single Rail as this allows full Power to all parts. Running in Multi-Rail can be problematic depending on how much power each rail can supply as you hit overvoltage much quicker.


Total PSU power is 1300 Watts =108 Amps each rail only supplies 54 Amps = 640 Wattss Over load protection will be about +10% of that befor it kicks in about 700 watts compared to the 1430 watts of single rail.
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OK, I understand.
So in a way the single rail allows to have as you say a full power which I will need if I had to launch games or other large software in order to provide my components with direct power, is that right? I admit that I still don't know what to choose between multi rail and mono rail given my configuration... If I followed correctly, then I would have to be on single rail all the time?

 

[Alan J T]

OK, I understand.
So in a way the single rail allows to have as you say a full power which I will need if I had to launch games or other large software in order to provide my components with direct power, is that right? I admit that I still don't know what to choose between multi rail and mono rail given my configuration... If I followed correctly, then I would have to be on single rail all the time?

Yep just leave it on Single rail

 

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

Yep just leave it on Single rail

but there are no risks of having everything on a single track? the multi rail does not allow to have a redundancy precisely and to better distribute the loads?

My cable is a 12VHPWR which arrives in 4x8 pin to deliver 600W. On the photo that I have attached, where do I have to connect the 4x8pin? I have to put 2 of them on 8P PCIE +12V2 and the other 2 on 8P PCIE +12V1 or I put the 4 only on the 8P PCIE +12V2?

 

[Svet]

but there are no risks of having everything on a single track? the multi rail does not allow to have a redundancy precisely and to better distribute the loads?

but there are no risks of having everything on a single track?

No, because you can't connect everything on 1 output(channel).
Single rail has no limits on outputs. [each one can provide the max allowed by the PSU]

also:

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/articles/4415065357069-What-you-need-to-know-about-single-rail-and-multiple-rail-PSU-safety

 

[stephen_rioblan156802dc]

Non, car vous ne pouvez pas tout connecter sur 1 sortie (canal).
Le rail unique n'a pas de limites sur les sorties. [chacun peut fournir le maximum autorisé par le PSU]

aussi:

https://help.corsair.com/hc/en-us/a...t-single-rail-and-multiple-rail- Sécurité PSU

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Ok, donc en résumé le multi rail serait quasiment inutile puisque le mono rail aurait les mêmes propriétés ? Sauf niveau OCP ou le multi rayon serait plus sécurisant pour éviter qu'un composant brûle et pour avoir un meilleur équilibre..?

 

[Alan J T]

>>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
Topic Merged due to Double posting

 

[Svet]

Also please use English only.