NEW BUILD Gaming PC X870E Godlike

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Hello everyone. So I'm planning my new build. The parts i have and the parts i don't have yet.

Parts I Have

MSI X870E GODLIKE - YES

Arctic Freezer III 420mm A-RGB AIO - YES (Checked compatibility with board) - YES

CoolerMaster HAF 700 - YES

DDR5 Memory - YES
G.SKILL Trident Z5 Royal Neo Series (AMD Expo) DDR5 RAM 32GB (2X 16GB) 6000MT/s CL26-36-36-96 1.45V Desktop Computer Memory U-DIMM - Gold (F5-6000J2636H16GX2-TR5NG)

Parts i Still Need.

Mobius 140P ARGB 76.05CFM, 2.3mmH20 30dBA (for radiator AIO Cooler)Your thoughts ?
OR
MasterFan MF140 HALO² ARGB 59.51CFM, 2.53mmH20 27dBA (for radiator AIO Cooler)Your thoughts ?

Mobius 120P ARGB 3-pack Fan Kit - Your thoughts ?
(upgrade over stock HAF 700 sickleflow 120 For case rear exhaust)

AMD 9800X3D

Seasonic PSU

PCI-E 5 M.2 drives

Lian Li Strimer Plus cables
 
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I made a chart comparison of all the fans and their performance ratings if i choose a Corsair fan. Looking at these they appear to be the best ARGB fans for cooling exhaust and intake and static pressure. It's worth noting i already have Corsair ICUE and K57 RGB wireless keyboard and the dark Core Pro SE wireless mouse.

For intake and exhaust fans, they can be 14cm. I think the RX140 MAX might be the best, maximum amount of CFM and least amount of Static pressure 102 CFM. Do you guys think?

For the rear exhaust, they have to be 12cm. I think the RX120 might be the best, maximum amount of CFM and least amount of static pressure 73.5 CFM. What do you guys think ?

For AIO fans, they have to be 14cm. I think the LX140 might be the best, maximum amount of static pressure with the highest CFM also. Now the fans i have theorectically chosen for my build although not final decision. Do you think these would work together with Corsairs fan controller or could i just plug these into the EZBridge on daisy chain or splitter cable. Or should i get the Corsair Fan controller ?

HAF 700 Rear Exhaust
RX120

HAF 700 Exhaust/Intake
RX 140 MAX

LF3 420 AIO
LX140
 
Question here would be how much noice are you going to accept because all those fans values are at max RPM and thats different for each fan, 1600, 1700 or 2000 rpm.
If you care about noice try to look at those with highest static presure in tables bellow or try to find some review with fans you are interested in.
Problem is that rpm or noise vs static presure is not linear and is different for each fan.

If you dont care about noice, just pick one with highest static presure.

But anyway be carefull about their power there is huge variance like 0.1-1.5A for single fan, and if you put more fans on single PWM connector on your motherboard, you can breake it of even kill whole motherboard. From Godlike manual:
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I made a chart comparison of all the fans and their performance ratings if i choose a Corsair fan. Looking at these they appear to be the best ARGB fans for cooling exhaust and intake and static pressure. It's worth noting i already have Corsair ICUE and K57 RGB wireless keyboard and the dark Core Pro SE wireless mouse.

For intake and exhaust fans, they can be 14cm. I think the RX140 MAX might be the best, maximum amount of CFM and least amount of Static pressure 102 CFM. Do you guys think?

For the rear exhaust, they have to be 12cm. I think the RX120 might be the best, maximum amount of CFM and least amount of static pressure 73.5 CFM. What do you guys think ?

For AIO fans, they have to be 14cm. I think the LX140 might be the best, maximum amount of static pressure with the highest CFM also. Now the fans i have theorectically chosen for my build although not final decision. Do you think these would work together with Corsairs fan controller or could i just plug these into the EZBridge on daisy chain or splitter cable. Or should i get the Corsair Fan controller ?

HAF 700 Rear Exhaust
RX120

HAF 700 Exhaust/Intake
RX 140 MAX

LF3 420 AIO
LX140
One thing I dont understand, why not using 2x200mm and 2x120mm fans for intake/exhaust as they are already included with case?
Assuming you puttin AIO on top as exhaust, you should put already included 2x200mm as intake on front and 2x120mm on back either as intake or exhaust, depending if you want put more intake on bottom. put 3x140mm there.

Only important decision should be about fans on AIO and even that could be decided later as LC3 fans are decent and you could use them and decide later if something need to be changed.
 
One thing I dont understand, why not using 2x200mm and 2x120mm fans for intake/exhaust as they are already included with case?
Assuming you puttin AIO on top as exhaust, you should put already included 2x200mm as intake on front and 2x120mm on back either as intake or exhaust, depending if you want put more intake on bottom. put 3x140mm there.

Only important decision should be about fans on AIO and even that could be decided later as LC3 fans are decent and you could use them and decide later if something need to be changed.
Hey Rodney. I've been told on Reddit from a Coolermaster person to maybe stick with arctics AIO fans or if something goes wrong with them use Mobius fans for the AIO.

Because I was looking for the highest performance RGB fans. On paper Corsair fans look good. But people say Corsair are bad unreliable etc.. but they appear to move more CFM and static pressure. What is the truth ?

Whereas the CoolerMaster fans don't push as much CFM or static pressure. I'm only trying to find the best fans. Then you suggested Phanteks D30 or T30. I'm not looking for non ARGB fans. But their D30 appear to be really good.

Then you showed me the Tomshardware fan review which shows Corsair not performing very well. I'm not keen on any of the Lian Li uni fans. The Silverstone on that graph looks like it would be an impressive 140mm fan.

But all this information is pretty confusing. I know you say it depends on my preference for running them low speed or high if the sound doesn't distract me.

I think with all this confusion I really don't know which fans to choose. You are correct in how I want to set up the fans in my case. As follows.

I'm keeping the 2 front Sickleflow 200mm fans. But there are better performing fans over the standard ones that the HAF ships with. I would like if possible to have 3 140mm on the bottom, 3 140mm on the side, 3 140mm in the top, two 120mm better ones on the back.

I'm feeling a lot of frustration and aggravation right now trying to decide on which fans to choose. I just don't know that the Mobius are the best ones.
 
Hey Rodney. I've been told on Reddit from a Coolermaster person to maybe stick with arctics AIO fans or if something goes wrong with them use Mobius fans for the AIO.

Because I was looking for the highest performance RGB fans. On paper Corsair fans look good. But people say Corsair are bad unreliable etc.. but they appear to move more CFM and static pressure. What is the truth ?

Whereas the CoolerMaster fans don't push as much CFM or static pressure. I'm only trying to find the best fans. Then you suggested Phanteks D30 or T30. I'm not looking for non ARGB fans. But their D30 appear to be really good.

Then you showed me the Tomshardware fan review which shows Corsair not performing very well. I'm not keen on any of the Lian Li uni fans. The Silverstone on that graph looks like it would be an impressive 140mm fan.

But all this information is pretty confusing. I know you say it depends on my preference for running them low speed or high if the sound doesn't distract me.

I think with all this confusion I really don't know which fans to choose. You are correct in how I want to set up the fans in my case. As follows.

I'm keeping the 2 front Sickleflow 200mm fans. But there are better performing fans over the standard ones that the HAF ships with. I would like if possible to have 3 140mm on the bottom, 3 140mm on the side, 3 140mm in the top, two 120mm better ones on the back.

I'm feeling a lot of frustration and aggravation right now trying to decide on which fans to choose. I just don't know that the Mobius are the best ones.
Keep those 200mm fans, you could get little better but only with much higher rpm and noicier 120/140 fans.
I am using myself 2x200mm noctuas as intake on my 9000D, bigger area, lower RPM but about same CFM if want to keep noise at minimum,

Keep original fans on AIO they are decent and you can replace them later if needed.

D30 are ARGB fans, you can get them in White and Black version and as well normal and reverse.

Check review with some comparison:
 
Keep those 200mm fans, you could get little better but only with much higher rpm and noicier 120/140 fans.
I am using myself 2x200mm noctuas as intake on my 9000D, bigger area, lower RPM but about same CFM if want to keep noise at minimum,

Keep original fans on AIO they are decent and you can replace them later if needed.

D30 are ARGB fans, you can get them in White and Black version and as well normal and reverse.

Check review with some comparison:

I made up my mind and I decided to go with the CoolerMaster Mobius fans to match the CoolerMaster case.

Found out some bad news today. The computer shop can not build my computer for me. Because I've already bought some parts, they can't assure compatibility neither a warranty on parts they didn't buy or assemble.

This means I might have to try build my PC myself. But there are some features on the motherboard I aren't sure about what connects where. As you guys who have helped me this far, know more about building with this motherboard than I do.
 
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Hello guys. How do I run 4 of these ? U need one motherboard argb header for fan lights which will go into the HAF 700 case 7pwm fan hub and 5 argb controller. Then I was hoping to run 4 off another argb header. It doesn't look like it's possible. Each motherboard argb header outputs 3A. And each LED strip uses 1.14A ? So how am I going to be be able to control them in the MSI software ?https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-neon-digital-rgb-led-strip-550mm-ca-09w-pt.html
 
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Hello guys. How do I run 4 of these ? U need one motherboard argb header for fan lights which will go into the HAF 700 case 7pwm fan hub and 5 argb controller. Then I was hoping to run 4 off another argb header. It doesn't look like it's possible. Each motherboard argb header outputs 3A. And each LED strip uses 1.14A ? So how am I going to be be able to control them in the MSI software ?https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-neon-digital-rgb-led-strip-550mm-ca-09w-pt.html
You wont be able to use more than two of those on each JARGB_v2 connector and have only 3 on EZ hub and 1 on motherboard, making it total 8 strips and that only if you dont use some for fans. If you need more you need find strips that take less power and remember there is also 180 led limit per connector.
You can theoreticaly use some RGB controller/hub, I know phanteks have one, that supply additional power, but I am not sure how it is with compatibility with motherboard regarding 180 adresable limit per connector.
 
You wont be able to use more than two of those on each JARGB_v2 connector and have only 3 on EZ hub and 1 on motherboard, making it total 8 strips and that only if you dont use some for fans. If you need more you need find strips that take less power and remember there is also 180 led limit per connector.
You can theoreticaly use some RGB controller/hub, I know phanteks have one, that supply additional power, but I am not sure how it is with compatibility with motherboard regarding 180 adresable limit per connector.
Well the problem is with the SATA powered controllers in the Haf 700. Motherboard connection isn't for power but to control or link it to MSI software hopefully ?

Case has a controller with 7PWM fan connectors and 5 argb port or channels. There is a 2nd controller with 3 argb port or channels.

The boards are linked to each other apparently. I don't know if this is via a 3 pin argb but if it is that would mean I lose two argb ports or channels to connect them together.

That leaves me with 6 argb ports or channels. After finding out a limitation of how many fans I want to fit my limit is 13 fans not 16 anymore. I'll explain that bit later.

I've worked out that I can buy 3 X CoolerMaster 1-5 argb splitter cables. 13 fans with 8 LEDs each, and the last two devices can be Lian Li Strimmer cables. That totals the 15 across 3 cables.

That leaves me with 3 argb ports or channels. These Phanteks D RGB led light strips. I just can't seem to find out from CoolerMaster how many amps the ports can handle.

So I'm not sure I can install 4 led lights strips. Even if I have to put 1 led strip per port or channel I only have 3 not 4 ports or channels to work with.

UNLESS the controllers are connected via a separate lead that is separate to the argb ports or channels for devices on the board. If in fact that is the case then I would have more than 3 ports or channels for those light strips because I would gain two extra ports or channels giving me 8 which is the total amount of ports or channels across both boards.

5 argb ports or channels on the fan controller and 3 on the argb controller. If you get my meaning with all of this. Right now I'm not getting any support from CoolerMaster and have already complained on Reddit.

If CoolerMaster made it clear in their manual for the argb port channels and how many amps they can output it would make life so much easier. What if I plug in to many devices and they don't RMA because they blame me for user error.

Well why not tell us what the boards output amperage is capable of so we don't go damaging anything. Also I don't understand why it's not a legal regulation or some to tell the customers what the specifications of their products are. Especially when it comes to electronic devices dealing with power.

Back to the limitations of the amount of fans I can have. Well this is simply because I'm installing a 420mm AIO. When you do that, you lose support for 3 other fans next to the AIO.

The 420mm AIO must go over mounting holes so you basically can't install maybe two 140mm fans on each side of the top panel. You can if you install 120mm fans because you can install two 360mm radiators next to each other.

So there you go. Explained. In case someone else decides to buy Haf 700. And all the problems you don't find made clear in marketing material product sheets. Although it looks like 120mm fans in the product sheet but still it should have been printed in writing.

Because I overlooked the pictures and the size of the fans thinking I could have two 420mm radiators next to each other.

So my current dilemma is this. If I lose two argb ports and only have 3 for the rest of my lighting strips it's not enough. I need 4 led light strips in my case. Because they maybe require too much power per strip.

Well in fact the longer strip, the 550mm one uses 1.14A. Bow do Phanteks expect this led light strip to it be overpowered in any other case with limited power argb controllers ? Are their cases unique and have the power to power these.

Maybe Phanteks expect everyone to use some kind of external power supply or voltage regulator outside of the PC itself. It's weird. I like the look of the led strips. But are there any from any other brand even similar ????

I've seen Corsair do some that aren't LINK and can be used with other brands argb. But I don't know their power ratings. I need to find that out. I'm not too keen on the average looking strips like the Kolink with LEDs that aren't diffused behind a milky white rubber.

These types of strips can be in your face bright because the leds are exposed more. I know o have one in my current PC. So if anyone can find a lower powered led light strip similar to Phanteks, please let me know.
 
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Well the problem is with the SATA powered controllers in the Haf 700. Motherboard connection isn't for power but to control or link it to MSI software hopefully ?

Case has a controller with 7PWM fan connectors and 5 argb port or channels. There is a 2nd controller with 3 argb port or channels.

The boards are linked to each other apparently. I don't know if this is via a 3 pin argb but if it is that would mean I lose two argb ports or channels to connect them together.

That leaves me with 6 argb ports or channels. After finding out a limitation of how many fans I want to fit my limit is 13 fans not 16 anymore. I'll explain that bit later.

I've worked out that I can buy 3 X CoolerMaster 1-5 argb splitter cables. 13 fans with 8 LEDs each, and the last two devices can be Lian Li Strimmer cables. That totals the 15 across 3 cables.

That leaves me with 3 argb ports or channels. These Phanteks D RGB led light strips. I just can't seem to find out from CoolerMaster how many amps the ports can handle.

So I'm not sure I can install 4 led lights strips. Even if I have to put 1 led strip per port or channel I only have 3 not 4 ports or channels to work with.

UNLESS the controllers are connected via a separate lead that is separate to the argb ports or channels for devices on the board. If in fact that is the case then I would have more than 3 ports or channels for those light strips because I would gain two extra ports or channels giving me 8 which is the total amount of ports or channels across both boards.

5 argb ports or channels on the fan controller and 3 on the argb controller. If you get my meaning with all of this. Right now I'm not getting any support from CoolerMaster and have already complained on Reddit.

If CoolerMaster made it clear in their manual for the argb port channels and how many amps they can output it would make life so much easier. What if I plug in to many devices and they don't RMA because they blame me for user error.

Well why not tell us what the boards output amperage is capable of so we don't go damaging anything. Also I don't understand why it's not a legal regulation or some to tell the customers what the specifications of their products are. Especially when it comes to electronic devices dealing with power.

Back to the limitations of the amount of fans I can have. Well this is simply because I'm installing a 420mm AIO. When you do that, you lose support for 3 other fans next to the AIO.

The 420mm AIO must go over mounting holes so you basically can't install maybe two 140mm fans on each side of the top panel. You can if you install 120mm fans because you can install two 360mm radiators next to each other.

So there you go. Explained. In case someone else decides to buy Haf 700. And all the problems you don't find made clear in marketing material product sheets. Although it looks like 120mm fans in the product sheet but still it should have been printed in writing.

Because I overlooked the pictures and the size of the fans thinking I could have two 420mm radiators next to each other.
You should read tech spec sheet, usually explains what can be mounted, thats how I am doing it.
Carefull with lianli, their stuff is quite often real power hog, some fans going close to 8W per fan which is insane.
 
I didn't read the product sheet carefully enough the first time. When I saw you could fit a 420mm in the top I just assumed you could fit some same size 140mm fans next to it.

But that's not the case. However the manual does clearly mention support for two 360mm radiators or two banks of 120mm fans next to each other. At least I'm within the limit of fans (13) I can throw on to their 7 port controller.

That's good enough for me. I'm not changing the 420mm radiator for a 360mm radiator just to fit an extra 3 top exhaust fans. I'd run into capacity issues.
 
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Cooler master are still in the wrong. They don't tell the customer how many amps there argb controller ports or channels can output. That's just bad. They need to be specifying power regulations for their controller board they custom made for the case.

As customers we shouldn't be having this kind of issue. The argb should already be, say 3A per port at the very least supported then we would be fine with most argb devices X 2 off 1 port. Also cooler master state you can have 15 fans.

Really ? But then their fan pwm ports can only handle maybe 1 or 2A so really two fans per port not 3 safely. This means not 15 fans but 14... Where do they get their 15 figure from ?

And people are installing 19 fans in this case. I know that's just not possible with CoolerMaster limited capability fan controller. I bet they are bypassing the included controller and buying different ones.

There are 7 ports on the fan controller. See what I mean. Their fan and argb controller are not even built to fulfil their own marketing expectations for the case. Lies. Not practically possible with what you've given us in terms of controller support.

If your going to say how many fans or argb devices you can have you need to be clear and also write down for us in writing the output specifications and make it practically possible to do so.

I am so close to trashing CoolerMaster's controllers and buying a 3rd party brand with more fan pwm ports although I don't need them now. But at least a branded fan and argb controller hub will probably tell me the output specifications for how many devices I can run.
 
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I'm trying to contact cooler master to find out if the controller board can handle the amps required for these Phanteks led strips and whether they are overpowering or not.

I worked out I'll have 4 or 5 argb ports spare possibly if their two controllers don't need connecting via a argb lead. If it's not the case and they do need a lead, then I'll have 3 spare argb ports.

My guess is that their custom fan controller and argb controller will only cope with the Phanteks 400mm led strips which use 0.84A. I think that may be the limit of their board per channel per port. I can't see the port outputting 2 or 3A for argb devices.
 
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