new Z590 ACE Gold motherboard and RTX3090 Suprim X and frozen screen(not solved)

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I replaced my older computer with MSI Z590 ACE motherboard and RTX 3090 Suprim X GPU. Unfortunately the computer will post but freezing up everytime after a few minutes, either in bios settings or druring Windows 10 installation. Had tried everything for the last few days to fix the problem. If anyone has any idea what could have caused the problem please let me know. I really appreciate it. I have 1000 watt power supply,16 GB Corsair Dominator ram, Samsung Pro 980 ssd and I9 10900K cpu. They worked all fine on my old system. I have the lastest bios refreshed. No overclock. CPU is on water cooling and case is Fractal Design Meshify 2 XL. I did not moved Everything from my old computer and want only the basic necessary hardwares to get it going first.
 
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Please post all your components (especially PSU), and what exactly you have tried so far.
 

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My old graphic card was gtx series and long outdate. I just want to upgrade it to RTX 3090 and I thought a new MSI motherboard to go with it is better but it didn't work out well. LOL
 
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Just thought I would jump in and ask, have you connected power to the sections highlighted in purple? I don't think its needed for the PCIE at the bottom of the board - but I did mine just to alleviate any strain the PSU connectors given high FPS.

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Yes I did and I double check other power supply as well. When I first start the new build, it wouldn't even shown any display on the monitor. but after I refresh the bios the bios screen shown up but would freeze after a few minutes. That didn't give me enough time for windows 10 to install. I admit I choose the ACE Gold editon becasue or its looks, not because I think it is the best.
 
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I have noticed a pattern on these forums with folk who have a 10 series CPU and a Z590 board, this type of occurrence seems to happen with reboots and BSOD - perhaps this is a coincidence and maybe the BIOS on the board is not mature enough yet?
 

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New Intel cpu will come at the end of this year but will need another new motherboard ,otherwise I am willing to go out and buy another gerneration 11 cpu to try it out. I got my generation 10 cpu not too long ago and I don't really want to change motherboard every year. Also they seem want to change the Power Supply type as well.
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Again, please post all your components (especially PSU), and what exactly you have tried so far, for example a BIOS update.

Although in this case, i would do the BIOS update with the Flash BIOS button, the system seems too unstable to do it via M-FLASH without risk.
 

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Thanks for your reply. I really appreciate people who try to help out. I have edit my first post and add in the hardwares that I used to put this pc together. It seems that it had something to do with the bios or the bios settings,its hard to reset the bios settings when you got hung up all the times. The default settings just don't work. After many attempts and I finally able to install windows 10 and so far no hung up yet. I still have to figure out how to install all the drivers. Right now I cannot connect to the internet yet because window cannot find my network adapter and the usb stick MSI provided don't seem to have it. Thanks again to all of you who try to help out. I will post again if I have any progress to get the thing going.
 
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Can you tell me your exact PSU model?

Are you still on the original BIOS version? They fixed a lot of things in the newer BIOS versions, and most importantly, the new BIOS contains new microcode updates from Intel.
I strongly suggest updating to the latest BIOS, either using M-FLASH from the BIOS if you're brave and think it won't crash, or via the Flash BIOS Button (see manual).

Download: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-Z590-ACE-GOLD-EDITION

Extract BIOS file to USB stick, enter M-FLASH from the BIOS and select the file to update. Or Flash BIOS button method.
You can also find the drivers there (chipset, LAN, audio). Download, extract to USB, install on PC.
 
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I had the latest Bios installed. The power supply is an old
Enermax Revolution87+ 80 Plus Gold 1000W
It is seven or eight years old but it is almost brand new since I haven't used it on any build. I had many old parts laying around which I forgot about them . LOL This is more or less the ten computers I try to put together. I had bought motherboards from Evga,Asus,Asrock,Gigabyte and even intel , so far I stick with MSI for the last few years. That may change if I had bad experience this time.
 
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That power supply was released in 2011, with five years of warranty. There is no such thing as "brand new" after this amount of years. The capacitors age, wether you use them or not (of course they age faster during usage, but still).

This is what i originally anticipated, that's why i asked so much about your PSU. Many people don't give the PSU enough thought and re-use and old one "because it worked with the old system". Well, now you have components which pull previously unheard of amounts of current, almost exclusively on the 12V rail. These older PSU designs were not really made for that.

In this comment, i explained what to look for in a PSU: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/need-help-with-rebuild.365522/#post-2072488

My advice is, replace that PSU, it doesn't fit with your system due to its age. As soon as your GPU causes a way higher power draw in games, this PSU might fold.
 

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Thank You again, I take you advice seriously and go look for a new Power Supply, better yet can you suggest one for me so that I don't have to search for a good one ? I have download Intel network driver from this working pc and installed on my new pc. Everthing seems to working fine now. Four hours and no hung up and it should be ok. I don't understand why don't MSI included every drivers and software in their usb stick, those used be all come in a cd-rom. I don't know what other drivers or software I need besides the network driver for this motherboard. I will install them one at a time so as not to cause more trouble :) I also heard that the Power Supply is going to make some change soon as the new motherboard will take off part of their workload. I hope this is not going to happen soon or the PSU I going to buy now is going obsolete soon.
 

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You need the Chipset drivers, LAN drivers, serial IO drivers, and audio drivers (unless you have the onboard audio disabled). If you use the onboard audio, also update its firmware.
It's all here: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MEG-Z590-ACE-GOLD-EDITION#down-driver&Win10 64

Then for the PSU, i recommend a be quiet! Straight Power 11 or Dark Power 11/12, or a Seasonic Focus GX/PX/TX. For your high-end setup, probably 1000W is not such a bad idea.

Sometime in the future, there will be ATX12VO PSUs (12V only), and the minor rails (5V, 3.3V) will be transformed on the mainboard instead of inside the PSU. But this will take years to gain traction. As of now, there have been only proof-of-concept boards, it will take ages for this to become the norm. Plus, current PSUs already put out 12V, in fact, that's where the priority is nowadays, so that you can pull the entire rated wattage over the 12V rail. You can eventually use an ATX PSU to power an ATX12VO mainboard by simply using an adapter for the ATX cable.
 

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I find the Be quiet Straight Power 11 1000W at my local retail store. I had placed the order and going to pick it up in a few hours. Thanks for the information. They don't seem to stock the Seansonic Focus 1000watt model but other model cost as much as the motherboard itself :)














 
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I find the Be quiet Straight Power 11 1000W at my local retail store. I had placed the order and going to pick it up in a few hours. Thanks for the information. They don't seem to stock the Seansonic Focus 1000watt model but other model cost as much as the motherboard itself :)














Good choice, I was also going to recommends the Seasonic TX Prime which I have - very good PSU.
 

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This working pc is also using 4 years old Seasonic Prime 1000W older model. I could not find any Seasonic 1000W in the local store so I end up changing my mind and pick up a Bequiet Dark Power 12 1000W instead. It has a ten years warrant 80 plus Titanium. Hopefully it will work out better for my new build. This new build is also a custom water cooling setup. It is going to take a lot of work to repalce the power supply, wish me luck :)
 
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Can you make a photo or two of your system when it's done? Curious as to how it looks, it's a really nice system from the components alone.
 

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I sure will try, I have been doing water cooling with an external water chiller for a long time but this time I only use a radiator, I don't want to void the warranty of the expensive RTX 3090( I paid extra on top of list price). I will take my time so as not to stress out. I hate to say this, the money I spend on this new build is enough to buy the best pc from Allenware, thats what my freind said anyway and he thinks that I am stupid LOL. By the way I also heard that MSI has a new ssd coming out that is better the Samsung Pro 980, is that true ?
 

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