P55-CD53 - Prime Crashes on Blend Test

[ekan76]

Hi.

3 different errors:

1: "A disk read error occurred Press Ctrl + Alt + Del to restart"

2: Random freeze when using the pc

3: Random reboots from dekstop running

I believe have the same problem, after installing my new motherboard P55-CD53 and Intel i5 CPU.

Have at least one crash a hour or random freeze(2), corrupted files and random applications(1) that crashes with Windows.
Then the computer freezes(2) I never got the BSOD, only a black screen or sometimes a black screen and a blinking cursor at the top left corner. 

Here is my CPU-Z if needed.

Prime95 Small FFT - worked fine!

But then running the Blend test, the screen goes black and hangs or sometime just restarts after 10 to 30 seconds.

It felt that the errors became less often after your recommended changes:

Please set the Command Rate to 2T in BIOS, then raise the memory voltage to 1.575V and retest.

But before I did the changes I ran MemTest86+ without it showing any errors.

Then applications crashes it gives me a Error Reporting Dialog, similar to this, but with other radom exe files that I am running:

What are you thoughts or cues about my problem?

My specs:
Windows XP, SP3
MSI P55-CD53, P55, Socket-1156, DDR3 (BIOS updated to 1.2)
Intel Core i5 Quad Processor i5-750
Crucial DDR3 1333MHz 4GB KIT, CL9
Quadro FX 1400, 128MB (Drv. 191.00) (will soon be replaced with ASUS GTX 275  )
Seagate Barracuda SATA2 500GB 7200.12
Seagate Barracuda SATA2 250GB
Seagate Barracuda SATA 160GB
Samsung HD502IJ SATA 500GB
PLextor DVDR PX-708A 40x /8x
Chieftec Powersupply 650W
Hercules Prophetview 920 DVI 19"

 

[Jack the Newbie]

Hi,

can you please run Memtest86+ with your current settings to have a seperate look at your RAM?

Is your system overclocked in any Way?

 

[NovJoe]

I second to Jack's advice. Try testing your RAMs individually and see if the system runs fine.

 

[ekan76]

can you please run Memtest86+ with your current settings to have a seperate look at your RAM?
Is your system overclocked in any Way?

I ran Memtest86+ for 7.5 hours today without any errors with current settings
I have not touch the overclocked setting, I believe that I use the factory setting (Loaded Optimal setting in BIOS)

I second to Jack's advice. Try testing your RAMs individually and see if the system runs fine.

I can try to test the system with only one RAM and run the test Blend in Prime95, Thank NovJoe.

 

[NovJoe]

No worries. Try the settings out and feedback on any results .

 

[Mark]

Crucial RAM can be very odd.

First of all set it up in the BIOS exactly to Crucial's specs, including the voltage. Leave the command rate at 2T as 1T doesn't make much of a difference on Intel systems anyway.

Next time your system freezes, restart and run MemTest straight away.

How are the system and CPU temps?

 

[ekan76]

Yesterdays tests:

1. Tested Prime95(Blend test) several time, twice it gave me some results in results.txt:
[Fri Oct 02 23:51:35 2009]
Compare your results to other computers at http://www.mersenne.org/report_benchmarks
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU         750  @ 2.67GHz
CPU speed: 2672.98 MHz, 4 cores
CPU features: RDTSC, CMOV, Prefetch, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE4
L1 cache size: 32 KB
L2 cache size: 256 KB, L3 cache size: 8 MB
L1 cache line size: 64 bytes
L2 cache line size: 64 bytes
TLBS: 64
Prime95 32-bit version 25.11, RdtscTiming=1
Best time for 768K FFT length: 13.530 ms.
Best time for 896K FFT length: 16.533 ms.
Best time for 1024K FFT length: 18.795 ms.
Best time for 1280K FFT length: 23.447 ms.
Best time for 1536K FFT length: 28.043 ms.
Best time for 1792K FFT length: 34.244 ms.
Best time for 2048K FFT length: 38.732 ms.
Best time for 2560K FFT length: 51.353 ms.
Best time for 3072K FFT length: 62.221 ms.
Best time for 3584K FFT length: 75.986 ms.
[Sat Oct 03 23:32:09 2009]
FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was -2.8182510993286e+109, expected: 6.788200618070058e+016
FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was 1.643792469233867e+209, expected: 6.788200618070058e+016
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.49609375, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
FATAL ERROR: Resulting sum was 3.120000212887394e+016, expected: 2.172861899473606e+016
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.
FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.4921875, expected less than 0.4
Hardware failure detected, consult stress.txt file.


Sadly there is no stress.txt file to look at.
Does the above prints give anything to you guys?

Temps:
CPU 51-56 Cesius


Tested today: with Prime95(Blend test)

1. Both RAM1 and RAM2 in place - Fail!
2. RAM1 in DIMM1 slot - Pass
3. RAM2 in DIMM3 slot - Did not even start
4. RAM2 in DIMM1 slot - Pass
5. RAM2 in DIMM1 and RAM1 in DIMM3 - Fail!

Can it be some thing with my Windows XP only being a 32bit version and the addressing of maximum 3GB.

[quote author=blazing storm]
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First of all set it up in the BIOS exactly to Crucial's specs, including the voltage. ..
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I didn't know where to find the specs for the Crucial memory. Where should I look?

Thank again guys, I hope my tests are giving you something work from.

If I still have my job left tomorrow, I will do some more test.
Maybe there are other applications that that I can run that can revel more of my problems! Suggestions?

 

[Mark]

I'm wondering if the RAM is compatible with your motherboard? Any chance you can test some other RAM in your board?

I didn't know where to find the specs for the Crucial memory. Where should I look?

The recommended timings and voltage are usually shown on the label on the RAM sticks although it does also give them in CPU-Z.

Try running with just one memory stick in and see if you still get the same problem using Prime95.

 

[Mark]

I also wonder if your CPU settings are correct. In my experience, freezes are usually either a heat issue or the CPU settings are wrong. Can you post a CPU-Z shot of the CPU tab whilst running the CPU @ 100% load?

Is the CPU temp 51-56C under full load?

There could be a number of things causing your issues but it's hard to guess the cause; hence taking things step by step.

In your shoes I'd be looking through each page of the BIOS checking everything is set correctly and the CPU and RAM are running at the specs the manufacturer advises; this includes voltages.

EDIT: One other thought has occured to me. Try running the RAM at 533mhz (1066) 7-7-7-20 2T 1.5v. Your RAM may simply not be able to run at the faster 667mhz (1333) speed.

 

[friskies]

Isn`t the intel turbo function enabled by default? Try disabling it? And the stock cooler isn`t very good i have heard

 

[cagalp]

Hi,
I'm a noob but i had same problems. It was because of the hdd. I dont know if this is related to your problem though

When i tried (or a program like emule or untivirus program working behind tried) to change, access or delete a file from the corrupt part of the hard disk, the pc freezed and restarted, or windows gave an error. There were folders i couldnt delete and files i couldnt open.

i hope this is related  cause i guess a bad hdd is better then incompability and cpu or ram related problems 

 

[steinom]

PC freece when DRAM Voltage is to low and all slot is used, try to icrease the RAM Voltage from default 1.5 V to at least 1.62 V or up to 1.65 V.
My PC with 4 x 2 GB run fine on 1.62 V
Had same problem as described here.
This motherboard is also sencetive on what slot RAM is put into if les than all slot is used.
The outermost on motherboard is no. 1 so if two slot is used you shll use no. 1 and 3, if three slot is used you shall use no. 1, 2 and 3.
Hope this help 

 

[steinom]

Hi cagalp,

Backup data from your WD160 disk when you can and "dump it".
It is problem with many WD160 including on I have on my desk now. When it start like you decribs it will be more bad day by day. It's a well knowen case that WD160 disk is a problem disk series. Other WD disk is normally working weary well. Samsung disk is a good disk to replace you WD1160. Newer had problem with Samsung disk.
BR, steinom 

 

[cagalp]

Hi steinom,

it was a seagate which had the problems, i gave it back and took a wd instead WD had no problems so far. Thanks for the advice anyways

 

[00se7en]

PC freece when DRAM Voltage is to low and all slot is used, try to icrease the RAM Voltage from default 1.5 V to at least 1.62 V or up to 1.65 V.
My PC with 4 x 2 GB run fine on 1.62 V
Had same problem as described here.
This motherboard is also sencetive on what slot RAM is put into if les than all slot is used.
The outermost on motherboard is no. 1 so if two slot is used you shll use no. 1 and 3, if three slot is used you shall use no. 1, 2 and 3.
Hope this help 

I second this.  Have the same Crucial RAM kit, but two of them for total of 8Gb with all slots occupied.  Even with just one 2Gb DIMM installed I could not even install Windows 7 without it crashing.

I upped the RAM voltage to 1.55V and managed to install Windows, but Intel CPUBurn would fail.  Increased RAM voltage to 1.65V and all is fine.  Prime95 does still crash out on some cores, but only after over an hour and it doesn't take the whole system down (I just get the 0.4 vs 0.5 rounding error).  Haven't had a single crash or reboot in Windows, so I'm happy.  Might try swapping DIMMs around one at a time to check it's not just one bad stick.  Hoping subsequent BIOS updates do something for memory stability on this board.  Apparently Gigabyte P55 boards don't get on with the Crucial RAM kits at all.

Been buying Crucial RAM for years and never had such problems.  Bought it off the strength of the Toms Hardware review for cheap Core i7 kits.  Know many DDR3 kits are 1.8V for the old P45 or AMD Phenom II chipsets.  Went Corsair DDR2 for my last build and did have some issues, so went back to Crucial this time.  Typical!

I also found that MemTest86+ gave no errors, even at 1.5V when Windows would not install.  I no longer trust it for the purpose of stability testing.

My board is the MSI GD65.  I tried turning off all the power saving and phase-switching aspects of the board to no avail, so think this one is RAM related.

 

[ekan76]

(Long time with no response, I just had my first baby daughter born! )

Hi all, and thank for all the good suggestions in this thread

Status:
I'm now running my Crucial RAM at 1.672V, CR = 1T,  which seamed to make the system much more stable.
Although I still get some corrupt file or Check Sum Error time to time. Even after downloads from big reliable sites like cnet.com or nzone.com

Q:
What I still no not understand is why the timing tables does not match with the ones in CPU-Z, see current settings:

and "suggested"?? timing tables

and

They just no not match, or are I just not understanding the settings!?

Attempts:
I tried to set the settings as shown in ControlCenter for 667Mhz in BIOS, but with that change the computer did not start and resetted it self with the latest working BIOS setting.
Also I could not find any timing tables on Crusial web page! Strange!?

A: NovJoe , I have tested single RAM with no luck: See quote below:

...
1. Both RAM1 and RAM2 in place - Fail!
2. RAM1 in DIMM1 slot - Pass
3. RAM2 in DIMM3 slot - Did not even start
4. RAM2 in DIMM1 slot - Pass
5. RAM2 in DIMM1 and RAM1 in DIMM3 - Fail!
...

Isn`t the intel turbo function enabled by default? Try disabling it? And the stock cooler isn`t very good i have heard

friskies: I will try out disable the turbo function.

I also wonder if your CPU settings are correct. In my experience, freezes are usually either a heat issue or the CPU settings are wrong. Can you post a CPU-Z shot of the CPU tab whilst running the CPU @ 100% load?

Is the CPU temp 51-56C under full load?
EDIT: ekan76 After 7.5h is was 66C!, although did get the freeze at the low temp as 42C.

There could be a number of things causing your issues but it's hard to guess the cause; hence taking things step by step.

In your shoes I'd be looking through each page of the BIOS checking everything is set correctly and the CPU and RAM are running at the specs the manufacturer advises; this includes voltages.

One other thought has occurred to me. Try running the RAM at 533mhz (1066) 7-7-7-20 2T 1.5v. Your RAM may simply not be able to run at the faster 667mhz (1333) speed.
EDIT: ekan76 Will try out this, as well. If they work in the lower speed, can I reclaim to have them replaced by manufacturer?

Q: Any one who has an idea anyone how a should run there Crusial RAM? (Crucial DDR3 1333MHz PC3-10700H 4GB KIT, CL9, Prod. nr 363359)