P67A-C45 CPU power connection

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I have a P67A-C45, an Intel i5 2500k and a Zalman ZM600-HP PSU. The PSU has a split 4+4 pin connector to supply CPU power, the board has an 8 pin socket, however the pattern of square and half round plugs on one half of the PSU's 4+4 pin connector does not match the pattern in the receiving socket.
Do I need an adapter, should I just use the half that fits, or should I connect both halves anyway? (The PSU side has all half rounded plugs, which will fit in the socket despite being a different shape.)
 
According to the manual for your PSU, there should be two 2x4-CPU power connectors [CPU 1 Power Connector [not modular] & CPU 2 Power Connector [modular/removeable].  Do you have the same problem with both of them?
 
Yes. The pattern of plug shapes at the motherboard end is the same on both sets.
http://www.zalman.com/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=196
Halfway down this page is a picture of the connectors, pci-e, sata, cpu and molex. Note on the cpu connector one set of 4 (on the right) has all half rounded plugs. The socket on the motherboard has the same pattern of diagonally opposed square and half round holes as seen on the other half of the connector.
Also, quoting from that page, "Supports ATX12V CPU 4-Pin and EPS12V CPU 8-Pin - Two ATX12V CPU 2x2 (4-Pin) power cables can be combined to form an EPS12V CPU 8-Pin power cable."
It just seems odd that the plug and socket don't match. I was under the impression that these connections were foolproof, I didn't want top be the one to prove that wrong.
 
It just seems odd that the plug and socket don't match. I was under the impression that these connections were foolproof

Well, they should be foolproof, but unfortunately, they are not.  This is what an an EPS12V CPU 8-Pin power plug usually looks like:

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#eps8

eps.jpg


The site I linked you to gives an overview of pretty much all common PSU power connectors and now look at the pictures and and his comment when it comes to 4+4 connectors that are supposed to combine to an  EPS12V CPU 8-Pin power plug:

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#eps4plus4

eps4plus4.jpg


Now the comment:

If you look carefully at the image above then you can see the polarization of the pins which prevents you from plugging the cable in improperly. Some of the pins are square and some of them have rounded off corners. The motherboard connectors have matching square and rounded off corners to prevent the cable from being plugged in the wrong way. But if you look really carefully at the right half of this particular cable and then look at the 8 pin 12 volt cable pictured above you'll notice that they don't match. A regular 8 pin cable has four square pins and four rounded ones but the 4+4 cable shown above has two square pins and 6 rounded ones. The left half of the 4+4 matches the left half of an 8 pin cable but the right half is different. Hmmmm... And this isn't some bizarre cable either. I've seen plenty of 4+4s which look like this one. And then there are other 4+4 cables which look just like an 8 pin cable split in two (which makes sense). Since rounded pins fit into square holes in motherboard connectors, this particular cable will fit just fine into an 8 pin 12 volt motherboard connector. But both halves of this 4+4 will fit into a 4 pin 12 volt motherboard connector. You're supposed to use the left half of the cable shown above when plugging it into a 4 pin motherboard connector but the right half will also fit. As it happens, either half will work fine in a 4 pin motherboard because both halves of the 4+4 just provide 12 volts. The pinouts are the same for both halves so either one will work. I'm not sure why they make cables like this one because you'd figure a 4+4 cable would just be an 8 pin cable which splits in two. And you only need one half of a 4+4 cable to plug into a 4 pin motherboard. The other half is unused. But the kind of 4+4 cable shown above is pretty common so don't let it throw you.

It seems some PSU manufacturers have not thought this thing through.  You particular PSU is by far not the only one.
 
so does that mean I should plug both halves in?

If they fit: do it, if they don't fit: don't (or use enough force to squeeze them in, as long as the pin definition (12V & GND) is right, there is no chance for electrical damage))
 
It seems from the pinout and wire colours shown here http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html#eps8 along with his comment that its pretty common and not to "let it throw you", it shouldnt be a problem. Still, Im going to feel pretty nervous pressing the on switch for the first time :/
Thanks for your help.
 
Still, Im going to feel pretty nervous pressing the on switch for the first time :/

So, did you squeeze it in there or not?

Again, as long as the +12V-pins (yellow wires) and the GND pins (black wires) meet the connector where they are supposed to be connected to it, there will be no electrical damage (impossible, as long as the PSU is not defective or wrongly wired).

On the other hand:  Using just half of the mainboard's connector (1x4 instead of 2x4 pins) is not a problem either.
 
Ha, Im having some breakfast and thinking about it, probably too much lol.
Theres no squeezing necessary, because all the pins on the lead are half round it would fit whatever the pattern on the socket, its only square pegs that wont go in round holes.
On the other hand:  Using just half of the mainboard's connector (1x4 instead of 2x4 pins) is not a problem either.
I might start it up like this to begin with, just for my own peace of mind.
 
Theres no squeezing necessary, because all the pins on the lead are half round it would fit whatever the pattern on the socket, its only square pegs that wont go in round holes.

Well, then there is neither a chance of electrical nor mechanical damage.

I might start it up like this to begin with, just for my own peace of mind.

Knock yourself out.  ;D
 
So, I plugged them both in, powered up and all was well. This new BIOS thing is weird, but at least I see it :D
Thanks again for the help Jack.
 
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