Pro Z690-A DDR4 Wifi Bios Freezing after updating to beta bios

gerardfraser

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That is the old notion of "never change a running system", which i disagree with nowadays. New BIOS updates are relevant for optimal performance since they bring new microcode, also they fix some important things, most of which doesn't even appear in the changelogs. When you see a complete changelog, like you can sometimes find for a beta BIOS from unofficial sources, you will rub your eyes how much is changed behind the scenes. I commented about it here, https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...-windows-10-update.360984/page-2#post-2049297
Expand the changelog there to see an example. Those 47 lines became 5 lines in the changelog on the website. Nowadays it's often just one or two lines.

On my Z590, they really improved the performance in some circumstances with the newer microcode. The original BIOS was from a rushed release date and they had a lot of room for optimization.
On Z690 it seems much the same, and this time, there are lots of known bugs to be fixed, like standby bugs, RAM problems and so on. It would be foolish to stay on an older BIOS there because it runs halfway decent. As i said, you can't go by the changelog either, they improve/fix so many other things behind the scenes that never makes it into the changelogs. Some of it may not affect you, some of it can save you lots of trouble down the road, or even improve some performance aspect.
You can disagree all day,will not change my mind on how I do things.You maybe should read what I posted in this thread.Please no need to respond,you will be on ignore from me because I have read way to many of your post in these threads.

Lets see my post#4- I used all available BIOS up to that date.Listed problems I had. You can also add the newest BIOS
These BIOS are OK No Freeze when making changes in BIOS
E7D25IMS.100
E7D25IMS.113
E7D25IMS.114

These BIOS Freeze when making changes in BIOS
E7D25IMS.110
E7D25IMS.115
E7D25IMS.115U3
E7D25IMS.116

My Post Post #7
Just from my own testing on two 12900K.
12900K Batch# V1351636
12900K Batch# V1361515

My post #19
If you do not have problems,then there is no need to update the BIOS. I have no fear on missing out on any BIOS update,when my PC works 100% as for my use case.

My Post#12
Well for me personally. I try all BIOS for fun but I will be using release BIOS most likely E7D25IMS.100 for it has worked fine without problems for me on different 12900K CPU's.
I just need a BIOS to work without crashing and I am good.
 

citay

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I never said you should update to all beta BIOS versions. I was talking about official BIOS updates in general. They are often quite useful to fix/prevent problems and to improve performance.

Looks like i'm on ignore for that now... that's a first, but hey, you do you 😄
 

Gorbishganoid

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Ugh so bad news. It seems like the bios from 12/13/21 is still freezing up. Anyone else having this?
 

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i have not tried that beta bios yet, is it safe to do so it is it better to ride it out?
If you mean which is safer, beta or MP, i'd say there are not much differences (unless there's major change such as microcode). However, flashing BIOS is always risky so make sure the system is running stable during M-Flash and it should be fine. By the way, since Z690-A PRO comes with flash bios button, you should be able to recover BIOS even it goes south.
Also by ODD you mean like a disc drive? No, only sata devices I have are a couple of SSDs, why do you ask?
iirc, there are old problems that some ODD causes mflash fail or bios freeze, cant remember on which platform.
 
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Hi everyone, piggybacking here since I'm having a somewhat similar issue. E7D25IMS.A10 is what is posted on the https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z690-A-WIFI/support#down-bios site...I'm currently running what the board came with which is 7D25vA0 . Nomatter what I do...with different flash drives it never will detect the file to use when in the Bios Flash mode as an option to select. I've now tried using the Bios Flash button on the MoBo directly (renaming file, etc...) it briefly flashes and then does nothing...with the Bios flash light going solid red...and staying red. It allows me to reboot the device but the bios flash light stays red. No idea what to do here...
 
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Additionally, I tried using this MSI Live Update...did they stop developing this product? Seems useless and doesn't give me the option to scan for BIOS
 
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So, the Flash Bios light is still stuck on after having tried to run the improper update previously...I successfully ran the update though using that correct one you suggested. Thoughts on if I should just touch the flash button again to deactivate it or something?
 
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Worked like a charm, thanks! So is this MSI Live Update worth loading? It didn't seem useful at all and just as bloatware suggestions honestly.
 

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Nah, i never use the Live Update or MSI Center etc. Just get the drivers from the MSI site or from the manufacturer directly, and keep checking for BIOS updates every once in a while and maybe watch the forums about them.

I do it like this: Install Intel Chipset drivers first, then Management Engine and Serial I/O, audio drivers if you use onboard audio (get all these from the MSI page for your board under Drivers).
The rest of the drivers straight from Intel:

Intel Graphics (if you use it): https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19344/intel-graphics-windows-dch-drivers.html
Intel LAN: https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...el-network-adapter-driver-for-windows-10.html (Wired driver x64)
Intel Wi-Fi/WLAN: https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...i-fi-drivers-for-intel-wireless-adapters.html (Driver64)
Intel Bluetooth: https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-bluetooth-for-windows-10-and-windows-11.html
 

Gorbishganoid

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I stated this issue in another post. The work around is to not use the mouse. Only use the keyboard while in BIOS settings
Thanks so much, this workaround is perfect! How did you find this out, and could you link me to that other thread if it's relevant to what I'm dealing with?
 
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