Question re RTX 4090 power connector

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Hi, I'm wondering if this power connector/adapter will ship with MSI cards so I can use my non ATX 3.0 power supply. Also, when will we find out about the power draw for MSI RTX 4090?

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Hi, I'm wondering if this power connector/adapter will ship with MSI cards so I can use my non ATX 3.0 power supply. Also, when will we find out about the power draw for MSI RTX 4090?

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yes it does as its likely 99% of people will not have a ATX 3.0 PSU.

what PSU do you have as that will be a very High Power Draw card?
 

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yes it does as its likely 99% of people will not have a ATX 3.0 PSU.

what PSU do you have as that will be a very High Power Draw card?
Hi. Thanks for your quick reply. I've got a Corsair HXi1000 power supply. I really don't want to buy a new one. Lol
 

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Hi. Thanks for your quick reply. I've got a Corsair HXi1000 power supply. I really don't want to buy a new one. Lol
that has all its power on its +12V Rail so should be ok.
 

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that has all its power on its +12V Rail so should be ok.
That's good. I appreciate it. If/when I get a 4090 and have any issues, I'll post back in this thread I guess.

Again, thank you very much for your help. Have a great rest of your day!
 

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I'm pretty sure the 4090 is capable of drawing at least 600W considering the 4 PCIe cables required. It will depend on the model of card, but the more demanding AAA games may have issues with the 1000W PSU depending on how many other devices are drawing power in your setup. Just speculating here, but don't be surprised if 1000W PSU is not enough for every scenario. I'm assuming you are running a 4K monitor setup as the 4090 is really unnecessary otherwise.
 

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I'm pretty sure the 4090 is capable of drawing at least 600W considering the 4 PCIe cables required. It will depend on the model of card, but the more demanding AAA games may have issues with the 1000W PSU depending on how many other devices are drawing power in your setup. Just speculating here, but don't be surprised if 1000W PSU is not enough for every scenario. I'm assuming you are running a 4K monitor setup as the 4090 is really unnecessary otherwise.
I'm running at 2K ATM. For sure a 4090 is way overkill in my case. I'm thinking (justifying the cost really) future proofing. Hehe.

Last question then. Do you know when retailers will be selling the 4080? Particularly the 16 gig variant. The retailer I use here only shows the 4090
 

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I don't know for sure, but several retailers at least have an auto-notify email feature for several products like GPUs. Personally I like to use NewEgg as they usually have immediate stock upon release and have the email feature as well already for a lot of 40x series GPUs. I got my MSI 3090 Ti Suprim X back in August from NewEgg for a great price doing this. Not sure what the retailers you use are, or are nearby at least, but do some research at reputable sites and see what's out there at the moment. It looks like NVIDIA is set to release the 4080 16GB in November sometime so the 3rd party versions should be sometime after that, most likely by the end of the year at least, probably sooner for the holiday season.
 

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Given what info you've provided. I think it makes more sense, in my case, to wait for the 4080. A 4090 would be reply nice. But I'm going to stick with my 2K monitor for hopefully, quite a while.

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Glad to help. Probably a good idea to go for the 4080 if you are staying at 2K. The 3090 ti I have now is already overkill for most games games I own except CyberPunk 2077 which I can barely get 50-60 fps if maxed out on high or ultra 4K settings. If you have a high refresh rate gaming monitor like I do take that into consideration as well. It takes a lot more GPU power to sustain those refresh rates than a traditional monitor. Also, if you plan on playing games that use a lot or all of the RTX features such as ray tracing you may still want to consider the 4090 based on what the price difference ends up being and what is actually available to purchase.
 

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At 2K, all maxed, full rt, I get about the same fps as yet get @4K. That's with dlss on quality as well. I use balanced to avoid big fps dips.
I do have a good Asus monitor. 165Hz refresh. Gsync as well. I also stream to my 4K tv via shield tv. In game I set 1440p and It upscales to 4K really nicely.
None of these cards are out yet so I've got plenty of time to think about it
 

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I question regarding the Suprim Liquid X. Can I change out the fans on the radiator to another manufacturer? I have some corsair ML fans I really would want use.
 

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Yeah, just the rad with two Corsair 140ml fans. I'm sure a mod will jump in and answer soon enough.
 

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Nah, no mods around.
Fans are standard 120mm, and I see no reason why they shouldn't be user replacable. That would make the "suprim" product rather "shitto".
Only thing is that these fans may use their very own and special connector.
 

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yes they will be normal Fans but they will have a Mini Fan Connector on them like the last 2 Generations of the MSI Water cooled cards so unless you know how to either Splice cables onto the old wiring that will Void the Warranty or have tools to De-pin the the original ones to reuse the connectors you may be in trouble unless you can find a replacement connector for the GPU's PCB end and Make an adapter Connector to go to 2 female normal 3 or 4 pin headers your stuck with the original ones.
 

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yes they will be normal Fans but they will have a Mini Fan Connector on them like the last 2 Generations of the MSI Water cooled cards so unless you know how to either Splice cables onto the old wiring that will Void the Warranty or have tools to De-pin the the original ones to reuse the connectors you may be in trouble unless you can find a replacement connector for the GPU's PCB end and Make an adapter Connector to go to 2 female normal 3 or 4 pin headers your stuck with the original ones.
Thank you for clearing this up. I was only considering this model as I've got max 300mm clearance (includes front mounted fans/rad) for a GPU. Unfortunately, it seems most manufactures that have info available, have cards with lengths starting at 331mm and up. And tbh, I would worry about the pump failing daily. I hunted for the fans I have as they weren't readily available and I payed more than I should. lol. I gotta stick with them. I've been avoiding it for quite a few years now, but it looks like I'll be needing a new case.

Thanks for your help
 
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