Radeon Software fan profile speed issues

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Hi. A while ago, I posted this thread here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/gpu-fan-speed-below-30.374331/#post-2128661

This is on a slightly different topic. I can't get morepowertools to work with my card, so I just have to use the Radeon Software. I've actually come to a point of appreciating that I can set different profiles for different games and the desktop. However, until yesterday, I only played one steam game. My aim was to try and get the same fan curve for desktop and game use, but just have zero RPM enabled when I'm out of games as the GPU junction never goes above 50 degrees here. But randomly, it would keep the games saved profile and I would have to set the global settings to zero RPM and save it again. Since I've set yet another different profile for another game, it seems whatever game I play then causes the global profile to be the same as that.

I always want the GPU fans to be off (or well below 30% as I said in the other thread) when not in games. I am constantly saving and backing up new profiles, but they fail to stay the same (but the games do).

Am I missing something? Is there another profile fan curve i can set for everything apart from specific games? Surely that is what the global one is which seems very glitchy.

I'm rather disappointed by how this is so hard to archive in windows compared to Ubuntu. I thought windows was more supportive of overclocking GPUs. In windows I randomly seem to have to do manual tweaks as I've described if I want the fans to stop making a racket after I've been on a game where as on Ubuntu, I set a fan curve to what I wanted and haven't needed to open the program once for a month or two.

I'm hoping it is just a simple problem regarding how I save the profiles, but I can't work it out.
 
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Clear all Profiles in AMD and just use a global one

While the Hardware is way good the software is a bit lacking.

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If I do this, won't i then lose my option to have 0 RPM below 50 degrees on both - or I must have my fans running all the time?

Both games at times have simple scenes and the fans go crazy on/off on/off due the the temperature fluctuating around 50 degrees. So in this case, that is why I must have zero RPM disabled in all games. If I have it zero RPM disabled for everything though, then i can never at any point have what I consider a quiet PC on desktop use, which is exactly why I spent a lot of money on my case, CPU cooler and case fans. That is unless I finally get something in windows that lets me get the fan speed down to 9% which Ubuntu lets me.

I will maybe try doing a factory reset and hopefully that will delete all the saved fan curves. If I start again, hopefully I can get them working. The two seperate game profiles both work perfectly, but randomly make the global profile the same as one of them (and disables zero RPM).
 
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Well, after doing the reset, I've attempted setting the global profile, as well as the 2 games and it does seem that when i leave them, the fans do switch back to the global profile. But how long I can trust it being stable, I'm not sure. The reset likely has helped due to the quantity of times I've saved and overlapped things.
 
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thegianthogweed9160a02f2 said:
If I do this, won't i then lose my option to have 0 RPM below 50 degrees on both - or I must have my fans running all the time?

Both games at times have simple scenes and the fans go crazy on/off on/off due the the temperature fluctuating around 50 degrees. So in this case, that is why I must have zero RPM disabled in all games. If I have it zero RPM disabled for everything though, then i can never at any point have what I consider a quiet PC on desktop use, which is exactly why I spent a lot of money on my case, CPU cooler and case fans. That is unless I finally get something in windows that lets me get the fan speed down to 9% which Ubuntu lets me.

I will maybe try doing a factory reset and hopefully that will delete all the saved fan curves. If I start again, hopefully I can get them working. The two seperate game profiles both work perfectly, but randomly make the global profile the same as one of them (and disables zero RPM).
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I just use a global OC setting for all and have Zero RPM enabled.

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thegianthogweed9160a02f2 said:
Well, after doing the reset, I've attempted setting the global profile, as well as the 2 games and it does seem that when i leave them, the fans do switch back to the global profile. But how long I can trust it being stable, I'm not sure. The reset likely has helped due to the quantity of times I've saved and overlapped things.
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Yep that is a the problem hardware is real good but AMD software could do with more stability work. I find I have to reenable my Profile from time to time due to wattman reset and some times it is good till I do a Driver update and Profile no longer works.
A CPU OC crash can also cause a Wattman Reset.
It can be a tad annoying but only takes me about 2 minuets to set it back up.

But I also have More power tools set for Higher Clock, more power and lower Fan speed of 15% instead of 20%
 
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Well, as I thought, it didn't stay without glitches. My computer booted into windows this morning and once the AMD program atomaticlaly launched, the fans instantly were on 48% and the same profile I have for my new game despite it saying it was on global. I have it set at 48% because the fans seem to resonate somewhat at 50%. So in this game, I just want them to be at the same speed the whole time. So I've set it to that from 35 degrees to 95 (for the junction temperature). I will easily be able to hear once it goes faster and it never seems to, even on my other game.

However, the problem is that if I have 0 rpm enabled in the games, every time i go to the menu or simple scenes, as you can imagine, the fans going from off to 48% is very annoying. Due to how sensitive I am, I much prefer consistensy in the sound, even if it is loud. This is the main reason I've set it to be much faster than it needs to be even at low temperatures in games as if it stays sounding the same, I've learned to filter it out.

30% is the lowest that the Radeon software lets you go by default. when out of games, that is still loud enough to notice over my high speed case fans. And when I put them on low speed, it just sounds like the card is still hard at work. I have to say that my previous GPU (nvidia GTX1650) was inaudible at 34% which was the lowest I could manually set it to in Ubuntu. I'm guessing this card has much much higher RPM or something as 30% is still pretty loud and under 50% is still easily enough to keep the temperature cool enough while gaming.

If I could find a way to turn my fan speed down to 9% (which is the minimum i can set it to in Ubuntu), then I wouldn't need 0 RPM enabled. Morepowertools looks ideal, but my PC still claims that it's not supported after I follow your installation steps.

For now, I'm still having to manually enable 0 RPM most times I leave the games.
 
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Alan J T said:
Yep that is a the problem hardware is real good but AMD software could do with more stability work. I find I have to reenable my Profile from time to time due to wattman reset and some times it is good till I do a Driver update and Profile no longer works.
A CPU OC crash can also cause a Wattman Reset.
It can be a tad annoying but only takes me about 2 minuets to set it back up.

But I also have More power tools set for Higher Clock, more power and lower Fan speed of 15% instead of 20%
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Could you please help me with this morepowertool app?
I wanted to set the minimum fan speed lower but when i do and write sppt the pc gives black screen when restarting and i have to delete sppt, i really want this to work because my gpu lowest speed is 2200rpm which is extremly loud
 
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