Raptor Lake Settings Survey and Spreadsheet "Database"

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Welcome to the Raptor Lake Settings Survey and Spreadsheet "Database"

While no two systems (or CPUs) are the same, it is my hope that you will find this centralized information useful when comparing your own specific setup to those who have the same CPU - and maybe similar hardware. In addition to this objective, I have also provided an opportunity for Raptor Lake owners to periodically submit additional entries to the survey database when anything changes. If degradation becomes more of a widespread issue than originally anticipated then these periodic "field reports" should allow us to see these trends as they unfold.

Instructions for Survey Submissions
Once you're satisfied with your system's stability and performance, please follow the instructions below to prepare for your first submission to the survey database.

Please download the attached Survey Guide.pdf. This guide has been designed to give each survey respondent a chance to gather all the relevant information ahead of time. This is an important step. The last two pages of the guide describes how you can make immediate use of the survey results, either before or after you complete your online entry.

In addition to the many questions in the survey, you will find a section (Section 2) that asks for performance related data. I have selected Cinebench R23 for this purpose. However, Cinebench R23 is only one small snapshot of performance and I realize will not necessarily be indicative of gaming performance, etc. In fact, as our recent testing has demonstrated, some "undervolting approaches" are much better suited to all-core CPU workloads (like Cinebench R23) than those favoring lighter, non all-core workloads, such as gaming.

[1] Use this link to access the Online Survey
NOTE: Survey Responses cannot be edited once they are submitted. However, I can still assist you in making changes (see note below). Survey Responses can also be deleted (by me) if you wish.
:stop: Please don’t forget to enter your Forum name (if you’re a member) to help others link you to your settings. But for privacy reasons, please don’t use your real name or email address, etc.

[2] Use this link to access the Online Spreadsheet "database".
NOTE: Pink cells indicate data that I have corrected on behalf of the respondents.
NOTE: To read extra long “User Comments”, double-click on them to pop up a scrollable box.

[3] The analytics webpage <<coming soon>>

If you are very new to the topic of Raptor Lake tuning then my guide might help you get started.
Guide: "Almost" everything you need to know about Raptor Lake Voltage/Power/Temperature Tuning

If you’re already quite comfortable with undervolting via the Intel Loadline settings (LLC, AC_LL, DC_LL) then you should find Vassil_V’s case study quite interesting.
Different undervolting methods with IA CEP enabled, and how they compare to Lite Load
You will also find his latest “favorite" settings in the Survey database.
 

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Version 5 of my Survey Instructions is linked to the main survey post with amended sort instructions (see last page). Who knows, maybe one day we'll have so many entries in the spreadsheet that you'll actually need the sort functionality.
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nice, thanks!
btw I realized maybe it would have been useful to also have the information whether VID=vcore in load (or what's the average difference)
 
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charonme said:
nice, thanks!
btw I realized maybe it would have been useful to also have the information whether VID=vcore in load (or what's the average difference)
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Thanks, I’ll give that some thought. Incidentally, for anyone reading this post, I have also reworked the Section 5 and 6 instructions because I could see some potential confusion in how people have responded to those sections. Hopefully, the rework will help to reduce any further confusion.
 
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Well guys, we made it to our first milestone yesterday. We now have 20 entries in the survey database. Here’s to hoping for another 10 entries by the end of the year.

A big thank you to all who have responded already! And don’t forget that you can submit follow up entries if something changes, either good or bad.
Cheers!
 
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elagar66156202d5 said:
I have a doubt, with bios 0x12b should I set cpu vr voltage to 1.55 or leave it on auto? I have a 14600kf
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Hey elagar,

You appear to be using the "Intel Defaults" CPU Cooler Tuning preset. I have to believe that the 1.55V limit should absolutely be in effective with the Auto setting. However, what I would say is this: If you want to enter a manual value then why not set something much lower, like 1.45V? That should be a lot safer than 1.55V.

I chose 1.45V because, given your power settings and microcode version, I doubt you're going higher than that. You could double-check me by running HWInfo64 in the background immediately after booting into Windows and then leave it monitoring for a couple of hours while you do regular tasks. See what the maximum VID and Vcore looks like. I'd do the same thing while gaming.

Basically, try to establish an upper baseline and then set the CPU Voltage limit a little higher, perhaps +50mV. So, for example, if you see a 1.40V peak during your extended monitoring, set the limit at 1.45V. My thinking is that you want to set the limit as low as possible without running the risk of it interfering with your day-to-day performance, at least not for 99% of activities.

How does that sound?
 
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Hey elagar,

You appear to be using the "Intel Defaults" CPU Cooler Tuning preset. I have to believe that the 1.55V limit should absolutely be in effective with the Auto setting. However, what I would say is this: If you want to enter a manual value then why not set something much lower, like 1.45V? That should be a lot safer than 1.55V.

I chose 1.45V because, given your power settings and microcode version, I doubt you're going higher than that. You could double-check me by running HWInfo64 in the background immediately after booting into Windows and then leave it monitoring for a couple of hours while you do regular tasks. See what the maximum VID and Vcore looks like. I'd do the same thing while gaming.

Basically, try to establish an upper baseline and then set the CPU Voltage limit a little higher, perhaps +50mV. So, for example, if you see a 1.40V peak during your extended monitoring, set the limit at 1.45V. My thinking is that you want to set the limit as low as possible without running the risk of it interfering with your day-to-day performance, at least not for 99% of activities. How does that sound?
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First of all thanks for the very fast reply. Surely tomorrow I will try to monitor the Core VIDs and Vcore values on hwinfo and then I will try to set Cpu Vr Voltage as you advised me to do! I will let you know as soon as I have done thanks!
 
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charonme said:
so far I'm getting best scores in CB R23 (both multi and single) with a 1.300V limit
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Any thoughts on how the CPU Voltage Limit affects the R23 score? I would not have thought there’d be a direct connection between the two. And what would even make you test such a thing? Even though you are the king of edge conditions! ;)
 
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king of edge
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haha thanks!
Well I just wanted to test how far down can I get with the limit before it starts to impact the score and it appeared that from the 1.55 default down to something like ~1.32 it didn't affect the score (as expected) and below 1.29 it started to reduce the performance (as expected at least in case of single core load), but around 1.3 the scores (both multi core and single core) were slightly higher (although just by a tiny bit). We could speculate that the limit came into effect only during the low load moments between the loops and that somehow helped, but I don't know how exactly and I haven't even measured (yet) whether that's really the case.
 
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FlyingScot said:
Hey elagar,

You appear to be using the "Intel Defaults" CPU Cooler Tuning preset. I have to believe that the 1.55V limit should absolutely be in effective with the Auto setting. However, what I would say is this: If you want to enter a manual value then why not set something much lower, like 1.45V? That should be a lot safer than 1.55V.

I chose 1.45V because, given your power settings and microcode version, I doubt you're going higher than that. You could double-check me by running HWInfo64 in the background immediately after booting into Windows and then leave it monitoring for a couple of hours while you do regular tasks. See what the maximum VID and Vcore looks like. I'd do the same thing while gaming.

Basically, try to establish an upper baseline and then set the CPU Voltage limit a little higher, perhaps +50mV. So, for example, if you see a 1.40V peak during your extended monitoring, set the limit at 1.45V. My thinking is that you want to set the limit as low as possible without running the risk of it interfering with your day-to-day performance, at least not for 99% of activities.

How does that sound?
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here i am again, after 4 hours of using the PC for normal activities including a couple of hours of gaming here is the data from hwinfo. What setting should I set?
 

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charonme said:
but around 1.3 the scores (both multi core and single core) were slightly higher (although just by a tiny bit). We could speculate that the limit came into effect only during the low load moments between the loops and that somehow helped, but I don't know how exactly and I haven't even measured (yet) whether that's really the case.
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An interesting little observation. Keep us posted.
 
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elagar66156202d5 said:
here i am again, after 4 hours of using the PC for normal activities including a couple of hours of gaming here is the data from hwinfo. What setting should I set?
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Highest VID was 1.216V
Highest Vcore was 1.176V
Hmmmm....
If you want to be extra greedy (with safety in mind) then maybe you go with Charonme's 1.300V and see if performance feels normal. If this doesn't work out or makes you a little hesitant then a 1.350V limit should still be very very safe. That's what I would do.
 
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Highest VID was 1.216V
Highest Vcore was 1.176V
Hmmmm....
If you want to be extra greedy (with safety in mind) then maybe you go with Charonme's 1.300V and see if performance feels normal. If this doesn't work out or makes you a little hesitant then a 1.350V limit should still be very very safe. That's what I would do.
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Ok i went for 1.350V and all is still working fine, and performances are still the same, i should be more than safe now i hope!
 
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@FlyingScot,

Just submitted another result from my other thread.

Made note regarding room temperature.

As you know, I had my radiators drawing in ~0°C air from outside, so while I entered 15 (since that was the lowest option), that is really not applicable to my situation.

Thanks
 
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