Re: P55 GD45 won't boot -l- Split

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Hey, I've tried both the jbat1 and battery methods, but not at the same time. I don't have a reset cmos button.

I think the manual said that if the power comes on with no bracket, the motherboard could get damaged. If that happens, will that cause the methods to not work?

When I get home, I'm going to try both of them at the same time and leave it for like, 30 minutes. I'm not sure if i'm shorting the battery correctly, though. Do I just flip it upside down and then let the top touch the rail on the bottom and the side touch the metal tab? My impression is that that's what you're supposed to do.
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Also, I'm wondering if OC Genie ever messes with voltage and then fries the CPU. I thought I read somewhere that it didn't mess with that. Just looking for some reassurance that I don't have to buy a new processor... or motherboard... or worse, both...

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CPU - Intel core i5-650 3.2ghz
Motherboard - P55-GD45 (not sure what other info you need for this)
Memory - G.Skill Ripjaw Dual Channel 2x2gb 1600 (but running at 1333)
Video card - XFX GTS250 1gb
Hard drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue 500gb 7200rpm
Operating system - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
Power Supply Unit - OCZ ModXstream 700W (not sure about amps)
 
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Topic split, don't hi-jack. >> Please read and comply with the Forum Rules <<

What exactly is your problem?

poochiepiano said:
I think the manual said that if the power comes on with no bracket, the motherboard could get damaged. If that happens, will that cause the methods to not work?

When I get home, I'm going to try both of them at the same time and leave it for like, 30 minutes. I'm not sure if i'm shorting the battery correctly, though. Do I just flip it upside down and then let the top touch the rail on the bottom and the side touch the metal tab? My impression is that that's what you're supposed to do.
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Also, I'm wondering if OC Genie ever messes with voltage and then fries the CPU. I thought I read somewhere that it didn't mess with that. Just looking for some reassurance that I don't have to buy a new processor... or motherboard... or worse, both...
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What bracket? Are you referring to the jumper on JBAT1?

Unplug the PSU from AC power, remove the battery from MB, wait a couple of minutes and reinstall battery. You shouldn't need to mess with the jumper if you remove the battery as described. Do not install the battery upside down or short the battery itself for any reason especially on the MB.
What it says in the manual for JBAT1 which you should have read by now:
Important
You can clear CMOS by shorting 2-3 pin while the system is off. Then return to 1-
2 pin position. Avoid clearing the CMOS while the system is on; it will damage the
mainboard.

No, OC Genie will not over volt anything that would cause damage. No company would include a utility that would make them responsible for potential damages like you mention, that would be downright stupid for them to do so.
 
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Sorry, I figured it would be relevant since I had the same problem and didn't want to make a new topic about the same thing.

Yeah, the jumper on JBAT1. What about powering up the computer with no jumper on at all? Does that cause mainboard damage?

Alright, that's good, haha. Means I don't have to buy a new CPU. Some companies don't take responsibility for things like that, though. They could just say that using it would void a warranty since it was overclocking or something. idk, but it's good to know!

Thanks for your help!
 
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I don't think it would hurt anything if it were accidentally powered up with no jumper but don't ever do it with the jumper in clear CMOS position.
 
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So yeah, I've tried both of them and it didn't work. I left out the battery and the jumper in the 2+3 position for over an hour. I shorted the battery for around 8-10 seconds. Not really sure what else I can do to reset the CMOS, and now I don't even know if resetting the CMOs will make a difference. The jumper was never in the 2+3 position while the PC was on.

I heard swapping the processor will reset the CMOS, but I don't have another processor lying around. Would this be a valid reason to RMA?
 
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For the 2nd time:  What exactly is your problem?

You continue with talk about clearing CMOS but haven't described your actual problem yet.
 
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My bad; I'm running on a P55M-GD45 and decided to try out the OC Genie. So I went to the BIOS menu, enabled OC Genie, and then saved the overclocking profile and exited. The PC reset, but then turned off after like, 5 seconds (nothing showed up on the monitor or anything) and then turned on, then off, then on, then off. I let it run for a while because the motherboard manual said that it would return to default settings after 3 tries, but it didn't, even after about 10.

I found the thread that this split from, in addition to some other stuff on tomshardware and talked to my electrical engineering friend and the answer seemed to be resetting the CMOS. So... that's pretty much where I'm at.

I've tried the two methods and it seems that the BIOS hasn't been changed back because it's still turning on and off.
 
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Did you ever switch off the OC Genie button again? If not, the system will continue to try and OC your set-up. Please ensure to de-select it if you have not. Also remove your memory and only start with one mem module.
 
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I don't think that the GD-45 actually has a button for OC genie. I looked everywhere and couldn't find it, so I went through the BIOS to do it.

I guess I could try the RAM thing too.
 
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Yeah, unlike the 80 and 65, the GD45 HAS OC Genie, but it doesn't have a physical button for it (unless it does, then someone please tell me, haha), so you have to enable it through the BIOS, which I can't get to to turn off OC Genie since it won't boot to there.

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I tried to just boot with one stick of RAM, that didn't work either.
 
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The CMOS reset did not work. Its time to find a standard DDR3-1333 memory module. Its possible that your overclocked/overvolted memory is causing the issue.
Other things to try. Take your MB out of the case, put it on a non-conductive surface and just connect the bare minimum and see if you can get into the BIOS.
Try another CPU on your MB and/or try your CPU on another MB.

Edit: What BIOS version did your MB have when you first got it? Did you do a BIOS flash? Your MB only supported your CPU from v1.5 onwards. That may be part of the problem.
 
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Is your MB actually a P55M-GD45? Please use correct name for it as there is no P55-GD45.

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=170&prod_no=1894
 
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Oops, sorry, I've been inconsistent. It's the P55M-GD45.

I think that the easiest thing to do would just be to RMA the board after all. Even if I did all of those tests, there's no guarantee that the board will work again. I've been talking to MSi support and they said it would OK to RMA because of OC genie. Plus, I don't have another CPU/motherboard lying around with matching socket type, no less.

Thanks for all of your help, sorry it turned out to be for naught. I'll definitely come here next time something goes wrong, you guys have been really helpful.
 
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Please let us know if it's OK after you get the MB.

As far as switch for OC Genie most of the MB's w/OC G do have a switch of one kind or another on the MB.
 
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Hey, I'm back. I just got the RMA'd motherboard today, and I'm typing the message on my PC now, so all is well, haha.

I got a bit scared at first though, because when I first booted it up, the resolution, mouse, and keyboard were messed up. Resolution was low, but I thought that was normal, except the mouse and keyboard didn't work. I rebooted and the resolution was fixed, but still the mouse and keyboard didn't work. I thought the I/O port was broken or something and started to get a little worried, but with each successive reboot, one component came to life, the mouse first and then the keyboard.

Thanks for all your help! Coming here first next time I get a problem. (Well maybe second; MSI customer support first  :-P))
 
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