SYSTEM SPECS
CORE I7 920 2.67ghz ( capable of doing 4.0ghz+ stable but right now i'm at stock )
MSI x58 PLATINUM ( was using MSI x58 PLATINUM SLI beta bios 3.1 beta 4 which adds better overclockablity, uncore multi, sli support, etc but right now i'm at stock. )
ADATA 3x2gb DDR3 1333mhz ( capable of doing 1600mhz but it isn't such great ram overclocking wise and is the reason why i was stuck at 4.0ghz but right now it's on stock )
Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb ( not overclocked at all )
Onboard 7.1 ( i do have a sound blaster but i figure i resolve this issuse with fewer components as possible )
4 harddrives
PROBLEM
My gta 4 is performing like CRAP and it should not be, also my san andreas has actually showed reduced performance from my x2 amd system. I've ran super pi and i get accurate results, i've ran everest memory bench and i also get accurate results, now 3dmark 06 i've ran i get good cpu scores but i guess i'm some where around 12k-13k people are saying thats low. Basically i'm getting every known popular bench at the moment and i'm gonna be doing some serious tests at stock. Other games Do show signs of increase but something clearly isn't right if i'm getting the results i am so i would appreciate if this matter could be resolved and i can get the performance that i am suppose to be getting like everybody else's stock performance.
IN DEPTH ANALYSIS
I am running stock right now back to the 1.1 official msi motherboard bios. I have ran gta 4 benchmarks and here are the results.
I have set all the settings to lowest possible and was testing with only differences in resolution.
800 x 600
Statistics
Average FPS: 64.84
Duration: 37.11 sec
CPU Usage: 30%
System memory usage: 30%
Video memory usage: 58%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 800 x 600 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
1024 x 768
Statistics
Average FPS: 63.70
Duration: 37.13 sec
CPU Usage: 31%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 61%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
1600 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 43.15
Duration: 37.18 sec
CPU Usage: 35%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 73%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1600 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
1920 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 37.95
Duration: 37.16 sec
CPU Usage: 33%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 87%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
The last 2 tests i cranked all rendering quality to high except for textures and draw distance, basically the options that show increase of ram usage when you set them higher, i didn't use. I just set all the options to max that didn't use any additional ram.
1600 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 31.57
Duration: 37.26 sec
CPU Usage: 31%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 97%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1600 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 100
1920 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 28.69
Duration: 37.29 sec
CPU Usage: 31%
System memory usage: 30%
Video memory usage: 98%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 100
Finally This last test i ran with my processor overclocked to 3.8ghz for some reason this new bios is very unstable and basically sucks, i can do 4.0ghz and higher on the 3.1 beta 4 bios.
1600 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 33.79
Duration: 37.20 sec
CPU Usage: 26%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 92%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1600 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 100
Hardware
Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition
Service Pack 2
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
Video Driver version: 181.22
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
As you can see there is absolutely no difference in fps increase from 1600 x 1200 with a higher overclocked processor, which is absolutely impossible. I have seen people overclock there quad cores just by about 500mhz and yield at least 7-9 fps increase maybe even more.
Everybody claims even hardware review sites
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,670889/Reviews/GTA_4_PC-_Benchmark_with_7_Ati_and_Nvidia_graphics_cards/?page=2
That the gpu has barely much effect on the game, as you can see in that review the 9800 GT and the gtx 280 have about 5-7 fps difference at most between each other. So if i would have not known about these GTA 4 Facts i would say logically the gpu is most likely holding me back.
But this can not be the case when everybody confirms it's majorly the cpu and they are getting better results with lower system specs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKzDYKrUDsA
This guy has a lower clocked processor the same amount of ram but 2 8800 GT's in sli, Sli barely works in this game from what sources are saying. Nether the less he's running at 60-70 fps almost fluid like.
Look i do not know how to explain this at all but people who understand what i'm talking about clearly something IS wrong. I should not be getting such low results like this.
I also still don't know why San andreas is performing Worse, though i am about to go through all the driver sets starting from 180.48 cause i remember installing san andreas around that time.
Assistance would be much appreciated because this is WEIRD, i am also getting all the latest benchmarks like 3dmark and such and i'm going to do nothing but bench as many programs as i can at stock.
Other games did show signs of increase but personally i think that maybe it's something software related though i don't know what it can be, maybe intel INF CHIPSET drivers are real SH!T, but that can't be the case since other i7 users are getting better results. Or maybe my video card is degrading which is really weird but then again i have seen no performance loss graphic's wise as of yet in other games to my best recollection.
Appreciate you taking the time to read this thread, something is wrong, and i have paid money to NOT enjoy a system
plus another seagate drive just bit the dust.
EDIT: UPDATE
BENCHMARK RESULTS
I7 2.67ghz
MSI x58 plat 1.1
Adata 3x2gb ddr3 1066mhz 9-9-9-24 1T
Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb
3DMARK05 - 19584
GT1 - 75 fps
GT2 - 57 fps
GT3 - 111 fps
CPU SCORE - 16232
CPU1 - 8.0 fps
CPu2 - 14.6 fps
3DMARK06 - 12889
SM 2.0 SCORE - 5312
GT1 - 43 fps
GT2 - 45 fps
SM 3.0 SCORE - 5043
HDR1 - 48 fps
HDR2 - 52 fps
CPU SCORE - 5035
CPU1 - 1.707 fps
CPU2 - 2.376 FPS
Lavalys EVEREST Cache & Memory Benchmark
| Read | Write | Copy | Latency
__________________________________________________________________
Memory | 11169 MB/S | 9587 MB/S | 12192 Mb/S | 47.7 NS
_________
L1 cache | 42764 MB/S | 42744 MB/S | 85464 MB/S | 1.5 NS
_________
L2 cache | 28469 MB/S | 25824 MB/S | 33022 MB/S | 3.8 NS
_________
l3 cache | 19955 MB/S | 14341 MB/S | 19922 MB/S | 5.2 NS
_________
SUPER PI MOD1.5 XS
1MB calculation 15.438s
I have no idea what to say, the bios first of all is gay but the latest 1.1 so i figure i resolve the problems with the official bios. I rather not overclock anything at the moment and just solve the situation on stock, I've tried Windows XP Windows XP 64 VISTA 64, i've got all the latest drivers directx you name it intel INF chipset. I'm not getting it why am i getting such low performance in that game and my scores don't look to impressive either. I've even tried going from Triple Channel to Dual channel, as you can see i've given the most detailed as possible information and ran the tests to prove it so i don't know man SUCKS i cant enjoy my RIG, what happened to the days where you buy hardware and IT WORKS just like as described.
CORE I7 920 2.67ghz ( capable of doing 4.0ghz+ stable but right now i'm at stock )
MSI x58 PLATINUM ( was using MSI x58 PLATINUM SLI beta bios 3.1 beta 4 which adds better overclockablity, uncore multi, sli support, etc but right now i'm at stock. )
ADATA 3x2gb DDR3 1333mhz ( capable of doing 1600mhz but it isn't such great ram overclocking wise and is the reason why i was stuck at 4.0ghz but right now it's on stock )
Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb ( not overclocked at all )
Onboard 7.1 ( i do have a sound blaster but i figure i resolve this issuse with fewer components as possible )
4 harddrives
PROBLEM
My gta 4 is performing like CRAP and it should not be, also my san andreas has actually showed reduced performance from my x2 amd system. I've ran super pi and i get accurate results, i've ran everest memory bench and i also get accurate results, now 3dmark 06 i've ran i get good cpu scores but i guess i'm some where around 12k-13k people are saying thats low. Basically i'm getting every known popular bench at the moment and i'm gonna be doing some serious tests at stock. Other games Do show signs of increase but something clearly isn't right if i'm getting the results i am so i would appreciate if this matter could be resolved and i can get the performance that i am suppose to be getting like everybody else's stock performance.
IN DEPTH ANALYSIS
I am running stock right now back to the 1.1 official msi motherboard bios. I have ran gta 4 benchmarks and here are the results.
I have set all the settings to lowest possible and was testing with only differences in resolution.
800 x 600
Statistics
Average FPS: 64.84
Duration: 37.11 sec
CPU Usage: 30%
System memory usage: 30%
Video memory usage: 58%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 800 x 600 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
1024 x 768
Statistics
Average FPS: 63.70
Duration: 37.13 sec
CPU Usage: 31%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 61%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1024 x 768 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
1600 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 43.15
Duration: 37.18 sec
CPU Usage: 35%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 73%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1600 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
1920 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 37.95
Duration: 37.16 sec
CPU Usage: 33%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 87%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1
The last 2 tests i cranked all rendering quality to high except for textures and draw distance, basically the options that show increase of ram usage when you set them higher, i didn't use. I just set all the options to max that didn't use any additional ram.
1600 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 31.57
Duration: 37.26 sec
CPU Usage: 31%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 97%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1600 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 100
1920 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 28.69
Duration: 37.29 sec
CPU Usage: 31%
System memory usage: 30%
Video memory usage: 98%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1920 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 100
Finally This last test i ran with my processor overclocked to 3.8ghz for some reason this new bios is very unstable and basically sucks, i can do 4.0ghz and higher on the 3.1 beta 4 bios.
1600 x 1200
Statistics
Average FPS: 33.79
Duration: 37.20 sec
CPU Usage: 26%
System memory usage: 31%
Video memory usage: 92%
Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1600 x 1200 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 100
Hardware
Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Professional x64 Edition
Service Pack 2
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GT
Video Driver version: 181.22
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
Intel(R) Pentium(R) III Xeon processor
As you can see there is absolutely no difference in fps increase from 1600 x 1200 with a higher overclocked processor, which is absolutely impossible. I have seen people overclock there quad cores just by about 500mhz and yield at least 7-9 fps increase maybe even more.
Everybody claims even hardware review sites
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,670889/Reviews/GTA_4_PC-_Benchmark_with_7_Ati_and_Nvidia_graphics_cards/?page=2
That the gpu has barely much effect on the game, as you can see in that review the 9800 GT and the gtx 280 have about 5-7 fps difference at most between each other. So if i would have not known about these GTA 4 Facts i would say logically the gpu is most likely holding me back.
But this can not be the case when everybody confirms it's majorly the cpu and they are getting better results with lower system specs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKzDYKrUDsA
This guy has a lower clocked processor the same amount of ram but 2 8800 GT's in sli, Sli barely works in this game from what sources are saying. Nether the less he's running at 60-70 fps almost fluid like.
Look i do not know how to explain this at all but people who understand what i'm talking about clearly something IS wrong. I should not be getting such low results like this.
I also still don't know why San andreas is performing Worse, though i am about to go through all the driver sets starting from 180.48 cause i remember installing san andreas around that time.
Assistance would be much appreciated because this is WEIRD, i am also getting all the latest benchmarks like 3dmark and such and i'm going to do nothing but bench as many programs as i can at stock.
Other games did show signs of increase but personally i think that maybe it's something software related though i don't know what it can be, maybe intel INF CHIPSET drivers are real SH!T, but that can't be the case since other i7 users are getting better results. Or maybe my video card is degrading which is really weird but then again i have seen no performance loss graphic's wise as of yet in other games to my best recollection.
Appreciate you taking the time to read this thread, something is wrong, and i have paid money to NOT enjoy a system
plus another seagate drive just bit the dust.EDIT: UPDATE
BENCHMARK RESULTS
I7 2.67ghz
MSI x58 plat 1.1
Adata 3x2gb ddr3 1066mhz 9-9-9-24 1T
Nvidia 9800 GT 512mb
3DMARK05 - 19584
GT1 - 75 fps
GT2 - 57 fps
GT3 - 111 fps
CPU SCORE - 16232
CPU1 - 8.0 fps
CPu2 - 14.6 fps
3DMARK06 - 12889
SM 2.0 SCORE - 5312
GT1 - 43 fps
GT2 - 45 fps
SM 3.0 SCORE - 5043
HDR1 - 48 fps
HDR2 - 52 fps
CPU SCORE - 5035
CPU1 - 1.707 fps
CPU2 - 2.376 FPS
Lavalys EVEREST Cache & Memory Benchmark
| Read | Write | Copy | Latency
__________________________________________________________________
Memory | 11169 MB/S | 9587 MB/S | 12192 Mb/S | 47.7 NS
_________
L1 cache | 42764 MB/S | 42744 MB/S | 85464 MB/S | 1.5 NS
_________
L2 cache | 28469 MB/S | 25824 MB/S | 33022 MB/S | 3.8 NS
_________
l3 cache | 19955 MB/S | 14341 MB/S | 19922 MB/S | 5.2 NS
_________
SUPER PI MOD1.5 XS
1MB calculation 15.438s
I have no idea what to say, the bios first of all is gay but the latest 1.1 so i figure i resolve the problems with the official bios. I rather not overclock anything at the moment and just solve the situation on stock, I've tried Windows XP Windows XP 64 VISTA 64, i've got all the latest drivers directx you name it intel INF chipset. I'm not getting it why am i getting such low performance in that game and my scores don't look to impressive either. I've even tried going from Triple Channel to Dual channel, as you can see i've given the most detailed as possible information and ran the tests to prove it so i don't know man SUCKS i cant enjoy my RIG, what happened to the days where you buy hardware and IT WORKS just like as described.
