Slow boot times with MSI X570 MEG Unify

Alan J T

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Think if may be a dodgy ram stick but you won't know till you test both on their own If both post better by themselves than it could be a CPU problem with dual channel. But if one memory stick post faster than the other you have your culperat.
 

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Think if may be a dodgy ram stick but you won't know till you test both on their own If both post better by themselves than it could be a CPU problem with dual channel. But if one memory stick post faster than the other you have your culperat.
Thanks for the info, I will attempt to do this on Friday or Saturday when I am not busy with work and report back with my findings. When I test, should I test with one out and then the other out and then also try them in different slots?
 

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pretty much yes, test each ram stick with slot one being closets to the CPU test i slots 2 and slot 4 first as they should be the ones the ram stick are in now, test with each stick, then move on to slot 1 and 3 with each stick, If pc boots quicker with single stick in all test then test both sticks in slot 1 and 3 together and see what boot time is. If boot time bad on that last test then dual memory support bad on CPU, but if you get bad boot times with just one of the slots with both stick of ram and other slots are normal boot time then you have bad Motherboard. But if you get slow boot in all slots with the same ram stick bad ram.
 

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pretty much yes, test each ram stick with slot one being closets to the CPU test i slots 2 and slot 4 first as they should be the ones the ram stick are in now, test with each stick, then move on to slot 1 and 3 with each stick, If pc boots quicker with single stick in all test then test both sticks in slot 1 and 3 together and see what boot time is. If boot time bad on that last test then dual memory support bad on CPU, but if you get bad boot times with just one of the slots with both stick of ram and other slots are normal boot time then you have bad Motherboard. But if you get slow boot in all slots with the same ram stick bad ram.
Got it, so I think I will remove the one in 4 first then the one in 2. Then put them in 1/3 then try 1 and only 3. Would that be the correct order of operations to check?
 

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i think this is software not hardware. Your machines hanging trying to load something. it may be time to format and reinstall windows. Add each new programme one at time and reboot until you find the culprit. I had an intel system before this and that booted really fast. My 3700x and mag x570 takes about 45 secs to get to log in screen with a SSD
 

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i think this is software not hardware. Your machines hanging trying to load something. it may be time to format and reinstall windows. Add each new programme one at time and reboot until you find the culprit. I had an intel system before this and that booted really fast. My 3700x and mag x570 takes about 45 secs to get to log in screen with a SSD
I already reinstalled windows on a completely new boot drive. Swapped from a Sabrent Rocket 4.0 to the Corsair MP600 and the issue was still there. Wouldn't that rule out a software issue?
 

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it sounds like you are having the typical trouble associated
with being on the cutting edge of a new technology.
it doesnt seem right though. it should be much much faster.
 
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it sounds like you are having the typical trouble associated
with being on the cutting edge of a new technology.
it doesnt seem right though. it should be much much faster.
To be honest that's kind of what I suspected initially with the 3090 but at the same time I haven't seen any other people report this issue, perhaps it's the combination of the 3090 and the MSI X570 Unify?
 

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dont know if this applies but i was reading some reviews at the egg on the
x570 gaming plus and ppl said that an asmedia sata chip which was set
to be sata1 and sata2 which tripped up a lot of ppl had very long boot
times. they said it also caused problems with the lan chip and gpu detection
and of course that all went away if they moved their sata drive to another port one that was
from the cpu. several reports. so unify doesnt have any asmedia chip but a similar situation could
apply. I would try disabling in the bios temporarily some of the add-on bits like wifi and bluetooth
or lan to see if there is any improvement. if it gets better then that might indicate some sort of
problem with hw talkie-talkie like the other board has.
 

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To be honest that's kind of what I suspected initially with the 3090 but at the same time I haven't seen any other people report this issue, perhaps it's the combination of the 3090 and the MSI X570 Unify?
Do you have access to another graphics card to try that idea with? You are likely to be the only person with a 3090 on a unify lol.
 

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Got it, so I think I will remove the one in 4 first then the one in 2. Then put them in 1/3 then try 1 and only 3. Would that be the correct order of operations to check?
Sounds about right Slot 2 is the slot that is recommended if only using one stick of ram. and in Dual mode slot 2 and 4 before slot 1 and 3 is the recommended set up
 

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i think this is software not hardware. Your machines hanging trying to load something. it may be time to format and reinstall windows. Add each new programme one at time and reboot until you find the culprit. I had an intel system before this and that booted really fast. My 3700x and mag x570 takes about 45 secs to get to log in screen with a SSD
Intel and AMD have totally different boot times on average AMD will take twice as long as a Intel to boot.
 

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dont know if this applies but i was reading some reviews at the egg on the
x570 gaming plus and ppl said that an asmedia sata chip which was set
to be sata1 and sata2 which tripped up a lot of ppl had very long boot
times. they said it also caused problems with the lan chip and gpu detection
and of course that all went away if they moved their sata drive to another port one that was
from the cpu. several reports. so unify doesnt have any asmedia chip but a similar situation could
apply. I would try disabling in the bios temporarily some of the add-on bits like wifi and bluetooth
or lan to see if there is any improvement. if it gets better then that might indicate some sort of
problem with hw talkie-talkie like the other board has.
Thanks for the info, I really appreciate it. I will look into this further.
 

daniel.lip154a02e0

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I have exactly the same problem. When pc is turned off overnight, first boot takes a lot longer. Debug LED shows 00 for about 180 seconds, than it takes off and any restart from this moment seams to go completely normal. I have no idea what causes this, I just learned to live with that :(
 

Alan J T

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I have exactly the same problem. When pc is turned off overnight, first boot takes a lot longer. Debug LED shows 00 for about 180 seconds, than it takes off and any restart from this moment seams to go completely normal. I have no idea what causes this, I just learned to live with that :(
Do you by chance turn it off at the powerpoint as well or turn of the PSU if so that will cause a longer boot when powered back on
 

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I'm not touching any cables or switches, just normal system shut down.
EDIT
I forgot to mention, my BIOS is MS-7C35 ver. A.73
 
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I'm having a similar issue with B550 Gaming Edge Wi-Fi but my problem is a lot more simple, Windows loads insanely fast after BIOS load but my BIOS time is 16 seconds which I consider a long time.
 
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