SOLUTION| How to fix ALL problems with MSI GF63 Thin 9RCX/9RC/9SC/8RC/10SX (Lag & stutter & power limit) CUSTOM EC

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Hello everyone,
When I bought the MSI GF63 laptop I have experienced many issues with it including stuttering in games like (GTA V/Just cause 3 & 4 / Youtube Vids and much more..) so today I'm going to show you how to fix ALL of the issues that you are going to experience when buying this laptop, I tried everything from replacing HDD to getting an SSD still the same issue, but today I found the ultimate fix for it.

DISCLAIMER: I'M NOT ASSOCIATED WITH MSI BY ANY WAY, ALL OF THE FILES PROVIDED HERE ARE CUSTOMIZED AND TESTED BY ME SO DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK; MODDING THE EC CAN BE RISKY IF YOU SCREW UP UR EC CHIP IS BRICKED WITH NO EASY WAY TO RESTORE. This firmware is tested by me and have WORKED for me on my (Tested on : MSI GF63 9RCX). SO AGAIN DONT COME HERE BLAMING ME IF UR LAPTOP IS BRICKED.

-How to fix LAG/Stutter:
This is caused by memory, the memory sticks that get put in these MSI laptops when bought stock are not ideal for gaming so the only solution to fix this is to either enable XMP which I'm not sure if you can do on the GF63 series laptops or increase the System Agent clock speed to 1GHZ (FCLK frequency)

STEP 1 | Go to your bios :

You can do this by simply shutting down your laptop then powering it on and spam the DELETE key and the bios UI should pop on.
STEP 2 | Unlock hidden options:
When you are in the BIOS menu go to the "Advanced" tab then click this keyboard combination (LCRTL + LSHIFT + ALT + F2).
After doing this you should see options that look like this :
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STEP 3 | Overclocking the FCLK Frequency (Aka System Agent clock speed):
In the advanced TAB go to the "CPU Information" option:
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Then scroll down and find "FCLK Frequency for Early Power On":
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Click on it then select "1GHZ" the default value for MSI laptops is 800Mhz which is not ideal.
Then go back to the "Save & Exit" tab and select save changes and reset, don't freak out your laptop will bootloop 1 or 2 times because it's training the components (memory etc).
IF your laptop doesn't power on then here's what you do (This is very unlikely):
- Disconnect the AC adapter
- Hold the power button for 30s
- Connect the AC Adapter
- Done you should be able to boot up again after CMOS reset.
STEP 4 | Voila!/Congrats
- Your lag should be fixed and you are ready to go my friend! I suggest not go any further now if you don't want to take the risk.
- If this didn't work for you then it's most likely a ram issue try running Windows Memory Diagnostics tools and check for errors (Tutorial)

-Get more performance out of your laptop :
DISCLAIMER: I'm not responsible for any damages that could happen while you are flashing this firmware, it has been tested on the MSI GF63 Thin 9RCX/10SX. If you brick your laptop it's your fault and only yours.

This is a custom firmware I modified for MSI GF63 Thin series which will raise UP the the power limit from 25W to 45w which is the normal TDP for the 8750H/9750H, This should def give you more performance in games. (25% Increase) my temps were about 94-96 but this is in a very hot environment because it's summer out here. I suggest you always run this with cooler boost.
Firmware download : https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...216541717/MSIGF63_custom_firmware_release.zip
GTA V Hwinfo log with custom firmware (if you see gpu usage drops don't worry about that, that's because I didn't apply the fix for that while I was testing the firmware): https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...1/741802857497493524/Custom_firmware_logs.CSV

Please let me know how it goes down in the comments
Thanks
Zeph
 

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Just tried both of these. My model uses the i5-9300H which is already helping, but the memory FCLK increase fixed the stutter and works with my Patriot memory i swapped the stock memory with.

The EC firmware, at first I didn't think I needed because I had already done the IMON offset with the advanced bios to trick the CPU into thinking its drawing less power. It holds 78 watts sustained now, and surprisingly my laptops single fan can keep it cool with CoolerBoost enabled.

However, I decided to try OPS custom firmware and its actually running the same *but cooler,* which is great. Probably because OP removed the power limit without faking the amperage reading like I did, so less amps, less heat.

All in all, this works well, but when an EC update arrives....
 

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additional info "EC FW" link
....custom PRIVACY MOD to 45w unlock


Model : MS-16R3
MKT Name : GF63 Thin 8RCS,GF63 Thin 9SC,GF63 Thin 9RC,GF63 Thin 9RCX/GF63 Thin 9SC
and 45w on thin nb "one fan" models -possible get overheat ,,,or hw defect or brick
 

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Just tried both of these. My model uses the i5-9300H which is already helping, but the memory FCLK increase fixed the stutter and works with my Patriot memory i swapped the stock memory with.

The EC firmware, at first I didn't think I needed because I had already done the IMON offset with the advanced bios to trick the CPU into thinking its drawing less power. It holds 78 watts sustained now, and surprisingly my laptops single fan can keep it cool with CoolerBoost enabled.

However, I decided to try OPS custom firmware and its actually running the same *but cooler,* which is great. Probably because OP removed the power limit without faking the amperage reading like I did, so less amps, less heat.

All in all, this works well, but when an EC update arrives....
imon - power limit fake read "not amperes"
VR or ICCMAX -AMPERES
PL PL2 PL3 PL4 - powers --all disabled after IMON
need new limits --lower ICCMAX "EDP LIMIT" or good cooling
78w + imon --15w or what set negative numbers
FCLK -aka system agent -small raise memory / pci-e --hwinfo sensor
why defaults using nb 800mhz :unsure: good for overclock "but not on NB"
1ghz is OK standard for new CPU 7th UP or older
 

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additional info "EC FW" link
....custom PRIVACY MOD to 45w unlock


Model : MS-16R3
MKT Name : GF63 Thin 8RCS,GF63 Thin 9SC,GF63 Thin 9RC,GF63 Thin 9RCX/GF63 Thin 9SC
and 45w on thin nb "one fan" models -possible get overheat ,,,or hw defect or brick
my temps were high due to high room tempature, I suggest you undervolt the cpu heavily before using this firmware on one fan models. Thanks and enjoy.
 

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my temps were high due to high room tempature, I suggest you undervolt the cpu heavily before using this firmware on one fan models. Thanks and enjoy.
problem is your cooling is ""good"" before + cooling pad ,,some users get overheat on 25w
flash this and get boot loop --this not help

therefore he would like more warnings ,,all this users they are frustrated :censored: .,,they will do anything
not get repair ,.,get more problems

need good temperatures for unlock TDP
,,stock is crazy low 25w "cooling design" "one fan" is bad for performance/cooling
good combo using "under volt" GPU --same fan + connected pipes "heat pipe" "less gpu temps --better for CPU"
test custom fan curve -- aggressive ends points cpu 20-30-50-60-150-150 -example

is not easy notebook model :(

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problem is your cooling is good + pads ,,some users get overheat on 25w
flash this and get boot loop --not help

therefore he would like more warnings ,,all this users they are frustrated .,,they will do anything
not get repair --get more problems

need good temperatures for unlock TDP ,,stock is crazy low "cooling design" "one fan" is bad for performance
good combo undervolt GPU --same fan + split heat pipe

is not easy nb model :(
Yes there's always the possibility for bootloops, if your cooling is too bad. But I tested this on GTA V for over an hour I didn't get overheat, just high tempatures, that can be fixed by undervolting GPU & CPU. YOU DONT NEED TO TAKE THE RISK IF ITS FIXED, IF ITS NOT BROKEN DONT FIX IT, so please take caution when using this firmware. Thanks and enjoy.
 

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setup way for testing ,,check ..,,.need unlock // or not :devilish:
uninstall dragon center / or must test compatibility
IMON -disable power limits
combo key up ,,power // performance tab
CPU // VR SETTING tab

CORE/IA domain
31999 IMON
50 SCALE imon
prefix - negative

set lower first time
,..,VR 75amperes THIN NB ? and disable TDC or check the value
cpu VR limit -75 amps is in this tab 300 VR "x4 in bios"
example

100ampers -400VR
112.5A -450 VR -- on my 8cores 100w load++ lq metal + some mods
90C
ideal for your CPU 12CORES -138A or more --impossible


...after IMON
boot to windows ,,install XTU --RAISING ICCMAX in steps ,., temps around 90C for load -- according to cooling
any problems //restore --30s power button when nb run or in bios load defaults
this restore stock config

warnings
-- get overheat or power off ,,need cooling and some this BYPASS not must works on BATTERY or combo CPU/GPU load
ideal is recharge to 100./. full battery all time


links

good luck ,,and not BRICK your NOTEBOOKS
 
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IMON slope 50
IMON offset 31999
IMON prefix -
yellow - VR/ICCMAX - 300 first time "for this cooling"
green - TDC DISABLE "thermal VR config" similar like yellow ,.only more configurable
or test defaults // AUTO

after reboot ,,XTU and raising ICCMAX from 75amp"300VR" UP under your apps or stress
temperature on "cooler boost" -max 94C

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good stress for gaming MSI kombustor cpu burner / GPU stress --gaming stress --check results
,..set cpu burner similar LOAD usage like games or half "4-6" cores 50-60./. CPU LOAD ??
no need full stress "gaming usage"
testing add + GPU stress ,,or VRAM 3gb stress "gtx 1050ti 4gb vram"-- check results

you just find that 25w to 35w OEM is MAXIMUM FOR THIS NB or need MOD cooling ,,cooling PADs ,.LQ metal .,.more heatpipes
must testing
for all will be an ideal setting elsewhere ,, according to use
..afterburner guide -- It's somewhere, I can't find it "gtx1050 overheat or similar topic"
good luck

sorry translation ,,use "imagination" :alien:
 
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gpu voltage limit guide

all this unlock TDP is bad on this notebook :unsure:
ok ,,gaming load is 95C ? is crazy ,,any decompress big file ?? 100./. usage 1hour??? and still get Tmax "heavy limit or power off"
not possible normal cooling --only get limit

temps all time around 100C - thermal paste dry fast ,,raising chance HWdefect or instability :censored:

if you want to use SETUP bypass or FW mod ,, I recommend setting the ALARM alert OR LOWER ICCMAX "all core load -edp limit"
good test is XTU bench 1 / bench2 beta for idea -- cooling OK or NOT

or set ALARM 90-94C -5sec ?? "auto start ,,in app ALARM setting CPU package"
afterburner
hwinfo
aida64

setup better this nb MODEL "one fan" impossible ,.,I think :confused:
 
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Has anyone tried to contact MSI for the official solution?
I'm afraid that this firmware may crash my laptop.
 

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Has anyone tried to contact MSI for the official solution?
I'm afraid that this firmware may crash my laptop.
official solution ??
is normal 25w to 35w pl2 cpu ,,75w gpu 30w system --120w adapter "heavy load still drying battery +AC works"
or test IMON "bypass power limits" ,,but get overheat all time "all cores works normal"

custom FW good idea and nice work :-) ,,but last solution ,,any FLASH is risk oem or custom
any problem after flash ,,,and repair is difficult

test only SETUP way -- restore bios defaults or 30s power button --stock config
any UNLOCK TDP-- possible kill thermal paste "need re-paste"
 
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hello how to revert / turn down clock speed ?? it make my LAPTOP overheat pls help...
on fw ? -must flash OEM FW ,,on SETUP way - must reload bios DEFAUTS

,.for ALL
not USE FIRST TIME FW FLASH
test bypass
-get overheat "reload setup",,,and use STOCK CONFIG ,,,not exist better settup "or need LQMETAL + cooling pad + more heat pipes" :rolleyes:

gf63 - cpu 25w minimal problem ,,not ideal config "not get any limit-best performance"
..but exist lot next problems for normal performance/gaming
,,8gb ram + swap // max Q "no power gpu" lot LIMITS "IGPU / VR / ALL sometimes get KICK"
HDD quality ?? lot models come witch defect

hdd - S.M.A.R.T. info "crystal disk info or hwinfo -ATA/SATA - S.M.A.R.T. tab

other limits -bad drivers or incopatibility to last windows ? or [***CENSORED***] AC adapter ,,exist to many answers
hwinfo + log + RIVA server --this crate LOG + FPS --check fps drops vs other items
open riva .,.,open hwinfo sensor ,,create log ,,play ,,,check results --repair all limits
 
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LOG guide
riva server ,,run first "must exist RTSS tab in hwinfo sensor" FPS
riva server
hwinfo
hwinfo LOG guide
LOG guide
LogViewer "compare FPS VS DROPS"
tool for LOG check
.................................
alternative ,,OSD + HWINFO IN BACKGROUND "or HWINFO + graphs -background"
OSD - RIVA SERVER + Afterburner or RIVA + HWINFO
"need setup in app afterburner -monitoring tab /or hwinfo -rstt tab" + must run riva server \ enable OSD in RIVA app


,.all info realtime --stress MSI kombustor "faster setup" possible load gpu "core/vram/cpu cores/package"
or in your GAMES -find problem for repair

hwinfo -my screen -all info from CPU LIMITS
gpu - check drops in 3d load "graph best"
FPS - from hwinfo or afterburner + RIVA server "graph best" in games check situation
other limits -temperatures 90C up / power limits / -- CLOCK / RATIOS "small drops -normal"
down to LFM "minimal state" -problem "best LOG compare FPS VS DROPS"

axa.jpg

translation ,,sorry
 
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FOR ALL ,.,test FIRST BYPASS ONLY "get OVERHEAT only"
"problem -restore setup" 30s power button when NB run "full reset" or in bios "load defaults"
.,.,.,and use ONLY STOCK FW/BIOS
any UNLOCK TDP-- possible kill thermal paste "need re-paste"

and use GUIDE UP ,,no need TDP UNLOCK
 
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