Strange behaviour from X670e Tomahawk

[hmj2k1158202e1]

Greetings good people,

I have been rocking an X670e Tomahawk for almost 2 years now, Recently, about 10 days or so, I upgraded the BIOS to ver. 7E12v1H, which is the latest at the time of typing this. I also reinstalled a copy of Windows 11. All is well execpt that sometimes when I boot my PC from a cold boot, the PC takes longer than normal to boot into Windows and windows feels very sluggish like even the mouse pointer jumps around and clicking or trying to open any app feels impossible—turning the PC off then on again from a cold boot fixes this.
PC specs :

7800X3d
2x32GB DDR5 6000T Gskill RAM
4080 SuprimX
512 GB Samsung 960 pro SSD for booting
2TB Kingston Fury SSD
1TB Samsung EVO 840 SATA
1TB Seagate HD
Antec 1350w PSU

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

An update, the issue is not only a sluggish graphical problem but also an overall system performance drop. During an episode of this issue I tried to open CPU-Z and GPU-Z, and they both took a very long time to start.

 

[dissara00157702e5]

• Hi, has anything changed in the new BIOS version?
• Description: - AGESA PI-1.2.0.3c released. - Security update for the Ryzen 9000 series CPU.

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

I haven't tried the latest BIOS, waiting for a non beta version or maybe a newer AGESA.

 

[iamalexk]

Sounds like the same problem a lot of people are happening with "PCI-E" training. Next time it happens, open up GPU-Z and look at the bus interface, I bet it'll show 1.1-2.0.

No real fix for this, though some people have had some luck by enabling spread spectrum in their BIOS.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/1iwh68i

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...-stutterfreeze-at-win-startup-leading-to-bla/

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforc...blems-with-rtx-5080-after-5726057265/3509503/

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/geforce-graphics-cards/5/559966/pcie-11-5080fe/

https://www.igorslab.de/en/nvidia-g...t-geforce-rtx-4080-ti-mit-blackwell-genen/10/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/1ic5iwo

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...ith-rtx-asus-tuf-5090-oc.410509/#post-2323745

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...-the-pcie-slot-version-is-still-stuck.410048/

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/5080-pcie-1-1.410488/

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/x870-tomahawk-and-5090-fe-stability.409984/

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...boots-5090-at-pcie-3-0-instead-of-5-0.410975/

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/1jwbj27

https://www.reddit.com/r/MSI_Gaming/comments/1jeqkn6

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/x870e-godlike-stutter-very-slow.410076/#post-2330153

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/5080-pcie-1-1.410488/#post-2330356

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...ring-on-new-bios-version.408506/#post-2329931

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...tant-bios-feedback.409743/page-3#post-2330181

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/x670e-motherboard-causing-massive-stuttering.408808/

https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...0-tomahawk-severe-stuttering-and-bsod.408539/

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

New firmware was released today, June 10th. Going to try it out.

 

[dissara00157702e5]

If you try the new firmware, please tell me about the results.

 

[bobmitch5358]

I would also like to know the results of the firmware update. Been holding off on last few betas

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

I will keep you updated about it. I currently flashed the new firmware and only had a couple of reboot cycles. I need to test it for at least a week, hopefully, the low performance and laggy experience will be gone. Fingers crossed!

 

[bobmitch5358]

I updated to the new bios as well. Wanted to see if things would still be smooth. Settings to default...upgraded to 1.10...rebooted. Entered bios at message that settings changed...set everything up the way I used to...PBO enabled...igpu disabled...memory to XMP and fan speeds all set up. Lots of changes...hit save and reboot and got some odd text message and error. So I rebooted...went back into the bios...no changes were saved...so as I set each setting the way I wanted...saved and moved to the next thing. Once totally done with my settings...hit save and reboot and all was fine. Went back into the bios to check that the setting were as I set them....all good. So far, pretty smooth. Even played around with Curve Optimizer -25 and got a little extra boost out of all cores to 5050 on my 7800X3D. Would be interested in knowing what everyone else experiences. I think this bios is a keeper

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

I mad a total of 7 cold boots so far, all are good, no sluggish performance or laggy behavior, still too early to rest. but so far so good, fingers crossed.

 

[dissara00157702e5]

I also updated the new firmware. Everything is running smoothly; it works perfectly.

 

[bobmitch5358]

I am actually quite pleased with this update. I am contemplating an upgrade to the 9950X3D chip on the board...just wondering if there would also be an advantage to upgrading to faster memory (I have 32 GB of DDR5-6000 CL30).

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

An Update, alas, today, and after 6 days, I got my first sluggish performance after a cold boot. The problem still exists even with the new 7E12v1I BIOS.

 

[dissara00157702e5]

Today, I also faced this problem after installing Windows 11 IoT LTSC. When will they finally fix this issue?

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

Is this problem unique to MSI boards, or do other manufacturers have the same issue?

 

[dissara00157702e5]

It seems like the last two firmware updates are the most unstable ones ever.

 

[hmj2k1158202e1]

It seems like the last two firmware updates are the most unstable ones ever.

For me, everything works fine except the poor lagging performance from cold boots. I am really not having a good overall experience with MSI boards so far.

 

[dissara00157702e5]

I also seemed to be doing fine, but this slowdown is annoying.