Svet's Fermi/Kepler VBIOS/EC-FW Tuner - [ver: 3.25t]

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Till which temperature do you guys leave your CPU before starting the fans?

Would for example leaving the CPU until 65C before the fans start to run OK?




EDIT Svet: In my opinion about this:
Check what is your max CPU temp at idle and while doing standard stuffs like internet browsing,
reading/typing stuffs in word/excell or any other similar not high power demanding stuffs.
Then set this specified CPU temp trigger to few degress above the max CPU temp recorded due those tasks,
by that way this would keep the FAN abosolutelly silent for standard non power demanding tasks.
The CPU temp will varry depend of the CPU used, notebook's thermal design and so on.
So the max CPU temp at idle tasks will varry depend of the cases and has to be figured individually.
 

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Svet: I should have worded my question differently. 

Basically, I am trying to find out what is considered to be a safe temperature for the Skylake CPU before the fans start to cool it down. Is for example 65, 70 or 80? I am concerned about the long-term life of the CPU.
 

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Aha i guess you mean acceptable temp for long term use.
Well, basically highest temp is a dangerous one.
For this CPU max temp is a 100C:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-6700HQ-Notebook-Processor.149420.0.html
i'm not sure what's the load temp of this CPU, 
but normally for prevision gens its around 90C-92C for decent/high load
[for some CPU and NB more]

For the temp listed:

 Is for example 65, 70 or 80? 
Don't have opinion with this CPU behavoir,
but 65C can't harm it for sure. especially when we are talking for idle not load CPU temps.
 

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Hi Svet, I am wondering about reducing fan noise on the MSI Ghost Pro 60 laptop - Skylake version with Windows 10.

I was told the "Silent Option" utility was the best and most user friendly tool, but other folks said Silent Option was not compatible with the Skylake processor and that your VBIOS/EC tuner utility was the only option to achieve this.

Can you tell me which utility I should use if the only thing I need is to reduce fan activity at idle/low-graphics settings? -- On a Skylake processor on Windows 10.

Thanks so much!

EDIT Svet:
Hello

Sorry I can't comment how other tools behaviours.
 

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Hey Svet,

I bought your bios tuner last year but i cant update it says its the newest version (2.85d)... Can you send me the newest Version of the bios tuner?

thanks.

EDIT Svet: Yes because update server was replaced in future versions.

I bought your bios tuner last year
Verified, yes i will send you the latest version shortly.

EDIT: Wow that was fast :D Thanks
 

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Svet: Can your tool modify the fan behavior on Skylake processors on Windows 10 so they will not be noisy while doing normal browsing/word processing (or low performance gaming)?

Thanks,

EDIT Svet: 
Yes if the notebook model is listed as supported.
 

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Sorry to be asking questions that are probably answered in the FAQ at the top, but there's just too much information there; I can't find what I'm looking for.

Here are my questions:

[list type=decimal]
[*]Does this utility support fan control on my laptop (GS60 Ghost-607, with i7-5700HQ and GTX 965M)? I'm not interested in overclocking or anything, just fan control.
[*]Does it have to modify the BIOS to control the fan, or is that a separate function?
[*]Does it make it easy to switch between a few different fan speed curves? This is my main problem with MSI's Silent Option utility: it takes a lot of mouse actions just to switch from one configuration to another. Ideally I'd like to have at least two configurations (a "silent" setting for tabletop, and a "cool" one for my lap), and be able to switch between them with a keyboard shortcut. I hate having to open up Silent Option from the task bar and fiddle with its buttons.
[/list]

I'd be fine with paying for it if I knew it could do everything I want, but it's hard to tell without trying it.

EDIT Svet:
Hello

Does this utility support fan control on my laptop (GS60 Ghost-607, with i7-5700HQ and GTX 965M)? I'm not interested in overclocking or anything, just fan control.
Which GS60 Ghost exactly? there are many models:
http://www.msi.com/search/GS60/product/1

http://www.msi.com/search/GS60/product/2


Does it have to modify the BIOS to control the fan, or is that a separate function?
Its modify the firmware to apply desired changes,
and after that you have to flash the new firmware to apply changes.


Does it make it easy to switch between a few different fan speed curves? This is my main problem with MSI's Silent Option utility: it takes a lot of mouse actions just to switch from one configuration to another. Ideally I'd like to have at least two configurations (a "silent" setting for tabletop, and a "cool" one for my lap), and be able to switch between them with a keyboard shortcut. I hate having to open up Silent Option from the task bar and fiddle with its buttons.
Nope, the tool do not run resident to control the FAN.
Each change to the firmware will require a firmware reflashing to apply newest changes.
The changes are done permanently and no need any further tool to runs after that.
Changes also can apply outside Windows too,
there are multiple FAN/temp curves for both CPU/GPU depend of different scenarios.
 

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Ok, thanks, it doesn't sound like it does what I want at all.

BTW, I did say the specific model of my GS60, it's the GS60 Ghost-607. Maybe it had a different model number in other countries or something.
 

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Svet: The important thing here is that it is an Intel 6th generation processor. I am hearing from some people that your tool does not run on the 6th generation (Skylake) on ANY device. Can you please confirm that your tool runs on devices that have the Intel 6th generation (Skylake) processor?

Here is an example model:

http://www.msi.com/product/notebook/GS60-6QE-Ghost-Pro.html#hero-overview

Kevin.

EDIT Svet:
Yes, for FAN adjustment the model is supported.

The model is also listed in the 1st topic in the support list.
 

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Hey Svet,

I am strongly considering donating and getting your tool after seeing all of the success stories from other users on this thread. I, too, have the GS60 6QE model and the fan noise is so inconsistent it is really ruining my experience with the laptop. However, I am not very proficient with computers and I am not sure if I will be able to use your tool properly without breaking anything.

My question is, if I am just looking to tweak with the fan curve and use the Threshold Hysteresis, will the procedures be complicated? Or will it just be a "plug-and-play" type of tool?

Thank you in advance,

EDIT Svet: 
Hello

Nope, its not complicated. I also can assist you with remote if needs for the 1st time.
 

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Hey Svet,

Just wanted to update on my experience with your tool. It was simply fantastic and works exactly how I have expected it to. And you were right, the process was not difficult at all!

I highly recommend anyone who owns an MSI GS60 and still has not gotten this tool to jump on it, it makes your laptop's fans so much quieter and consistent. And Svet is super helpful and responds very quickly.

I have a few questions however:

1) On the fan curves, there were multiple rows of "CPU" and "GPU" (ie. row 1 was CPU and row 3 was also CPU), what is the difference?


2) I am trying to fine-tune my curve to perfection, is it bad to keep flashing your EC over and over?


EDIT Svet:

1) On the fan curves, there were multiple rows of "CPU" and "GPU" (ie. row 1 was CPU and row 3 was also CPU), what is the difference?
see here: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=148273.msg1443679#msg1443679
for your case based on research, then 1st rows set are used inside OS,
2nd one rows set are used outside OS.

2) I am trying to fine-tune my curve to perfection, is it bad to keep flashing your EC over and over?
Nope, in modern times the flash chip has a milion+ times of rewrites from that point this is not issue.
But always be carefully before reflashing,
by closing all not nececery programs, disable any resident scanners such as antiviruses to avoid flash interuption.
As reflashing any firmwares is risky by its nature. 
 

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Svet,

First of all thank you for this awesome tool!

I have a few questions. When I set my core clocks with your tool it doesn't seem to be setting the number 2 clock correctly. I told the tool to set the VBIOS essential domain 2 clock to 1291 which it shows in the tool and the number 1 spot to 1380 which it shows as such in the tool but when I flash the BIOS  I'm only getting 1205 still. I looked at the BIOS file to see what was and wasn't written correctly and I see that the 3d base clock is 1205 still and the TDP entry has been changed to 1291...

I also noticed that even though I set everything to thew above mentioned the card without touching anything with afterburner or even having it open only clocks itself to 1316 tops under load. If I give it more voltage using afterburner 4.2.0 it still doesn't go to 1455 which is what I set the booststate to or even go to 1390 which is what I set the boost too.


I also noticed that even though I told the voltage tuner to set the voltage table up at 1.250 volts max when I look at it in the BIOS editor it still goes up tp 1.281 at the last entry 74 I believe is the last entry, which is what the default table shows before editing the BIOS at all. I did notice that some of the sliders moved which is what I expected to see and the card does act a heck of a lot more stable now that I have tweaked the BIOS using your tool but I think some things might not be getting tweeaked correctly when it comes to this specific card. I have the MSI lightning by the way.

Also possibly worth noting is that I am using the stock cooler that comes with this card. I am not, using water cooling nor do I plan to.


One other question, if I tell this thing to set the voltages to 1.25 via BIOS shouldn't it boot at that and not 1.20v? I'm noticing that no matter what it boots at 1.20v.

Tell me what you think and again thank you!

I can upload the images if need be no problem just tell me what you need.

EDIT Svet:
Hello

More info is need, Check PM for queiries/assistance.
 

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Ok, got a GTX460M in my MSI/mediaon x6811 notebook. Would like to tune the bios so that fan speed gets quieter while browsing. How can I get the software. I hear it's donationware, right? Just registered but cannot send SVET a PM. Guess that's locked for new users...

EDIT Svet: Hello
All details are in the 1st topic.


Ok, got a GTX460M in my MSI/mediaon x6811 notebook. 
Be sure that this OEM model is supported, check PM for double check if you need.
 

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Version has been updated  [3.05z==>3.07b]:

Changes:

* Update MSI EC-FW Editor:
    -Fixed bug: Unable to validate Skylake's ECs properly under specified rare conditions.
  :Add support for:
    -GS40 6QE PHANTOM
    -GT72S 6QF DRAGON EDITION 29TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION
    -GT72S 6QF DOMINATOR PRO G 29TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION
    -GT72S 6QF DOMINATOR PRO G HEROES SPECIAL EDITION
    -GT72S 6QF DOMINATOR PRO HEROES SPECIAL EDITION
    -GT80S 6QF TITAN SLI 29TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION
    -GT80S 6QD TITAN SLI
    -GT80S 6QE TITAN SLI
    -GT80S 6QD TITAN SLI HEROES SPECIAL EDITION
    -GT80S 6QE TITAN SLI HEROES SPECIAL EDITION
    -GT80S 6QF TITAN SLI HEROES SPECIAL EDITION
    -GE72 6QF APACHE PRO
    -CR62 2M
    -CX62 2QD
    -GP62 2QE LEOPARD PRO
    -GP62 2QD LEOPARD
    -GP72 2QE LEOPARD PRO
    -GP72 2QD LEOPARD
 

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This may have been answered in another post, but I couldn't find it -- is it possible to just get the EC-FW without the vBIOS?  I'm not really sure I want to flash a new bios, but do want to be able to control the fans.  

Thanks.

EDIT Svet:  Not possible, the tool's features are added and expanded over the time. There will be not dividers for supported features.
 

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Hi Svet,
I have been reading through this thread while awaiting delivery of my GT72S 6QF Dominator Pro G 29th Anniversary NB. I see that Fan Adjustment is supported for this machine. I think I also noticed that vBIOS modification for my machine (and all Skylakes) are not supported by your tool. My question is, will there be support for this coming or, is it that your tool is not capable of modifying the vBIOS for some reason?

Thanks, and great tool from what I've read so far. Hoping my machine is/will be fully-supported

EDIT Svet: Hello
The vbios modifications for 9xx mobile series are not supported for modification.


My question is, will there be support for this coming or, is it that your tool is not capable of modifying the vBIOS for some reason?
It's not planned for now, assume it as no.
But they can be added in a future eventually, will see.
 

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What about support for 970M?

EDIT Svet: For vbios modification not supported.
For GPU temp curve/fan % curve yes via EC tuner yes.
 

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dondi date=1449198847 said:
Hi Svet, I have been reading through this thread while awaiting delivery of my GT72S 6QF Dominator Pro G 29th Anniversary NB. I see that Fan Adjustment is supported for this machine. I think I also noticed that vBIOS modification for my machine (and all Skylakes) are not supported by your tool. My question is, will there be support for this coming or, is it that your tool is not capable of modifying the vBIOS for some reason? Thanks, and great tool from what I've read so far. Hoping my machine is/will be fully-supported
EDIT Svet: Hello The vbios modifications for 9xx mobile series are not supported for modification.
It's not planned for now, assume it as no.
But they can be added in a future eventually, will see.
I am going to guess that your answer will be the same, but I figure that I'd ask anyways. The GT72S Dominator Pro G Anniversary Edition has a GTX 980 desktop-grade video card. It is a non-M version. Your answer specifies "mobile series". Just wondering if this makes any difference regarding vBIOS compatibility, or future compatibility?
I have a feeling you will be seeing more requests for the 9xx series very soon from holiday gaming laptop purchases

EDIT Svet: When you have this unit you can send me this desktop vbios to take a look for further options.
Check PM for details
 

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Hi Svet,

I donated and updated my EC fan profile for my GS40. Now I am having a very strange problem. When my computer starts to heat up and the fans spin up (mostly gaming), airplane mode turns ON and OFF. Constantly...

Here is a youtube video my computer when this happens:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1tsQvAropo

Very strange problem that I did not have prior to updating the fan profile.

I've tried reverting back to a normal EC profile but it is not solving the problem. Is reverting back to a previous version even possible?

Thanks



EDIT Svet:
Let me take look, but this probably has no connection with modification.
Check PM for queries.
 
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