System Unstable with BIOS 1.2.0.6 and 1.2.0.7 Trouble booting to windows with XMP Enabled

[samuel.perron42129502af]

Hi, just 2 days ago I updated my bios version on my board to the one in the title.

After doing so all was good and my system booted up just fine.
Although the next morning I went to open up my PC and got greeted by a windows error message about missing kernel files or something like that. Tried to boot into recovery mode but it couldn't do such thing.

My first thought was reinstalling windows which I did but same thing.
Next thought was just resetting the CMOS battery and that fixed it, but only temporary.
Once I renabled my XMP profile in the bios it went back to the same error after rebooting once. (So rebooting the PC after getting in windows with the XMP profile on).

So I started to do runs of memtest86 to see if it could actually give me errors and it did but only with XMP on, without XMP I did a run of 4 passes without a single error. With XMP on the count was around 86 or so I believe.

So from there, I thought my memory was bad, but it occured to me that all of this really started with this bios update.
I did a flashback bios downgrade to the first version of my board,( 7D53v10 ). From there windows was all up and working again and a full run of 4 passes again with XMP enabled got no errors at all.

I'm simply here to inform MSI of the issue, and hopefully you guys can reproduce and find a fix if there is really one. I'm willing to try some stuff out if you need help.

Here is all my PC info:

Board: MPG X570S EDGE MAX WIFI
BIOS: 7D53v10 (Tried to upgrade to 7D53V124)
VGA: Asus RTX 3080 White edition LHR
PSU: EVGA PW 1200W PSU
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3900x
MEM: 4x8GB, 3600MHz G.Skill Trident Z F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC
HDD/SSD: 1 1TB Samsung 980 Pro and 1 1TB Western Digital SN 750
COOLER: EK AIO 360mm
Keyboard: Steelseries Apex Pro, USB
Mouse: Steelseries Aerox 3 Wireless, USB dongle
OC: XMP profile 3600mhz, 1.350v and 16-19-19-39
OS: Windows 11 Professional

 

[samuel.perron42129502af]

Forgot to add the kernel error pic here.

 

[SumGuy]

I'm having the same issues with an X470 board.
My board doesn't have flashback, so I haven't gone back to the previous BIOS. I'm fine with temporarily running my RAM at lower speeds until they fix it.

- X470 Gaming Plus MAX
- BIOS - 7B79vHE (AGESA v1.2.0.6C)
- Ryzen 3900X
- GTX 970
- Corsair RM850 PSU
- WD BLACK SN750 NVMe SSD (1-TB)
- Two WD BLACK SERIES HDD's (1-TB)
- G.Skill Ripjaws V - (F4-3200C16D-64GVK)
64GB (2x32GB) DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V

 

[phill.f]

Hi,
I have a similar issue with my X570 gaming Plus...i had no problems until Bios AF (And the next AG...) now if i use memory at 2400 MHz no issues, if i turn on XMP to 3200 Mhz it boot after entering Bios, but if i reboot or shut down windows 11 i will get BSOD. I have to enter bios again to boot.
With no XMP everything works.
I have the same config till the befinning, so seems to be the BIOS

Board: MPG X570 Gaming Plus
BIOS: 7C37vAG (same with 7C37vAF)
VGA: Sapphire RX570
PSU: EVGA 650W PSU
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3900X
MEM: 4x8GB, HyperX Predator HX430C15PB3K2/16 3200 Mhz
HDD/SSD: 512 Gb Sabrent Rocket 4.0, 512 GB Samsung 970 Evo+, 1 TB Barracuda HDD
COOLER: DeepCool AIO 240mm
Keyboard: Cooler Master Devastator 3
Mouse: Cooler Master Devastator 3
OC: XMP profile 1 3200mhz, 1.350v and 16-18-18-36
OS: Windows 11 Professional

 

[mzakrzewsk157402df]

Hi, just 2 days ago I updated my bios version on my board to the one in the title.

After doing so all was good and my system booted up just fine.
Although the next morning I went to open up my PC and got greeted by a windows error message about missing kernel files or something like that. Tried to boot into recovery mode but it couldn't do such thing.

My first thought was reinstalling windows which I did but same thing.
Next thought was just resetting the CMOS battery and that fixed it, but only temporary.
Once I renabled my XMP profile in the bios it went back to the same error after rebooting once. (So rebooting the PC after getting in windows with the XMP profile on).

So I started to do runs of memtest86 to see if it could actually give me errors and it did but only with XMP on, without XMP I did a run of 4 passes without a single error. With XMP on the count was around 86 or so I believe.

So from there, I thought my memory was bad, but it occured to me that all of this really started with this bios update.
I did a flashback bios downgrade to the first version of my board,( 7D53v10 ). From there windows was all up and working again and a full run of 4 passes again with XMP enabled got no errors at all.

I'm simply here to inform MSI of the issue, and hopefully you guys can reproduce and find a fix if there is really one. I'm willing to try some stuff out if you need help.

Here is all my PC info:

Board: MPG X570S EDGE MAX WIFI
BIOS: 7D53v10 (Tried to upgrade to 7D53V124)
VGA: Asus RTX 3080 White edition LHR
PSU: EVGA PW 1200W PSU
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3900x
MEM: 4x8GB, 3600MHz G.Skill Trident Z F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC
HDD/SSD: 1 1TB Samsung 980 Pro and 1 1TB Western Digital SN 750
COOLER: EK AIO 360mm
Keyboard: Steelseries Apex Pro, USB
Mouse: Steelseries Aerox 3 Wireless, USB dongle
OC: XMP profile 3600mhz, 1.350v and 16-19-19-39
OS: Windows 11 Professional

Have you tried with only two sticks of RAM installed, i.e. in DIMMA2 and DIMMB2?
A friend of mine had the exact same problem on one of the B550 boards. Seems the latest beta UEFIs released by MSI could be too much to handle with four sticks of RAM.,,

 

[Alan J T]

Hi,
I have a similar issue with my X570 gaming Plus...i had no problems until Bios AF (And the next AG...) now if i use memory at 2400 MHz no issues, if i turn on XMP to 3200 Mhz it boot after entering Bios, but if i reboot or shut down windows 11 i will get BSOD. I have to enter bios again to boot.
With no XMP everything works.
I have the same config till the befinning, so seems to be the BIOS

Board: MPG X570 Gaming Plus
BIOS: 7C37vAG (same with 7C37vAF)
VGA: Sapphire RX570
PSU: EVGA 650W PSU
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3900X
MEM: 4x8GB, HyperX Predator HX430C15PB3K2/16 3200 Mhz
HDD/SSD: 512 Gb Sabrent Rocket 4.0, 512 GB Samsung 970 Evo+, 1 TB Barracuda HDD
COOLER: DeepCool AIO 240mm
Keyboard: Cooler Master Devastator 3
Mouse: Cooler Master Devastator 3
OC: XMP profile 1 3200mhz, 1.350v and 16-18-18-36
OS: Windows 11 Professional

I'm having the same issues with an X470 board.
My board doesn't have flashback, so I haven't gone back to the previous BIOS. I'm fine with temporarily running my RAM at lower speeds until they fix it.

- X470 Gaming Plus MAX
- BIOS - 7B79vHE (AGESA v1.2.0.6C)
- Ryzen 3900X
- GTX 970
- Corsair RM850 PSU
- WD BLACK SN750 NVMe SSD (1-TB)
- Two WD BLACK SERIES HDD's (1-TB)
- G.Skill Ripjaws V - (F4-3200C16D-64GVK)
64GB (2x32GB) DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V

Hi, just 2 days ago I updated my bios version on my board to the one in the title.

After doing so all was good and my system booted up just fine.
Although the next morning I went to open up my PC and got greeted by a windows error message about missing kernel files or something like that. Tried to boot into recovery mode but it couldn't do such thing.

My first thought was reinstalling windows which I did but same thing.
Next thought was just resetting the CMOS battery and that fixed it, but only temporary.
Once I renabled my XMP profile in the bios it went back to the same error after rebooting once. (So rebooting the PC after getting in windows with the XMP profile on).

So I started to do runs of memtest86 to see if it could actually give me errors and it did but only with XMP on, without XMP I did a run of 4 passes without a single error. With XMP on the count was around 86 or so I believe.

So from there, I thought my memory was bad, but it occured to me that all of this really started with this bios update.
I did a flashback bios downgrade to the first version of my board,( 7D53v10 ). From there windows was all up and working again and a full run of 4 passes again with XMP enabled got no errors at all.

I'm simply here to inform MSI of the issue, and hopefully you guys can reproduce and find a fix if there is really one. I'm willing to try some stuff out if you need help.

Here is all my PC info:

Board: MPG X570S EDGE MAX WIFI
BIOS: 7D53v10 (Tried to upgrade to 7D53V124)
VGA: Asus RTX 3080 White edition LHR
PSU: EVGA PW 1200W PSU
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3900x
MEM: 4x8GB, 3600MHz G.Skill Trident Z F4-3600C16D-16GTZNC
HDD/SSD: 1 1TB Samsung 980 Pro and 1 1TB Western Digital SN 750
COOLER: EK AIO 360mm
Keyboard: Steelseries Apex Pro, USB
Mouse: Steelseries Aerox 3 Wireless, USB dongle
OC: XMP profile 3600mhz, 1.350v and 16-19-19-39
OS: Windows 11 Professional

Try setting ram Frequency and Main Timings manually and try D Ram Voltage at 1.370 to 1.390

You can also roll back to BIOS 1.2.0.3 you can get from MSI or from here the Moderators BIOS collection page MSI Moderator Tools and BIOS Site

 

[phill.f]

Hi,

I've tried not to active XMP and to set manually timings and 3200 Mhz, 1,368 V but nothing changes, maybe i can try a little overvolt

I have to try with just 2 stick of RAM instead of 4
I hope i can fix it with out rollback, but if it will be the only solution i will have no chance

I will let you know...

P.s. if i enter the BIOS, active XMP and F10 to save and exit, the system boot and works normally, i've done memtest and play several minutes and i got no errors or BSOD. But if i restart or shutdown again that blue screen with error and recovery

 

[Alan J T]

Hi,

I've tried not to active XMP and to set manually timings and 3200 Mhz, 1,368 V but nothing changes, maybe i can try a little overvolt

I have to try with just 2 stick of RAM instead of 4
I hope i can fix it with out rollback, but if it will be the only solution i will have no chance

I will let you know...

P.s. if i enter the BIOS, active XMP and F10 to save and exit, the system boot and works normally, i've done memtest and play several minutes and i got no errors or BSOD. But if i restart or shutdown again that blue screen with error and recovery

I'm having the same issues with an X470 board.
My board doesn't have flashback, so I haven't gone back to the previous BIOS. I'm fine with temporarily running my RAM at lower speeds until they fix it.

- X470 Gaming Plus MAX
- BIOS - 7B79vHE (AGESA v1.2.0.6C)
- Ryzen 3900X
- GTX 970
- Corsair RM850 PSU
- WD BLACK SN750 NVMe SSD (1-TB)
- Two WD BLACK SERIES HDD's (1-TB)
- G.Skill Ripjaws V - (F4-3200C16D-64GVK)
64GB (2x32GB) DDR4-3200 CL16-18-18-38 1.35V

Forgot to add the kernel error pic here.

Are all you guys on WIN 11

 

[mzakrzewsk157402df]

My friend now is, but the problem first appeared on Windows 10.

 

[SumGuy]

I'm still on Win 10 pro.

 

[Alan J T]

So may need to set MEM in BIOS you may also need to select Gear Down mode
I do not use A-XMP and I don't have the same problems you are getting
Phil and SamGuy should be able to use setting I use for RAM
D-Ram Voltage can be set between 1.350v and 1.400v start low and work up in 0.010v steps
samuel Will have to Modify to suit his RAM should be MEM at 3600 Fabric at 1800 and Timing as on your ram with GearDown selected
tRC is tRP + tRAS

 

[phill.f]

hi,

thanks for all reply, i'm runnig Win 11 Pro, now there is a new Beta AH1...i will try with this new Bios than to set timings manually (as i already done) ant try to step up the Voltage

 

[phill.f]

well,

seems clear the problem is on the BIOS, if i boot, enter BIOS and exit (even without changing anything...) everything works perfectly, but when i reboot or shutdown, blue screen and recovery...
i've done any kind of benchmarks, stress test, gaming...no problem until i reboot...

same if i simply activate the A-XMP as always.

hope this will fix with the new Bios

 

[hookerja156c02e4]

Hi,

I've tried not to active XMP and to set manually timings and 3200 Mhz, 1,368 V but nothing changes, maybe i can try a little overvolt

I have to try with just 2 stick of RAM instead of 4
I hope i can fix it with out rollback, but if it will be the only solution i will have no chance

I will let you know...

P.s. if i enter the BIOS, active XMP and F10 to save and exit, the system boot and works normally, i've done memtest and play several minutes and i got no errors or BSOD. But if i restart or shutdown again that blue screen with error and recovery

What happens if you disable "Fast Startup" in Power Options?

 

[Alan J T]

well,

seems clear the problem is on the BIOS, if i boot, enter BIOS and exit (even without changing anything...) everything works perfectly, but when i reboot or shutdown, blue screen and recovery...
i've done any kind of benchmarks, stress test, gaming...no problem until i reboot...

same if i simply activate the A-XMP as always.

hope this will fix with the new Bios

Can you try with Memory settings' with all but primary timings on AUTO same as the Screenshots I provided.

 

[Alan J T]

@SumGuy
@phill.f
@samuel.perron42129502af

Can you pleas supply a picture of you memory stickers you can cover the serial if you want to
like this example of one of my MEM sticks

Thanks when I get them I will pass on to a Contact to have a look.

 

[phill.f]

Sure,

as soon as possible i will post the pictures

I have to try by disabling Fast boot on Win 11...i will let you know

Can you try with Memory settings' with all but primary timings on AUTO same as the Screenshots I provided.

Done, same issue

P.S. By the Way i had no issues untile AF0 and AG0 Version...nothing changed on Hardware

 

[samuel.perron42129502af]

Here's the listing to the exact sticks I bought, https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232859?Item=N82E16820232859

Should have all the info can't really take a pic of my sticks rn, not at home
Bought two of those so 4x8gb

 

[Alan J T]

Here's the listing to the exact sticks I bought, https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232859?Item=N82E16820232859

Should have all the info can't really take a pic of my sticks rn, not at home
Bought two of those so 4x8gb

Sticker picks are better as it give Manufacture date, if single or Dual Rank and type of memory chip use Like Samsung or Micron and class of memory chip Like Samsung D or Samsung C

As each batch of same model my use a Different Type of chip from a different manufacture and that info is only on the memory sticker on mine it is the number that is under the VOID if Removed and the batch date is generally in the first half of serial number like 2033 at start of mine is like 2020 Week 33

 

[samuel.perron42129502af]

Here you go, accidently covered the whole serial number realized after I put the sticks back in, but I still see it the beginning is "2031" for all sticks.

And both kits are matched together in the same slots.

So my kit that ends with 97/98 is in slot a2/b2.
and the other one ends with 46/47 is in slot a1/b1.