Unacceptable fan whine/whistle noise

Airikir

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Bought the MSI GS-76 Stealth and the fans have a very loud whistling or whining noise no matter which speed they operate on.
Changing the settings in Dragon Center so that they are not active at all until temperature for CPU reaches above 70 degrees helps to keep it silent when not playing games.
It depends on the CPU load and sometimes the CPU fan needs to start even without playing any game.
When just browsing or watching movies usually the fan is not needed with the settings to only activate them above 70 degrees.
But when the fans activate I have to increase the sound to 30% to not having to hear that high pitched sound like you have tinnitus in your ear.
While gaming I always use headset so it is not a problem, but for a laptop I payed more than 3000 dollars for I expected better quality.
You shouldn´t be expected to use headphones all the time to use a laptop..

My previous Titan had larger fans and a larger casing which helps with cooling and I am not disturbed by the low pitched wind noise from the fans even when operating at high rpms, it is this constant high pitch whining that causes headache.

I have attached a sound files so you can hear for yourself.

Is this normal?
you have to put the volume up a lot since I recorded it with my mobile phone.
MSI GS76 STEALTH 11UG-473NEU - YouTube

I wish the Titan series still existed due to the better cooling with larger fans that doesn´t make so high pitch sounds.
I would have bought one of those Titan versions instead in that case to replace my old Titan but they dot seem to be available for purchase anymore.
 

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The sound experience is very subjective and sensitive. That sound to me doesn't really bother me, but yeah I can see what you're trying to tell here.
 

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Bought the MSI GS-76 Stealth and the fans have a very loud whistling or whining noise no matter which speed they operate on.
Changing the settings in Dragon Center so that they are not active at all until temperature for CPU reaches above 70 degrees helps to keep it silent when not playing games.
It depends on the CPU load and sometimes the CPU fan needs to start even without playing any game.
When just browsing or watching movies usually the fan is not needed with the settings to only activate them above 70 degrees.
But when the fans activate I have to increase the sound to 30% to not having to hear that high pitched sound like you have tinnitus in your ear.
While gaming I always use headset so it is not a problem, but for a laptop I payed more than 3000 dollars for I expected better quality.
You shouldn´t be expected to use headphones all the time to use a laptop..

My previous Titan had larger fans and a larger casing which helps with cooling and I am not disturbed by the low pitched wind noise from the fans even when operating at high rpms, it is this constant high pitch whining that causes headache.

I have attached a sound files so you can hear for yourself.

Is this normal?
you have to put the volume up a lot since I recorded it with my mobile phone.
MSI GS76 STEALTH 11UG-473NEU - YouTube

I wish the Titan series still existed due to the better cooling with larger fans that doesn´t make so high pitch sounds.
I would have bought one of those Titan versions instead in that case to replace my old Titan but they dot seem to be available for purchase anymore.
Well when you buy a thin laptop with a powerful and the most heat generating CPU and combine it with a powerful GPU, you have to generate more airflow to keep it cool, you might have considered a thicker laptop with less powerful CPU if you wanted a more silent laptop. You can always disable the TURBO by setting CPU to 99% in your power plan, when you're not gaming.
 

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Yeah it´s like listening to constant tinnitus for me.

I downloaded Dragon center and changed the fan speeds to a constant 10% speed on the lowest temperature level when the laptop is powered on to avoid that huge spin-up sound when it starts from silent which it does in regular intervals and the other fan speed temperature levels I put to 20% and the highest temperature level I increased from 80% to 100%.
Same for CPU and GPU except for GPU I increased the second highest temperature level to 40% I think.
With that setting the laptop is very quiet except when gaming.

As I said unfortunately I can't stand that high pitch sound that is not from the air flow itself.
I use my headset for gaming anyway luckily, which I anyway did for the old Titan laptop also.

These laptops get extremely hot so I am thinking of buying a cooling pad for it.
I had a look at these:
PC Cooling | Cooler Master
 

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Yeah it´s like listening to constant tinnitus for me.

I downloaded Dragon center and changed the fan speeds to a constant 10% speed on the lowest temperature level when the laptop is powered on to avoid that huge spin-up sound when it starts from silent which it does in regular intervals and the other fan speed temperature levels I put to 20% and the highest temperature level I increased from 80% to 100%.
Same for CPU and GPU except for GPU I increased the second highest temperature level to 40% I think.
With that setting the laptop is very quiet except when gaming.

As I said unfortunately I can't stand that high pitch sound that is not from the air flow itself.
I use my headset for gaming anyway luckily, which I anyway did for the old Titan laptop also.

These laptops get extremely hot so I am thinking of buying a cooling pad for it.
I had a look at these:
PC Cooling | Cooler Master
This is why I like ThrottleStop so much, I can disable TURBO in a click on my P65 and PS63, I starting using this APP after my purchase of my GS65.
My GS65 was really annoying and the temps just totally unacceptable, but now I just love gaming on it with headphones of course, for the whine when on COOLER BOOST.
My P65 was even more annoying, it would hit the 90s just when updating, the PL1 & PL2 way too high, but now even if I mostly work with it, the occasional game is satisfying.


 

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I have a whiny fan in my Modern14. For the first two years the laptop was as quiet as most laptops, but a couple weeks ago the fan started ticking and whining. I sent the laptop to MSI to repair the fan, it was still under warranty, well they sent the laptop back to me with a supposedly repaired fan but the laptop still loudly makes whining noises out of that fan. As other posters mentioned, it's like a tinnitus sound, I'd add there's an element of constant cicada noise coming from the fan in addition. I can't even block it out with headphones. MSI must be using some of the worst junk fans on the planet, or the people who work there don't care about how noisy their laptops are and didn't actually do anything to repair my laptop. Maybe they hire deaf people to do fan noise checks, I'm not sure. I used to recommend MSI laptops because they were one of the only laptop manufacturers producing a half-way decent keyboard layout, but I can't recommend MSI laptops anymore after the crappy fan problems. It's physically damaging my hearing to listen to the laptop now as I'm writing this. Unfortunately they also designed the laptop to use a proprietary fan that comes built in with cooling fins, making a replacement expensive. The latest fan price online is around $80. It sucks that the designers were too stupid to separate the fan from the cooling block. Way to go MSI.
 

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I also am enjoying the high pitch fan noise. It sounds more like a Dentist drill.
This is why I like ThrottleStop so much, I can disable TURBO in a click on my P65 and PS63, I starting using this APP after my purchase of my GS65.
My GS65 was really annoying and the temps just totally unacceptable, but now I just love gaming on it with headphones of course, for the whine when on COOLER BOOST.
My P65 was even more annoying, it would hit the 90s just when updating, the PL1 & PL2 way too high, but now even if I mostly work with it, the occasional game is satisfying.


I also am presently enjoying the high pitch fan noise on a brand new MSI gf76 Katana. It sounds more like a Dentist drill. Surely there has to be something out of whack with a fan to make a noise like that. The ThrottleStop you mention - does it actually stop the noise?
 

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I also am enjoying the high pitch fan noise. It sounds more like a Dentist drill.


I also am presently enjoying the high pitch fan noise on a brand new MSI gf76 Katana. It sounds more like a Dentist drill. Surely there has to be something out of whack with a fan to make a noise like that. The ThrottleStop you mention - does it actually stop the noise?
No it will not, but it might help how fast, high and often they spin.
 

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What are the side effects if any?
Just make sure to follow the guide before changing anything.
If you do, then you will have a much better control of CPU, helps to tame a wild stallion that thin laptops can be.
No need to have the TURBO go to maximum when on battery or surfing the net.
The TURBO is the main cause of heat and thermal throttling, better to have it at temps that are adequate.
My P65 was set PL1@65W and PL2 100W, insane, corrected this to 43W/48W, if I only use it for work 40W/43W.

 
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Very good drek! Thank you so much for taking time to bring me up to snuff on this. Have you ever heard of anyone damaging the cpu because of a program like this?
 
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Very good drek! Thank you so much for taking time to bring me up to snuff on this. Have you ever heard of anyone damaging the cpu because of a program like this?
Not that I know of, it could be possible in theory, but you would have to really screw everything up in the parameters.
I know a lot more that actually improved longevity of their CPU, by having a better control on temperatures and CPU turbo usage.
Overclocking and over voltage, would be the main culprit of CPU damage.
 

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Ok, well thank you again for pointing this out and clarifying things. Being a less than a novice, I'll move forward like a little herd of enthusiastic turtles.
 

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Well when you buy a thin laptop with a powerful and the most heat generating CPU and combine it with a powerful GPU, you have to generate more airflow to keep it cool, you might have considered a thicker laptop with less powerful CPU if you wanted a more silent laptop. You can always disable the TURBO by setting CPU to 99% in your power plan, when you're not gaming.
That so called fix is a farce. It simply doesn't do anything to quiet the fans!
 

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With MSI Center opened, Fan 1 is at this point 2296 and Fan 2 is 2594. Burt closing it down, the fans stopped revving. So it's difficult for me to get an accurate reading at this point where the fans are turning when something else kicks them into gear.
For instance, things will be quiet for a while then with MSI Center closed, TaskManager will show Edge or Outlook using 7 to 12% cpu, not steady but up and down. Opening a new tab in Edge will 'sometimes' send the fan revving (whining) for a few seconds then it stops. I've just opened MSI Center and Fan 1 is showing 2296 whereas Fan 2 is 0.
As stated earlier on this thread, these so called fixes might work for some but they definitely do absolute zero on this end. When you hear your fans kick in, do you hear any whining sound at all, lor just the sound of normal fan usage, such as a 'swoosh' sound.
 

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With MSI Center opened, Fan 1 is at this point 2296 and Fan 2 is 2594. Burt closing it down, the fans stopped revving. So it's difficult for me to get an accurate reading at this point where the fans are turning when something else kicks them into gear.
For instance, things will be quiet for a while then with MSI Center closed, TaskManager will show Edge or Outlook using 7 to 12% cpu, not steady but up and down. Opening a new tab in Edge will 'sometimes' send the fan revving (whining) for a few seconds then it stops. I've just opened MSI Center and Fan 1 is showing 2296 whereas Fan 2 is 0.
As stated earlier on this thread, these so called fixes might work for some but they definitely do absolute zero on this end. When you hear your fans kick in, do you hear any whining sound at all, lor just the sound of normal fan usage, such as a 'swoosh' sound.
That is odd, because the fan speeds seem to be normal.
I know that I always make sure both fans are in function, because if I only activate one only(CPU), it will have a tendency to spike then settle down again constantly.
(THIN laptops only)(I also make a gradual curve for when I don't game, to avoid any spike in fan speed)
When you put the value between 70-99%, did you visualize if the TURBO kicks in or not?
By using HW Monitor, more user friendly or HWinfo, more detailed, you can see this and everything else about your laptop hardware
If it stays under TURBO values, then it's more a case of EC RESET or BIOS Update, or your ears are very sensitive.


 

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The only place I can see to do a curve is in the Extreme Performance and that sends the flans screaming, no matter where I put the curve. I've tried flatlining all of them out of desperation but the high pitched fan noise still is there when it spikes. As to seeing if Turbo kicks in or not, there is no way I can see or know that at this point. The EC Reset did nothing last time I tried that. I would like to update the BIOS but apart from you or someone else leading me through that step by step, it's almost to scary for me to attempt.
It's too bad MSI didn't to their BIOS updates the same way (dare I ever mention it here) ASUS does... just clicking on the link and automatically doing it without a novice such as I tearing into the BIOS setup.
 

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Here's what I'm considering to attempt. I'll try to update the BIOS. I've downloaded the BIOS update and here's what it looks like in the Folder. My question is this: when I select the File to use for the BIOS update, do I select this Folder in the picture - seen as E17L31MS.10A(1)... or




OR rather, the one shown after I double click on E17L31MS.10A(1) which is the following...



Your advice will be appreciated!

((screenshots removed per request))
 
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