Upgrading your Trident 3

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Hi all,

Since there are so many posts about this topic I thought it would be nice to have somewhat of an overview.

Let me start by saying that upgrading your Trident 3 (whatever Gen) is possible. BUT, there is a catch: it depends on what kind of motherboard and power supply you are using.
Trident 3 now comes in 7 versions:

VersionsChipsetPCB versionsBIOS version(s)PowerProduct page
7th Gen H1101.0/2.1520/A20230Whttps://www.msi.com/Desktop/support/Trident-3
7th Gen ArcticH1102.1A20230Whttps://www.msi.com/Desktop/support/Trident-3-Arctic
8th GenH3101.0/2.1840230/330Whttps://www.msi.com/Desktop/support/Trident-3-8th
8th Gen ArcticH310?840230/330Whttps://www.msi.com/Desktop/support/Trident-3-Arctic-8th
9th GenH310?950230/330Whttps://www.msi.com/Desktop/support/Trident-3-9th
9th Gen ArcticH310?950230/330Whttps://www.msi.com/Desktop/support/Trident-3-Arctic-9th
10th GenH410?800230/330Whttps://www.msi.com/Desktop/support/MPG-Trident-3-10th
Note: This data comes from the datasheets on the specification page within the product page. You can find them in the attachments.

Here is an overview of posts with tested upgrades:
Trident GenWhat's tested?Working?Link
7th GenI7 7700+GTX1060 3G+230w power supply. Two friends with same model but difference in PCB version (1.0 and 2.1). Version 1.0 tries upgrade 1070 GTX (NOT WORKING with 230W and 330W), version 2.1 tries 1080 GTX (WORKING with 330W)NO/YEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/316727
7th Gen1TB M.2 SSD, GTX1070 Aero 8GB OC graphics cardYEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/333227
7th Geni7-7700 upgraded with Nvidia RTX 2060-6GB and Samsung 970 Evo NVMe PCIe M.2 250GB with 230W using Throttlestop, later 330W without Throttlestop and with Afterburner. NOTE: PCB version 2.1 and BIOS A20YEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/313929
8th GenUpgraded with ASUS PHOENIX 1660 SUPER (also noted that 1660 Ti works)YEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/327434
7th Geni5-7400 MSI GTX 1070 Aero using Afterburner and Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. NOTE: did not fit very good
YEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/298545
7th Geni7-7700 Gigabyte GTX1080 Mini ITX using AfterburnerYEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/298545
7th Geni7-7700 Arctic version GTX 1070 upgraded to Gigabyte RTX 2070 ITX versionYEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/298545
8th GenGIGABYTE GeForce GTX 1660 TiYEShttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/298545
7th Gen I7-7700+GTX1060 3G 230w power supply, upgraded to GTX1070 ITX (also tested with 330W)NOhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/298545
9th Geni7-9700f, 16gb of ram and nvme ssd and gtx 1660 ti with a 230w PSU upgraded to 2060 mini ITXNOhttps://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?threads/334433
The next question is: which Motherboards and GPU cards work with 230W without additional programs? Which work with 230W using Throttlestop and/or Afterburner? And which work only with 330W?

I have to work now so I'm posting this now, will update this later on.
Feel free to suggest an improvements!

Lion
 

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shuny11r2154402d7 said:
Hi! I’m new to the PC World.
I recently bought an MSI 8th Gen Trident 3 Artic

came with an i7-8700 and GTX 1070.

it has a 330w power supply.
Now I checked the Model and it’s a H310 ver 1.0.

Can I upgrade the GPU?? I’m to upgrade to a rtx 3060. But I checked the Compatibility in the previous page and there’s nothing on it. Doesn’t say if it can or cant.

just wondering if anyone Can shine some light to this.
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lukboy99 said:
I have the 7th gen, i7-7700, GTX 1070 and 330W powersupply. Wondering if I can upgrade to a 3060 or even 3060ti, can the 330W PSU handle? Anyone tried?
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in a nutshell NO it can not

GEFORCE RTX 3060 FAMILY
GEFORCE RTX 3060 TiGEFORCE RTX 3060
GPU Engine Specs:NVIDIA CUDA® Cores48643584
Boost Clock (GHz)1.671.78
Base Clock (GHz)1.411.32
Memory Specs:Standard Memory Config8 GB GDDR612 GB GDDR6
Memory Interface Width256-bit192-bit
Technology Support:Ray Tracing Cores2nd Generation2nd Generation
Tensor Cores3rd Generation3rd Generation
NVIDIA ArchitectureAmpereAmpere
Microsoft DirectX® 12 UltimateYesYes
NVIDIA DLSSYesYes
NVIDIA ReflexYesYes
NVIDIA BroadcastYesYes
PCI Express Gen 4YesYes
Resizable BARYesYes
NVIDIA® GeForce Experience™YesYes
NVIDIA AnselYesYes
NVIDIA FreeStyleYesYes
NVIDIA ShadowPlayYesYes
NVIDIA HighlightsYesYes
NVIDIA G-SYNC®YesYes
Game Ready DriversYesYes
NVIDIA Studio DriversYesYes
NVIDIA GPU Boost™YesYes
NVIDIA NVLink™ (SLI-Ready)--
Vulkan RT API, OpenGL 4.6YesYes
HDMI 2.1YesYes
DisplayPort 1.4aYesYes
NVIDIA Encoder7th Generation7th Generation
NVIDIA Decoder5th Generation5th Generation
VR ReadyYesYes
Display Support:Maximum Digital Resolution (1)7680x43207680x4320
Standard Display ConnectorsHDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort 1.4a
Multi Monitor44
HDCP2.32.3
Card Dimensions:Length9.5" (242 mm)
Width4.4" (112 mm)
Slot2-Slot
Thermal and Power Specs:Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)9393
Graphics Card Power (W)200170
Required System Power (W) (2)600550
Supplementary Power Connectors1x PCIe 8-pin
(adapter to 1x 12-pin included)
 
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Hi ,I have trident 3 11th gen with 1.0 motherboard.
Pc came with gtx 1660 and 230 psu ,upgraded to rtx 3060 with 330 powersupply no problem. Msi tech support confirmed the version 1.0 mainboard can use 230w or 330w.
 
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barryrf157802db said:
Hi ,I have trident 3 11th gen with 1.0 motherboard.
Pc came with gtx 1660 and 230 psu ,upgraded to rtx 3060 with 330 powersupply no problem. Msi tech support confirmed the version 1.0 mainboard can use 230w or 330w.
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Can you tell me what Model rtx 3060 you used?? There’s so a few of them. I want to make sure I get one that actually works on it.
 
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Alan J T said:
in a nutshell NO it can not

GEFORCE RTX 3060 FAMILY
GEFORCE RTX 3060 TiGEFORCE RTX 3060
GPU Engine Specs:NVIDIA CUDA® Cores48643584
Boost Clock (GHz)1.671.78
Base Clock (GHz)1.411.32
Memory Specs:Standard Memory Config8 GB GDDR612 GB GDDR6
Memory Interface Width256-bit192-bit
Technology Support:Ray Tracing Cores2nd Generation2nd Generation
Tensor Cores3rd Generation3rd Generation
NVIDIA ArchitectureAmpereAmpere
Microsoft DirectX® 12 UltimateYesYes
NVIDIA DLSSYesYes
NVIDIA ReflexYesYes
NVIDIA BroadcastYesYes
PCI Express Gen 4YesYes
Resizable BARYesYes
NVIDIA® GeForce Experience™YesYes
NVIDIA AnselYesYes
NVIDIA FreeStyleYesYes
NVIDIA ShadowPlayYesYes
NVIDIA HighlightsYesYes
NVIDIA G-SYNC®YesYes
Game Ready DriversYesYes
NVIDIA Studio DriversYesYes
NVIDIA GPU Boost™YesYes
NVIDIA NVLink™ (SLI-Ready)--
Vulkan RT API, OpenGL 4.6YesYes
HDMI 2.1YesYes
DisplayPort 1.4aYesYes
NVIDIA Encoder7th Generation7th Generation
NVIDIA Decoder5th Generation5th Generation
VR ReadyYesYes
Display Support:Maximum Digital Resolution (1)7680x43207680x4320
Standard Display ConnectorsHDMI 2.1, 3x DisplayPort 1.4a
Multi Monitor44
HDCP2.32.3
Card Dimensions:Length9.5" (242 mm)
Width4.4" (112 mm)
Slot2-Slot
Thermal and Power Specs:Maximum GPU Temperature (in C)9393
Graphics Card Power (W)200170
Required System Power (W) (2)600550
Supplementary Power Connectors1x PCIe 8-pin
(adapter to 1x 12-pin included)
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Hey I’m here to report that I was able to upgrade my GTX 1070 8gb GPU to a RTX 3060 12gb. It’s from PNY. Probably not the Best Version but it fit and works just fine.
 
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shuny11r2154402d7 said:
Hey I’m here to report that I was able to upgrade my GTX 1070 8gb GPU to a RTX 3060 12gb. It’s from PNY. Probably not the Best Version but it fit and works just fine.
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I would advise to keep a eye on the 12v and 5v rails for a bit to make sure they not dropping to much under a full gaming load as to much variation in voltage may lead to hardware failure. There is a reason Nvidia have minimum power recommendations.
 
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Alan J T said:
I would advise to keep a eye on the 12v and 5v rails for a bit to make sure they not dropping to much under a full gaming load as to much variation in voltage may lead to hardware failure. There is a reason Nvidia have minimum power recommendations.
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I'm fairly new to the PC world. So I'm a bit lost. I really don't know what should I be looking at when keeping an eye on the "12v and 5v". I really appreciate the help tho.
 
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shuny11r2154402d7 said:
I'm fairly new to the PC world. So I'm a bit lost. I really don't know what should I be looking at when keeping an eye on the "12v and 5v". I really appreciate the help tho.
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IF you keep a App like Hwinfo64 running in the background as you game it will record the 12v and 5v levels there should only be a very minor different between the MAX and minimum less than 3% for hardware reliability and long life.

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any ideas about this? I upgrade my Trident 3 11th now with RTX 3060 OC (Aero ITX) and got a 330W power supply and it seems to work a while, but when I play after 5 minutes the pc shuts down completely. no errors just turns itself off. looks like not enough power to me. but even official MSI states that it should work with RTX 3060 and 330Watts :-(
 
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Had the same problem I bought a dell 330 with the laptop barrel connector same specs as the delta one so thought that would work ,soldered on the 4 pin connector cable from my 230 powersupply it was fine untill I ran a game then the pc would shutdown. Found the correct delta electronics 330 power supply on amazon it worked no problem no more shutdowns. So try another power supply.
 
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I already have Delta Electronics 330W power supply :-( but from some random china onlineshop that also looks quite "suspicious" :-D So i cant really say if its because of that :-( most of the games run fine though

i have this one:

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