URGENT PLEASE HELP!! Laptop won’t turn on after replacing CPU Fan

drek4 said:
Of course, but ripping open a laptop wrecklessly without taking care of googling, watching videos about your laptop for references and insuring to have knowledge prior to doing this.

I would never, ever, ever, remove a fan heatsink without having at hand the proper paste or thermal component to adequately repaste it.

You did every thing the wrong way, could be numerous things, slight scrap of your screwdriver, a screw that fell on the motherboard,
the heatsink touching a component on the motherboard, etc.

Do not assume, when you assume, you make an a s s out of u and me

If you shorted the motherboard, there is no fixing that, new motherboard or new laptop, the latter would be the better option.

Well if it is so important, show it the proper care and respect next time!
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i appreciate the reply, in response to this, i did take precautions and did the research prior to opening up the computer, i understood the risk of shorting the motherboard and components, i was performing the repair with care to not damage anything. The only reason im saying i assumed i didnt need to remove the battery is because i was informed that i didnt need to remove the battery to upgrade the ram and the SSD on the device and since the fan was only one small connector i thought it would be an easy plug and play solution, which i can see how it isnt ideal. The thermal paste isn’t ideal but i was lacking the funds to rebuy thermal paste so i believed using the preexisting thermal paste would work. I understand assuming is bad, i am new to these things and i still need to improve on my skills and preparation. I am interested in getting better at these things but have lacked much of the experience and teaching required, which caused me to try a hands on approach to all the technology i’ve worked on, with success all the way until today.
 
tristonwhite2152e02d5 said:
little amounts of documentation for this laptop
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tristonwhite2152e02d5 said:
a little disappointed to be getting all this criticism
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I'm not criticizing what you did, I'm criticizing how you did it.
I can now speak with many years experience. But I also learned it the hard way. Installing a cover for an extension slot in a running computer...
And then drop the screw... It was a 386 Tower and it did not survive. ;)
 
drek4 said:
He will have a short life in any job! ;)
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this is the criticism im speaking of, i understand i didnt take all the precautions to and could’ve caused an issue. And I’m grateful to hear that information and I’m interested to learn more to not make these mistakes again. But what’s the point of degrading somebody who is just trying to learn. It doesn’t make you look good and it doesn’t help me learn. I understand you have more experience than me and I’m trying to learn from it. Not everyone has 30+ years experience in their field. Everyone starts out somewhere. And as a second year computer science major I’m extremely interested in learning these things and improving my skills. I’m willing to make mistakes and learn. But if I see someone else make a mistake I’m not going to belittle them. I’m going to share my knowledge and hopefully prevent them from making that mistake in the future. And a lot of these ideas aren’t common knowledge for everyone. And spreading negative criticism and judging others for not knowing is only going to widen the gap between the people on your level of knowledge and the people who are striving to get there
 
tristonwhite2152e02d5 said:
this is the criticism im speaking of, i understand i didnt take all the precautions to and could’ve caused an issue. And I’m grateful to hear that information and I’m interested to learn more to not make these mistakes again. But what’s the point of degrading somebody who is just trying to learn. It doesn’t make you look good and it doesn’t help me learn. I understand you have more experience than me and I’m trying to learn from it. Not everyone has 30+ years experience in their field. Everyone starts out somewhere. And as a second year computer science major I’m extremely interested in learning these things and improving my skills. I’m willing to make mistakes and learn. But if I see someone else make a mistake I’m not going to belittle them. I’m going to share my knowledge and hopefully prevent them from making that mistake in the future. And a lot of these ideas aren’t common knowledge for everyone. And spreading negative criticism and judging others for not knowing is only going to widen the gap between the people on your level of knowledge and the people who are striving to get there
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So is there any light that seems to turn on once plugged in and you press on the power button?
Any fan activity?
Any other sound emanating from your laptop?
 
Adrian the Saxon said:
I'm not criticizing what you did, I'm criticizing how you did it.
I can now speak with many years experience. But I also learned it the hard way. Installing a cover for an extension slot in a running computer...
And then drop the screw... It was a 386 Tower and it did not survive. ;)
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This is a response I appreciate a lot more. I’m glad to hear about the experience you’ve had about making mistakes. It makes me feel less bad about it. I understand I didn’t perform the repair the correct way. But I am still interesting in learning how to do it the correct way. I don’t want this to steer me away from wanting to work on computers. I want to learn from it through others peoples experience and knowledge so thanks for that
 
drek4 said:
So is there any light that seems to turn on once plugged in and you press on the power button?
Any fan activity?
Any other sound emanating from your laptop?
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Nothing like any of that. Power button does nothing and there is no lights. I appreciate you helping
 
drek4 said:
He will have a short life in any job! ;)
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"Jeder Mensch ist begrenzt lernfähig."
"Every person has a limited ability to learn."
Jeder Mensch ist (begrenzt) lernfähig.
Every person has (limited) ability to learn.
Every human being is capable of learning, and has a limited ability to learn.
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One of the few situations where a translation fails. In German this is pure sarcasm.
 
tristonwhite2152e02d5 said:
Nothing like any of that. Power button does nothing and there is no lights. I appreciate you helping
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Open up the laptop again, remove the RAM modules inside, disconnect your battery, then hold the power button for 30 seconds.
Once you did this re insert the RAM modules, re connect the battery, close up the laptop and press the power button again, once plugged in.
If still same issue, you have a hardware problem!
 
Adrian the Saxon said:
"Jeder Mensch ist begrenzt lernfähig."
"Every person has a limited ability to learn."

One of the few situations where a translation fails. In German this is pure sarcasm.
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I'm only half German, so my sarcasm is not as well defined as yours ;)
 
drek4 said:
Open up the laptop again, remove the RAM modules inside, disconnect your battery, then hold the power button for 30 seconds.
Once you did this re insert the RAM modules, re connect the battery, close up the laptop and press the power button again, once plugged in.
If still same issue, you have a hardware problem!
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Okay I’ll go try that right now. Thank you!
 
If the above doesn't help and you find out the power supply is ok then maybe the new fan shorted something.

I suppose we should address the battery issue.
The possibility that the battery kept a standby voltage active, like +5v and the USB port near the fan header active, maybe. And if you did accidentally touch this and the USB casing, you could have shorted it out. Also the motherboard is like a big capacitor, it can hold charge for a considerable time so grounding is also important and time to let any charge dissipate is also important.

This is why sometimes you will read things like press or hold the power button down with everything unplugged, the idea being any charge will be allowed a path to dissipate and reduces the risk of shorts. (not to be confused with holding the power button down with the battery installed, this is usually to trigger a motherboard / bios reset)
 
drek4 said:
No
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just tried this, with the ram unhooked and the battery disconnected i held the power button for a while and just reconnected everything and no luck
Edit: i am willing to accept reluctantly that its a hardware issue but before i do that is there anything else i can try
 
I appreciate the help guys, i understand that from your perspective its probably a dumb mistake but for me it was an honest mistake and an attempt to learn new things out of a bad situation. so i appreciate the help
 
tristonwhite2152e02d5 said:
A few weeks ago my cpu fan of my MSI GE67HX started making a weird noise. So I removed it. Laptop ran just fine playing light Minecraft with cooler boost on while I waited for a new fan.
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To play a game without CPU fan is not a "honest" mistake.
To replace a fan with the battery still connected is not a "honest" mistake.
All of these indicate a junior.
Most of the young people think that everything is possible and they are capable of anything.:biggrin:
Obviously they're wrong.
In any case, I hope you won't pay a significant price for your lack of skills.
good luck in your adventure.
:beerchug:
 
RemusM said:
To play a game without CPU fan is not a "honest" mistake.
To replace a fan with the battery still connected is not a "honest" mistake.
All of these indicate a junior.
Most of the young people think that everything is possible and they are capable of anything.:biggrin:
Obviously they're wrong.
In any case, I hope you won't pay a significant price for your lack of skills.
good luck in your adventure.
:beerchug:
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There wasn’t a mistake in using my computer without the cpu fan. I still had my GPU fan and they are connected on the same heat pipes so there was no issue using the laptop normally and playing light minecraft with cooler boost keeps my temps under 50 on the cpu and gpu, so i dont see that being an issue. In terms of not unplugging the battery can be seen as a mistake, especially if other tutorials dont require removing the battery for other things such as ram/ssd upgrades(which i thought were in the same category of repair difficulty)

Saying that these indicate a junior is a valid argument as i am young, but werent you young and uneducated at some point too? im not expecting you to have known everything from the first moment you touched a computer am I?

‘Most of the young people think that everything is possible and they are capable of anything.
Obviously they're wrong’

Whats wrong with a little bit of enthusiasm and initiative to try something you haven’t done before?
And really what point do you see in hating on people who are just starting out? its like you’re gatekeeping knowledge which is insane if you ask me.
Inclusivity breeds new ideas and causes people to be passionate about things they didnt know before.
Those same people can be veered away from an incredibly rewarding career path and field of study because of people who cant accept that there are people who aren’t in the position as them.
Thanks for wishing me luck and i also hope this wont cost me much money
Everyone lacks the skills which they haven’t learned yet, so why should that person be judged for not knowing?
 
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