Warning : V17 bios for Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi release Monday may brick your board.

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Just a heads up...I should of checked here 1st I guess as I see it happening on the Tomahawk too......

Happen to me yesterday going from V16>V17 via M-Flash

RMA is the only fix I have been told - 2-4 week wait - not possible , it is my new CAD Workstation.....

I have reported it and spoken to TS , but the Bios is still up on the support page.....
 
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Alan J T said:
I'm guessing it only brick some but not all Z490 boards so it not a big concern yet.
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I can see that it affects a lot of Z490 boards, but that's not the point. The big concern is that they don't give an official statement as MSI till this day, and after so many tickets from customers. That is bad.
 
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anglnotre15dd02f0 said:
I can see that it affects a lot of Z490 boards, but that's not the point. The big concern is that they don't give an official statement as MSI till this day, and after so many tickets from customers. That is bad.
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Yep but we all in that dark to secret squirrel MSI BIOS stuff
 
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update bios v17 to v18 of z490 tomahawk and it won't boot
They gave me the RMA link, but I am from South America, Chile, and it is only for the USA and Canada.
What should I do?
 
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You should contact the store you bought it from. In several countries, the vendor handles the RMA with MSI, you don't deal with MSI directly.
 
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1.7 to 1.9 using M-Flash completed successfully in BIOS but upon the reboot no display and CPU light.
Have a i7-10700k with no issues prior. Just updating for the added features.
regardless of what components removed, from graphics card, to all HDDs and even the RAM (following CMOS battery removal etc). The CPU light comes on right away.
Have had the MSI MPG Z490 GAMING CARBON WIFI for under a year since new. Submitted an RMA with details. Sure hope they are decent and have a solution I can do myself or can drop mboard off for RMA and supply me another in Adelaide, South Australia... I am screwed without it.
 
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fatedust said:
Have you tried to clear CMOS after M-FLASH? Sometimes it can be fixed by that.
Also, can you share what's the USB disk brand, capacity, and format?
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Hi,
Oh yeah, tried the usual clearing CMOS approaches. Battery removal, short clear CMOS and so forth. Even attempted to use different USBs formatted to FAT32 from 32gb down to 4gb with renaming bios files from v17 to v19 to MSI.ROM in both USB 2.0 slots .. all slots. Eventually with no CPU in just power.

After putting together PCs since the 80286 as a kid in the later 1980s, this is the first time ever bricked a mboard ever. Considering how simple the M-Flash process had appeared to go and on other boards it needs to be sent back to MSI. Just wish I knew how MSI go about restoring the board.. Surely, there is some sort of method that can be shared? :) Long wait time since have to pay and wait to first post the board back to the computer shop where I bought it from in Melbourne to verify before they ship off to MSI..

Meanwhile, I plonked my trustly 8+ yo MSIZ87-G45 Gaming motherboard with a i7-4770k in my case this z490 gaming carbon wifi came out of and ill post it tomorrow. Sighhhh https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z87-G45-GAMING/Specification Least the old board has the 'flash back' button.. not that I have ever needed it
 
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i have submitted my board for RMA it will either take 3 or 10 days max they said . i told the guy that cpu debug led is stuck at cpu, he did not get it lol and marked the problem as no booting
 
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You should tell them that this seems to be a common problem with the latest BIOS update for Z490 boards, and there's several similar cases on the English MSI forum already. Someone at MSI has to connect the dots and see that all these RMAs of Z490 boards have a common theme. It's crazy that it's all taking this long. It would help if someone official from MSI was on this forum sometimes, but i think a lot of them might only know Chinese and you maybe find them somewhere on Chinese/Taiwanese forums, if anything.

The first reports about the newest BIOS update bricking Z490 boards was at the beginning of May:

Then in the middle of May, this thread here, and several more after. From a bit of digging, i found 22 unique users who all had the same problem with their Z490 board and the newest BIOS:

datz.bunz
sixpackvbal129b02ae
dr_overflo153302df
mace014ea02cd
matley07154702dc
mark.hadda156c02dd
mickh5494
sa3aa14e902d9
jallu_col129b02ae
jwilby8160102f6
lesurvenan152302d4
luis.stuardo2151c02d3
Own3d
tehjacku151402ce
dj3for10
hardcore_gamer29
yamei031154f02d7
gmbeas160158102e0
mikemauge154a02d7
mark.robinson198127b02ab
xsketchyfruit12fc02b9
John Eisberg (could recover it himself because his MEG Z490 UNIFY has a Flash BIOS Button)

There could be more affected users, i have only checked some threads with Z490 in the title.

There definitely seems to be a danger from the April/May BIOS update (changelog includes "Improved Audio compatibility"),
and even from the newer July release (changelog: "Support M2 PCIE lanes switch function.").

There seem to be no reports of bricked boards after the flashing process with any of the earlier BIOS updates.
 
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Hi All,
I have just been reading the forum and I am also in the same situation, I have a Z490 Tomahawk and i7 10700k I updated the bios through dragon center and all seemed to go well, then the pc restarted and we'll u all know the rest I'm just stuck with the debug CPU led lit. What I want to know is as I updated through dragon center to the latest version if I get an RMA sorted I want to get to bios V17 as I can make use of the resizable bar feature. Has anyone got just V17 working on this motherboard I was planing to flash it via a memory stick this time once I have a working pc again. Let's just hope MSI sort this out as something is seriously wrong.
 
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dan.pahal125b02a7 said:
Hi All,
I have just been reading the forum and I am also in the same situation, I have a Z490 Tomahawk and i7 10700k I updated the bios through dragon center and all seemed to go well, then the pc restarted and we'll u all know the rest I'm just stuck with the debug CPU led lit. What I want to know is as I updated through dragon center to the latest version if I get an RMA sorted I want to get to bios V17 as I can make use of the resizable bar feature. Has anyone got just V17 working on this motherboard I was planning to flash it via a memory stick this time once I have a working pc again. Let's just hope MSI sort this out as something is seriously wrong.
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that bios is still on their site so i guess they do not bother at all and i updated through usb stick by using m-flash by going into bios still this happened and i also have z490 tomahawk with i9 10900k and the last bios version i updated to safely was 7C80v18
you can download it here

MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK ATX Gaming Motherboard (10th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1200 Socket, DDR4, CF, Dual M.2 Slots, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Type-C, 2.5G LAN, DP/HDMI, Mystic Light RGB) 輸入訊息

Powered by Intel 10th Gen Core processors, the MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK is hardened with performance essential specifications to outlast enemies. Equipped with Aluminum Cover, Core boost, M.2 Shield Frozr and 2.5G LAN for sustained performance. A variety of
in.msi.com in.msi.com
 
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hardcore_gamer29 said:
that bios is still on their site so i guess they do not bother at all and i updated through usb stick by using m-flash by going into bios still this happened and i also have z490 tomahawk with i9 10900k and the last bios version i updated to safely was 7C80v18
you can download it here

MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK ATX Gaming Motherboard (10th Gen Intel Core, LGA 1200 Socket, DDR4, CF, Dual M.2 Slots, USB 3.2 Gen 2, Type-C, 2.5G LAN, DP/HDMI, Mystic Light RGB) 輸入訊息

Powered by Intel 10th Gen Core processors, the MSI MAG Z490 TOMAHAWK is hardened with performance essential specifications to outlast enemies. Equipped with Aluminum Cover, Core boost, M.2 Shield Frozr and 2.5G LAN for sustained performance. A variety of
in.msi.com in.msi.com
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Thanks for the response so going straight from whatever the board comes back with to V18 is the way to go and leave 19 I think once resizable bar is working I won't update again I can't believe how many people have now had to RMA bricked boards but MSI continue to leave the clearly buggy bios on the site I see people that have the bios bricked going from V17 to V18 but it could be something not cleared from V17 causing the boards to brick.
 
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dan.pahal125b02a7 said:
Thanks for the response so going straight from whatever the board comes back with to V18 is the way to go and leave 19 I think once resizable bar is working I won't update again I can't believe how many people have now had to RMA bricked boards but MSI continue to leave the clearly buggy bios on the site I see people that have the bios bricked going from V17 to V18 but it could be something not cleared from V17 causing the boards to brick.
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i will not touch it ever now no matter with what version my board comes back to me
 
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