!!! Warning: Z490 boards - problem with recent BIOS updates !!!

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There is a common problem with the latest BIOS updates for Z490 boards: The update seems to finish, the PC reboots, but then it's stuck with the EZ Debug LED "CPU" being on.

The danger has first appeared with the April/May 2021 BIOS update (changelog: "Improved Audio compatibility"), and may continue with newer updates as well, potentially causing the same issue: The board can become unusable / "bricked" because of a failed flash process.

Note that there is no risk of this with BIOS updates for MSI mainboards using other chipsets (like Z390, B460, Z590, B560, Z690, B660, X470, B450, X570, B550, and so on).
This can only happen on MSI Z490 boards. People with other boards can update normally.

The first reports about a Z490 BIOS update causing problems was at the beginning of May 2021: z490 Tomahawk CPU Debug LED Stuck on after latest BIOS update
Then in May 2021, this thread: Warning : V17 bios for Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi release Monday may brick your board., and several more after.

I have found no reports of problems with any of the earlier BIOS updates, only with the ones from mid-2021 and newer. Also, this problem doesn't happen all the time, otherwise this forum would be absolutely flooded with complaints. But it is a real danger, as you will see below when i list some of the affected users.

Normally i'm all for updating the BIOS, and i do it pretty much immediately on my boards whenever a new BIOS is released. And this Z490 issue is the first such problem i ever saw. But the main problem is: Unlike some newer-generation boards, most of the Z490 boards have no way of recovering from it. For most people, the only way to solve this would be to RMA the board, or try their luck with an external BIOS programming device. The only Z490 boards where it's no problem are the two sister boards MEG Z490 UNIFY and ACE, and the MEG Z490 GODLIKE, because those three have a USB Flashback function (Flash BIOS Button). There you can flash back to an older version and the board works again, or you can even flash the newest version until it works (once the BIOS is successfully flashed, even the three newest versions will work fine).

The newer Z590, Z690 and Z790 boards now almost all have a Flash BIOS Button (and corresponding USB port) on the rear I/O panel through which users can "force-flash" the BIOS in case of problems. So i guess MSI rather add that function everywhere now, instead of dealing with RMAs of bricked boards when something goes wrong. Once you have this "USB Flashback" feature on a board, a problem like this becomes harmless, because you can just re-flash the latest BIOS and make it work again.

I have researched about all the users i could find that have been affected by this, so everyone can see the full scope of the problem. I don't think i exaggerate when i claim that this is a huge problem for MSI and their reputation, and to my knowledge, they have not reacted until this day. They released the September BIOS update for Windows 11 compatibility, and while such an update went well on my Z590 board at the time, as expected (plus it has the safety net of the Flash USB Button), there are still reports of the similar Z490 update potentially causing this problem there. Each day, there are many people updating their BIOS on MSI mainboards without any issues, and only on Z490 boards we see this kind of problem.

As a longtime MSI user, this kind of problem with the Z490 boards is unacceptable, even if i don't have a Z490 board myself.
Therefore, i decided to try to bring further attention to it, so hopefully MSI can do something about it as soon as possible.

Update October 7, 2021: MSI are now seemingly aware of this issue, as was confirmed on a German forum by an official MSI account. I will update this post/thread if there is any progress.

Update October 29, 2021: A user received a link from MSI with a tool for manual flashing from the command line. However, this is just an interim solution if you absolutely want to update to the newest Z490 BIOS and reduce the risk of failure. We are still waiting for them to upload new BIOS updates where this potential problem is 100% fixed.

Update March 6, 2022: Still no solution from MSI.

Update August 17, 2023: Still nothing from MSI, although there are considerably less cases now than there have been two years ago, we barely get any new victims. So maybe the newest BIOS versions are way less problematic again. As for updating an MSI Z490 board, i now recommend using the Forum Flash Tool as linked here. There has been no corrupt Z490 BIOS reported with it yet.


If the problem already happened, the best do-it-yourself solution by far is this kind of method with an external flash programmer (bit more info here), it has a 100% success rate from what i have read so far. Meaning, more or less everyone that seriously tried that method could eventually flash their BIOS with it and get the board back to a working state. So for everyone wanting to avoid a possibly lengthy RMA process, this is a viable option. The programming device is quite cheap, but it involves a bit of research and spirit of adventure. Luckily, there are good guides about it on Youtube for example.


One final word: It is important not to be put off from doing BIOS updates altogether by this. BIOS updates fix bugs, add new features, and they even improve performance. It is extremely rare that a whole line of mainboard models has such a potential problem. So, nobody should conclude never to do any BIOS updates again, that would be the wrong thing to learn from this. Instead, once this problem is fixed for the Z490 boards, the BIOS updates can once again be an important way to make the system work better, faster, and with less bugs. On other boards with a Flash BIOS Button as a safety net, there is literally no reason to shy away from any BIOS updates. Even here with the Z490 boards, whenever users with the the boards Z490 ACE, UNIFY or GODLIKE were affected, they could easily recover from it using the Flash BIOS Button. This problem could only become so big because all the other Z490 board models from MSI didn't have the Flash BIOS Button yet.


Statistics:
Affected total users (from this list and from further replies to this thread): 183
Users that could fix it themselves using the Flash BIOS Button (
Z490 ACE/UNIFY/GODLIKE): 9
Users that could fix it themselves using an external programming device: 12
Users who did an RMA with the vendor or MSI for a fix/replacement: 56
RMA declined because of existing unrelated damage on the board: 4
Users that bought a new board themselves: 9
No further information / no RMA yet: 93

Users that updated via MSI Center / Dragon Center Live Update: 85
Users that updated via M-FLASH in the BIOS: 66
Update method unknown:
32


List of affected users i have found on the forum, as of first posting this thread:

(Roughly in chronological order)

User: @datz.bunz
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Bought a replacement board (ASUS)

User: @mace014ea02cd
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Got a replacement board

User: @dr_overflo153302df
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Bought a replacement board

User: @sixpackvbal129b02ae
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI, got his repaired board back

User: @mark.hadda156c02dd
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk?
CPU: 10850k
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @mickh5494
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @kenneth.cotma151802d1
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor, sent to MSI for repair

User: @anglnotre15dd02f0
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA, got his repaired board back with older BIOS vA6 on

User: @lesurvenan152302d4
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @sa3aa14e902d9
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Goes "back to ASUS"

User: @jallu_col129b02ae
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied due to small scratch on the board. Bought a replacement board from different brand

User: @Own3d
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI

User: @luis.stuardo2151c02d3
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. It will be "his last board from MSI"

User: @tehjacku151402ce
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied by MSI (didn't go into detail), got a replacement through insurance

User: @mark.robinson198127b02ab
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @dj3for10
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. "Contemplates life in front of dead PC"

User: @jwilby8160102f6
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @ferran.duarr157e02dd
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify
CPU: 11700
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @Rubik
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Successfully repaired it by using a BIOS programmer,

User: @janschulteortbec154a02d3
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @hardcore_gamer29
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through service center, got his repaired board back

User: @yamei031154f02d7
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI

User: @saokirito93156102df
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI
CPU: 10600KF
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @jwilby8160102f6
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @gmbeas160158102e0
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @mohdrodz15bf02ed
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA

User: @mikemauge154a02d7
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10900
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI, got his repaired board back with BIOS v17 on

User: @xsketchyfruit12fc02b9
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Pro Plus
CPU: 10400
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @yxh93021154502dc
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Pro Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @John Eisberg
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 UNIFY
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA9
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Used "Flash BIOS Button" method to force-flash to BIOS vA8, board works again

User: @aaronpeigh
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 UNIFY
CPU: 10850K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA9
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Used "Flash BIOS Button" method to force-flash to BIOS vA8, board works again

User: @dan.pahal125b02a7
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA

User: @amichele154f02db
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA8
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @j0sefuz115d402ee
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @mikkl1620
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied due to slightly bent pins in the CPU socket. Bought a replacement board "Z590 Tomahawk"

User: @yohan.vandevell154002e1
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Opened a ticket with MSI

User: @jonathan84012e802b5
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @takocankol
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @christoph.urba128d02aa
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Wants to attempt manual BIOS flash with CH341A EEPROM programmer,

User: @seeknay7415ae02f0
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI. "Very unlikely he will buy another MSI board after this"

User: @mastersap157d02db
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?, got a new board of the same model

User: @stro152c02d9
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: 10500
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.



Everyone with the same problem on Z490 that doesn't find themselves on the list, feel free to reply here using the same format, here is a template:
Date of failed flashing:
Affected board model:
CPU:
Flashing method used:
Attempted update to BIOS version:
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

Whenever i have seen your reply and included it in the statistics, i will give a "thumbs up" for it to thank you for your participation.

Also, feel free to refer to this thread in your communication with the vendor or with MSI. Hopefully MSI will finally start to recognize this problem and do something about it.

Someone asked me if they can thank me for my work by sending me something via Paypal: Yes, that's possible, just write me a message and i'll tell you my Paypal 😉
 
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There is a common problem with the latest BIOS updates for Z490 boards: The update seems to finish, the PC reboots, but then it's stuck with the EZ Debug LED "CPU" being on.

There seems to be a danger from the April/May BIOS update (changelog: "Improved Audio compatibility"), from the July update (changelog: "Support M2 PCIE lanes switch function."), and from the September update (changelog: "Windows 11 Supported, Improved compatibility for Intel Thunderbolt devices."), potentially causing the same issue: The board becomes unusable / "bricked".

Note that there is no risk of this with BIOS updates for MSI mainboards using other chipsets (Z390, B460, Z590, B560, X470, X570, B450, B550, etc.).
This can only happen on MSI Z490 boards. People with other boards can update normally.

The first reports about a Z490 BIOS update causing problems was at the beginning of May: z490 Tomahawk CPU Debug LED Stuck on after latest BIOS update
Then in May, this thread: Warning : V17 bios for Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi release Monday may brick your board., and several more after.

I have found no reports of problems with any of the earlier BIOS updates. So i urge everyone to not update to any of those latest three versions until this possible problem is solved. I say possible, because it probably doesn't happen all the time, otherwise this forum would be absolutely flooded with complaints. But it is a real danger, as you will see below when i list some of the affected users.

Normally i'm all for updating the BIOS, and i do it pretty much immediately on my boards whenever a new BIOS is released. And this Z490 issue is the first such problem i ever saw. But most of the Z490 boards have no way of recovering from it. For most people, the only way to solve this would be to RMA the board. The only Z490 boards where it's no problem are the two sister boards MEG Z490 UNIFY and ACE, and the MEG Z490 GODLIKE, because those three have a BIOS Flashback function (Flash USB Button). There you can flash back to an older version and the board works again.

The more recent Z590 ATX boards now all have a Flash BIOS Button (and corresponding USB port) on the back, through which you can "force-flash" the BIOS in case of problems. So i guess MSI rather add that function everywhere now, instead of dealing with RMAs of bricked boards when something goes wrong.

I have researched about all the users i could find that have been affected by this, so everyone can see the full scope of the problem. I don't think i exaggerate when i claim that this is a huge problem for MSI and their reputation, and to my knowledge, they have not reacted until this day. They released the September BIOS update for Windows 11 compatibility, and while such an update went well on my Z590 board as expected (plus it has the safety net of the Flash USB Button), there are still reports of the similar Z490 update potentially causing this problem there. Each day, there are many people updating their BIOS on MSI mainboards without any issues, and only on Z490 we see this kind of problem.

As a longtime MSI user, this kind of problem with the Z490 boards is unacceptable, even if i don't have a Z490 board myself.
Therefore, i decided to try to bring further attention to it, so hopefully MSI can do something about it as soon as possible.

Update October 7, 2021: MSI are now seemingly aware of this issue, as was confirmed on a German forum by an official MSI account. I will update this post/thread if there is any progress.

Update October 29, 2021: A user received a link from MSI with a tool for manual flashing from the command line. However, this is just an interim solution if you absolutely want to update to the newest Z490 BIOS and reduce the risk of failure. We are still waiting for them to upload new BIOS updates where this potential problem is 100% fixed.

It is important not to be put off from doing BIOS updates altogether by this. BIOS updates fix bugs, add new features, and they even improve performance. It is extremely rare that a whole line of mainboard models has such a potential problem. So, nobody should conclude never to do any BIOS updates again, that would be the wrong message. Instead, once this problem is fixed for the Z490 boards, the BIOS updates can once again be an important way to make the system work better, faster, and with less bugs.


Statistics:
Affected total users (from this list and from further replies to this thread): 149
Users that could fix it themselves: 14 (7x Flash BIOS Button, 7x external programming device)
Users who did an RMA with the vendor or MSI for a fix/replacement: 45
Users where the RMA was declined: 4 (3x because of existing damage to the board, 1x not stated)
Users that bought a new board themselves: 6
No further information / no RMA yet: 80

Users that updated via MSI/Dragon Center Live Update: 63
Users that updated via M-FLASH: 56
Update method unknown:
30


List of affected users i have found on the forum, as of first posting this thread:

(Roughly in chronological order)

User: @datz.bunz
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Bought a replacement board (ASUS)

User: @mace014ea02cd
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Got a replacement board

User: @dr_overflo153302df
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Bought a replacement board

User: @sixpackvbal129b02ae
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI, got his repaired board back

User: @mark.hadda156c02dd
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk?
CPU: 10850k
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @mickh5494
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @kenneth.cotma151802d1
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor, sent to MSI for repair

User: @anglnotre15dd02f0
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA, got his repaired board back with older BIOS vA6 on

User: @lesurvenan152302d4
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @sa3aa14e902d9
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Goes "back to ASUS"

User: @jallu_col129b02ae
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied due to small scratch on the board. Bought a replacement board from different brand

User: @Own3d
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI

User: @luis.stuardo2151c02d3
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. It will be "his last board from MSI"

User: @tehjacku151402ce
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied by MSI (didn't go into detail), got a replacement through insurance

User: @mark.robinson198127b02ab
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @dj3for10
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. "Contemplates life in front of dead PC"

User: @jwilby8160102f6
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @ferran.duarr157e02dd
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify
CPU: 11700
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @Rubik
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Successfully repaired it by using a BIOS programmer,

User: @janschulteortbec154a02d3
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @hardcore_gamer29
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through service center, got his repaired board back

User: @yamei031154f02d7
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI

User: @saokirito93156102df
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI
CPU: 10600KF
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @jwilby8160102f6
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @gmbeas160158102e0
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @mohdrodz15bf02ed
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA

User: @mikemauge154a02d7
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10900
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI, got his repaired board back with BIOS v17 on

User: @xsketchyfruit12fc02b9
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Pro Plus
CPU: 10400
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @yxh93021154502dc
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Pro Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @John Eisberg
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 UNIFY
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA9
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Used "Flash BIOS Button" method to force-flash to BIOS vA8, board works again

User: @aaronpeigh
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 UNIFY
CPU: 10850K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA9
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Used "Flash BIOS Button" method to force-flash to BIOS vA8, board works again

User: @dan.pahal125b02a7
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA

User: @amichele154f02db
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA8
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @j0sefuz115d402ee
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @mikkl1620
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied due to slightly bent pins in the CPU socket. Bought a replacement board "Z590 Tomahawk"

User: @yohan.vandevell154002e1
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Opened a ticket with MSI

User: @jonathan84012e802b5
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @takocankol
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @christoph.urba128d02aa
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Wants to attempt manual BIOS flash with CH341A EEPROM programmer,

User: @seeknay7415ae02f0
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI. "Very unlikely he will buy another MSI board after this"

User: @mastersap157d02db
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?, got a new board of the same model

User: @stro152c02d9
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: 10500
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.



Everyone with the same problem on Z490 that doesn't find themselves on the list, feel free to reply here using the same format, here is a template:
Date of failed flashing:
Affected board model:
CPU:
Flashing method used:
Attempted update to BIOS version:
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

Whenever i have seen your reply and included it in the statistics, i will give a "thumbs up" for it to thank you for your participation.

Also, feel free to refer to this thread in your communication with the vendor or with MSI. Hopefully MSI will finally start to recognize this problem and do something about it.
THE ONLY WISDOM TO UPGRADE MB FRIMWARE IS - RESET BIOS YOU ARE ABANDONING TO DEFAULT. I NOTICED (ON 2ND-3RD BIOS UPDATE) SOME THINGS WERE NOT TRANSFERRED & CARRIED CORRECTLY TO NEW BIOS.
 
How about this: 7C71vAB
Is it safe to flash for this now?
My Board is Z490 Unify.

Okay, I have found the answer here. But why they do not remove those bios version from the site which can cause failure of the mobo's?

I guess a lots of people does not come to this forum and they are not even aware about this problem. So they just download the new bios. Especially now, to install Windows 11.
 
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RESET BIOS YOU ARE ABANDONING TO DEFAULT

In this case on Z490, it might help to load default settings first before the update, but i don't think it's a guarantee that it will work.

Basically, we need the help of someone with a Z490 ACE, UNIFY or GODLIKE. Those boards can always recover from BIOS problems via Flash BIOS Button and are therefore basically risk-free.
For testing if custom BIOS settings have any influence on the success of the problematic BIOS updates, someone with such a board could do the community a huge favour by doing the following.

Testing if custom BIOS settings have any influence on the update success:

1) Flash the BIOS from February 2020, the last one where there is no risk during the flashing process:

Z490 ACE: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z490-ACE/support#support-main-block-download
Last risk-free version: 7C71v17

Z490 UNIFY: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z490-UNIFY/support#support-main-block-download
Last risk-free version: 7C71vA7

Z490 GODLIKE: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MEG-Z490-GODLIKE/support#support-main-block-download
Last risk-free version: 7C70v17

2) Set a few custom settings like enabling XMP for the RAM, setting some random fan curves, just change a couple BIOS options like you would.

3) Flash any of the three newer, potentially problematic BIOS versions.

If the reasoning that custom settings are more likely to cause problems with these updates is true, then the update to any of the three newest updates might fail at the end and cause the CPU LED to come on. In this case, continue as follows:

4) Using the Flash BIOS Button, flash to the last risk-free version again. The board will boot normally again.

5) Enter the BIOS and load default settings, or perform a Clear CMOS.

6) Flash any of the three newer, potentially problematic BIOS versions.

If it's true that resetting all BIOS settings to default can prevent the problem with these three latest updates, then the update will not fail at the end and the board will boot normally.
 
Good morning everyone.
Got same problem.
Date of failed flashing: 2022-01-03
Affected board model: MSI Z490-A PRO
CPU: i7-10700
Flashing method used: MSI Center
Update to BIOS version: 7C73v1A
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update and black video
I have tried in every way to reset the bios but no results. At last I went to a computer shop but they too failed. Requested return of mb on Amazon (purchased only 10 months ago) but I don't know I will get a refund. I had to buy a new mb with the same chipset in order not to be without a PC (MPG Z-490 Gaming Edge WIFI). Now, Dragon Center ask me for the same update bio, but clearly I won't run it. Hope MSI technicians fix this problem asap.
 
On your new Z490 Gaming Edge WIFI, you can still update to BIOS 7C79v16 without risk. Only v17, v18 and v1A are risky.

To update to the latest safe update, download v16 from here, https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z490-GAMING-EDGE-WIFI/support#support-main-block-download
Then update via M-FLASH in the BIOS:
1) Extract the file and you will get a text file and the BIOS file. Put the BIOS file into the root folder of a USB stick/drive.
2) Enter the BIOS by pressing DEL during boot, go to "M-FLASH" in the BIOS.
3) Once M-Flash (the updater) is loaded, it will show a list of your drives. Select the USB stick and select the previously extracted BIOS file on there.
4) It will ask for confirmation and then update the BIOS. It's fully automatic from there, takes about two minutes.
 
Z490-A Pro motherboard updated BIOS because of upgrading to Windows 11 pro flashed bios with new version 7C75v2C from 7C75v2A so the Motherboard flash updated successful then rebooted. light on Mobo but No post just black screen tried doing bios reset and battery pop to reset, no post. Then took all devices out of Mobo, cpu, memory, gpu card, no post.
Had to RMA with MSI and make sure you mention this posting.
MSI needs to take down any new releases of BIOS for this MoBo so people don't brick there boards
Please contact MSI if you have a Z490 to put this on MSI to fix.
Thanks and good luck folks
 
Good evening / morning ... late evening here. Not having seen this thread, I just attempted to update my Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi to BIOS version 7C79v18 (release date 2021-07-01). After making the USB drive, everything seemed to go well until the update process froze at 100% completion. It showed the BIOS versions as going from 1.3 to 1.8. Left it for about 30 minutes, expecting the system to restart, which it didn't. In the meantime I found this thread and began to worry! I restarted the PC myself and it booted into Windows as per normal. When I went back into the BIOS, it showed version number as being the one I was trying to update to. I did have to re-enable the XMP profile (I hadn't reset the BIOS to defaults prior to updating). So far, everything seems in order. Am I safe to say that the update was successful? Is there anything else I should do to verify it or check for?
 
Date of failed flashing: mid-October 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wi-Fi
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C79v19 (from v16)
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Bought a replacement board (Z590 Tomahawk WiFi)

Above previously reported (msg #308).
Update is that although I did not want to pay shipping for RMA, I figured that trying $14 CH341A programmer/clip was reasonable. Used ASProgrammer to load 7C79v1A yesterday which worked; Z490 Gaming Edge Wi-Fi is running again (so will re-purpose my Z590 Tomahawk WiFi)
 
I have no clue if this is relevant or not. My CPU was overclocked when I updated the bios "Core 5.2Ghz/Ring 4.8Ghz @ 1.385V".

Date of failed flashing: 2022-01-13
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge WIFI
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: "7C79IMS.1A0" / "7C79v1A"
Result: The 1st attempt failed, I started the update then a few seconds later the screen turned black. I waited 5 minutes for any sign of life then restarted. The 2nd attempt was successful, Started normally then it got to 100% froze for roughly 5 minutes and restarted on it's own. The main issue that brought me here is now my CPU Ratio won't go above 4.9Ghz and my Ring Ratio is locked at 4.3Ghz. I've lost the ability to overclock essentially.

P.S. I took a picture of my OC settings prior to updating the bios, so I don't think I missed anything when attempting to set the OC.
 
Hello All!

I just wanted to update to the last bios due to install Windows 11. Does it necessary the latest bios to run Win 11 on my pc?
Now I have read these issues about the latest bios version I am really afraid to update. My motherboard is Z490 Unify.

Thanks for your replies.
 
The main issue that brought me here is now my CPU Ratio won't go above 4.9Ghz and my Ring Ratio is locked at 4.3Ghz. I've lost the ability to overclock essentially.

I'm afraid this is completely unrelated, please make a new thread for it, or "update" to the version you previously used (at your own risk) to get the OC capability back to normal.

But note that overclocking a 10900K is not really advisable, as i wrote before here for example. The 10900K basically amounts to a factory-overclocked CPU if you remove the power limits, in power consumption and thus in heat production. And if you attempt to OC it, you're overclocking on top of what would've been an overclock with any previous CPU models. You can only gain a small bit of performance, but since Intel went above the point they should've gone on the voltage-per-frequency curve already (in order to beat AMD in certain benchmarks), as i touched on here, you will get an exponential increase in power consumption, killing the overall computation efficiency.

For calculating efficiency, we have to consider 1) performance, and 2) power consumption (which results in heat production). Ideally, you'd want to look at "energy spent per time spent per calculating task", but for a rough estimation, it is enough to compare benchmark results and the momentary power consumption during that load.

1) Performance:
1600511639261.png


So let's compare the 10900K at all-core 5.2 GHz (VCore 1.385V, first bar) vs. the 10900K with no PL1/PL2/Tau limits in the BIOS (second bar) vs. stock performance with limits in place (third bar).
We have 6616 vs. 6375 points in CineBench R20 multicore (which almost exclusively responds to CPU performance). This is a 3.7% increase in performance.

2) Power consumption:
1600511837665.png


Here is the big downside. The CPU gobbles up 384.7W at all-core 5.2 GHz. This is a 70.45% increase (!) over stock with all power limits removed.

For each single percent of performance improvement over stock, you basically have to take a 20% increase in power consumption. This is almost unheard of in previous CPU generations, and it demonstrates that Intel put this CPU right at the limit of efficiency by default. Going above it doesn't make too much sense.

By the way, these are the voltages they needed during OC:

1600512167447.png


Their cooling was a custom Alphacool water cooler with 360mm radiator.

Today, RAM OC is way more useful than CPU OC. And it won't lead to huge increases in power consumption and heat production. Overclocking the CPU isn't what it used to be, certainly not with the top-of-the-line CPUs. With the RAM, you can still squeeze a lot out of it. Even above 3600 MHz you still can get quite some additional bandwidth, and with a 10th gen CPU, you're not even limited by the new "Gear2" ratio that kicks in somewhere above DDR4-3600 on 11th and 12th gen.
 
Hello All!

I just wanted to update to the last bios due to install Windows 11. Does it necessary the latest bios to run Win 11 on my pc?
Now I have read these issues about the latest bios version I am really afraid to update. My motherboard is Z490 Unify.

Thanks for your replies.
You don't need to, at least I didn't need to. Unrelated tip, you shouldn't use the upgrade from win10/11 feature. I'd recommend you do a clean Windows 11 install, so that you don't run into issues related to built in upgrade.
 
I just wanted to update to the last bios due to install Windows 11. Does it necessary the latest bios to run Win 11 on my pc?
Now I have read these issues about the latest bios version I am really afraid to update. My motherboard is Z490 Unify.

1) No, it's not required, you can enable the firmware TPM 2.0 manually for Win11 compatibility: https://www.msi.com/blog/How-to-Enable-TPM-on-MSI-Motherboards-Featuring-TPM-2-0

2) No need to be afraid, you have one of the three MSI Z490 board models that have a "Flash BIOS Button", so there is actually no risk involved. When the update fails, you can force-flash any BIOS using that USB flashback function, it will even work with a "bricked" BIOS. You can even force-flash the newest BIOS several times until the flashing is successful. The latest BIOS itself will work fine then. The only danger is during the update process (if your board doesn't have the Flash BIOS Button like all the lower Z490 models).
 
I'm afraid this is completely unrelated, please make a new thread for it, or "update" to the version you previously used (at your own risk) to get the OC capability back to normal.

But note that overclocking a 10900K is not really advisable, as i wrote before here for example. The 10900K basically amounts to a factory-overclocked CPU if you remove the power limits, in power consumption and thus in heat production. And if you attempt to OC it, you're overclocking on top of what would've been an overclock with any previous CPU models. You can only gain a small bit of performance, but since Intel went above the point they should've gone on the voltage-per-frequency curve already (in order to beat AMD in certain benchmarks), as i touched on here, you will get an exponential increase in power consumption, killing the overall computation efficiency.

For calculating efficiency, we have to consider 1) performance, and 2) power consumption (which results in heat production). Ideally, you'd want to look at "energy spent per time spent per calculating task", but for a rough estimation, it is enough to compare benchmark results and the momentary power consumption during that load.

1) Performance:
1600511639261.png


So let's compare the 10900K at all-core 5.2 GHz (VCore 1.385V, first bar) vs. the 10900K with no PL1/PL2/Tau limits in the BIOS (second bar) vs. stock performance with limits in place (third bar).
We have 6616 vs. 6375 points in CineBench R20 multicore (which almost exclusively responds to CPU performance). This is a 3.7% increase in performance.

2) Power consumption:
1600511837665.png


Here is the big downside. The CPU gobbles up 384.7W at all-core 5.2 GHz. This is a 70.45% increase (!) over stock with all power limits removed.

For each single percent of performance improvement over stock, you basically have to take a 20% increase in power consumption. This is almost unheard of in previous CPU generations, and it demonstrates that Intel put this CPU right at the limit of efficiency by default. Going above it doesn't make too much sense.

By the way, these are the voltages they needed during OC:

1600512167447.png


Their cooling was a custom Alphacool water cooler with 360mm radiator.

Today, RAM OC is way more useful than CPU OC. And it won't lead to huge increases in power consumption and heat production. Overclocking the CPU isn't what it used to be, certainly not with the top-of-the-line CPUs. With the RAM, you can still squeeze a lot out of it. Even above 3600 MHz you still can get quite some additional bandwidth, and with a 10th gen CPU, you're not even limited by the new "Gear2" ratio that kicks in somewhere above DDR4-3600 on 11th and 12th gen.
It's purely for the fun of it. My main motivation was to get more FPS than my buddies 9900k. :) Temps are under 90C, and the voltages are fine. Although I'm not sure where you're getting the 384W from. the highest I saw in HWMonitor was 220.
 
1) No, it's not required, you can enable the firmware TPM 2.0 manually for Win11 compatibility: https://www.msi.com/blog/How-to-Enable-TPM-on-MSI-Motherboards-Featuring-TPM-2-0

2) No need to be afraid, you have one of the three MSI Z490 board models that have a "Flash BIOS Button", so there is actually no risk involved. When the update fails, you can force-flash any BIOS using that USB flashback function, it will even work with a "bricked" BIOS. You can even force-flash the newest BIOS several times until the flashing is successful. The latest BIOS itself will work fine then. The only danger is during the update process (if your board doesn't have the Flash BIOS Button like all the lower Z490 models).
Thank you all. I will give a try for the update and I will let you all about how was the proccess.
 
It's purely for the fun of it. My main motivation was to get more FPS than my buddies 9900k. :) Temps are under 90C, and the voltages are fine.

Well, i don't want to talk about any "size comparison" going on there and how that's a bit childish, i only want to talk about the technical details of such an OC.
And if you think that this amount of VCore is fine, remember that power consumption rises even more exponentially (and i don't quite think it's fine).

Here is some more reading material explaining the VCore with your CPU,
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/5-1-1-275v-or-5-2-1-390v-i9-10900k.3699761/#post-22294128
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/5-1-1-275v-or-5-2-1-390v-i9-10900k.3699761/#post-22295031

I stand by what i said: On the 10th, 11th and 12th generation's higher CPU models, there is nothing left in the CPUs to overclock anymore. The turbo modes have already been perfected, and Intel goes right to the edge by default. You can only clock higher by using brute force, but it is not worth it given the massively increased power draw. You may disregard that to win in an FPS competition with your buddy, which would never enter my mind, but to each their own. Again, not here to criticize anyone's decisions, just wanted to mention some aspects of what happens when you do that.

Even the well-known shop "Silicon Lottery", where they sold CPUs which were guarenteed to overclock well, has shut down recently.
With Intel going to the limit already, there is nothing they could further select for their shop:

Silicon Lottery - Overclocked Intel AMD Ryzen CPUs - Screenshot 2021-10-02 at 00-16-58.png
 
Although I'm not sure where you're getting the 384W from. the highest I saw in HWMonitor was 220.

Wait a second, don't tell me you haven't maxed out the power limits in the BIOS? Then your OC would be basically for nothing...

limits.png

"(with Limits in PL2)"
No wonder you have no real problem cooling that, the high VCore gets negated by the CPU hitting the power limit prematurely. It can't draw more power no matter what.
Also, i'd use HWinfo64 Sensors for monitoring, it's superior.

But we're straying further and further away from this topic. It would be better if you made a new topic for further discussion of these issues.
 
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