- Oct 12, 2016
As a final update:The RAM. If one stick really is fried, and the other one is questionable, then you need new RAM no matter what. Plus it's much less of a hassle to try first.
I'd get a kit of DDR4-3600 with decent timings.
Not here to defend MSI, but when I changed platforms to Alder Lake, I jumped ship from Gigabyte because of ongoing (Z490) BIOS issues, and apparently Gigabyte has current XMP issues with Z690. There's some recurring theme with the implementation of 11th Gen/RKL on the Z490 platform via whatever platform/microcode updates the manufacturers have to include. I had a Z490 Vision D creator board (which was jam-packed with features including TB3 onboard) and, with a RKL chip the PCIe 4.0 "ready" lanes became active. Any BIOS version F20 or higher on that board was garbage -- XMP stability issues, multiple system restarts upon boot-up, BSODs, etc. I tried an i7-11700K and BSODs. I up/downgraded to an i9-10850K using a pre-RKL BIOS, and it was rock solid. They even created a newer BIOS version with a specific warning that you cannot flash back to any earlier versions. Yikes. Motherboard bricking though... Double yikes.Luckily, Amazon sent me a new board immediately, even though I bought it over 1 year ago. Never MSI again.
Why not get a z590 gaming plus. Its a good motherboard. Plus it has the bios flashback in case anything goes wrong with a bios update. Just a thought.OMG thx guys i just ordered 490 gaming plus cuz shes on sale 110 bucks, and what im reading MSI still dont fix the problem, so i think im gonna buy B660 instead
i wanna power friendly setup z590 imo is no power friendly even 11400 can draw up to 200W and be worst in games than 10400Why not get a z590 gaming plus. Its a good motherboard. Plus it has the bios flashback in case anything goes wrong with a bios update. Just a thought.
Of course depends if you plan to use a intel 11th gen or 12th gen cpu then I guess it makes since why your get the b660.
Ok I understand. The Z590 Gaming Plus does support 10th Gen CPU also.i wanna power friendly setup z590 imo is no power friendly even 11400 can draw up to 200W and be worst in games than 10400
on b660 i have 12400 on sale right now, but motherboard r not cheap and i still waiting for Hardware Unoxed to do proper Benchmark of many B660 boards on yt, any day now
Either RMA the board through the vendor or MSI, or try to bring it back to life with an external flash programmer. You can read through this thread a bit, a couple people have managed to do that.What i have to do now?
Thank you, i checked it out and i will try the programmer. However, i can see that all people that are having same problem are from 3 months ago. So the big question is, why MSI are not fixing that issue/update, and it is available on their official website?!? They do not read their forum in the community or what?!?... So sad, i am really disappointed from MSI, for the first time i am downloading the update from the official website of the manufacturer and i have that kind of problem. That is common for some Cheap Chinese products but not for one of the biggest companies in the sector...Either RMA the board through the vendor or MSI, or try to bring it back to life with an external flash programmer. You can read through this thread a bit, a couple people have managed to do that.
After identifying the BIOS chip on your board, you'd flash it with a device that you clamp onto it. You'd have to invest some time and money (though it's pretty cheap).
Yeah, of course i mean cheap Chinese no-name products, most of biggest brands are in China, South Korea, Japan. And they should read this forum as well, because it is in their official website... When they reply to my ticket, i will surely mention it!Yeah it's very unfortunate of them not to handle this properly as they should. They are not reading this forum, the main developers are in Taiwan, they have their own forums there, and i don't even know if they are on one of those. But they should've already put two and two together from the RMAs they're getting, dozens and dozens of Z490 with a bricked BIOS... i don't know what's holding them up. As for cheap Chinese products, you probably mean cheap Chinese no-name products, not big-brand products. Pretty much all electronics come from China or Taiwan nowadays, so that alone is not a sign of bad quality. There are some things MSI clearly need to improve on, that much is clear though.
What if MSI identified the issue in some bad batches of EEPROM and the solution to the issue is to RMA the board in order to receive a board with good EEPROM?Yeah it's very unfortunate of them not to handle this properly as they should.