!!! Warning: Z490 boards - problem with recent BIOS updates !!!

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There is a common problem with the latest BIOS updates for Z490 boards: The update seems to finish, the PC reboots, but then it's stuck with the EZ Debug LED "CPU" being on.

The danger has first appeared with the April/May 2021 BIOS update (changelog: "Improved Audio compatibility"), and may continue with newer updates as well, potentially causing the same issue: The board can become unusable / "bricked" because of a failed flash process.

Note that there is no risk of this with BIOS updates for MSI mainboards using other chipsets (like Z390, B460, Z590, B560, Z690, B660, X470, B450, X570, B550, and so on).
This can only happen on MSI Z490 boards. People with other boards can update normally.

The first reports about a Z490 BIOS update causing problems was at the beginning of May 2021: z490 Tomahawk CPU Debug LED Stuck on after latest BIOS update
Then in May 2021, this thread: Warning : V17 bios for Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi release Monday may brick your board., and several more after.

I have found no reports of problems with any of the earlier BIOS updates, only with the ones from mid-2021 and newer. Also, this problem doesn't happen all the time, otherwise this forum would be absolutely flooded with complaints. But it is a real danger, as you will see below when i list some of the affected users.

Normally i'm all for updating the BIOS, and i do it pretty much immediately on my boards whenever a new BIOS is released. And this Z490 issue is the first such problem i ever saw. But the main problem is: Unlike some newer-generation boards, most of the Z490 boards have no way of recovering from it. For most people, the only way to solve this would be to RMA the board, or try their luck with an external BIOS programming device. The only Z490 boards where it's no problem are the two sister boards MEG Z490 UNIFY and ACE, and the MEG Z490 GODLIKE, because those three have a USB Flashback function (Flash BIOS Button). There you can flash back to an older version and the board works again, or you can even flash the newest version until it works (once the BIOS is successfully flashed, even the three newest versions will work fine).

The newer Z590, Z690 and Z790 boards now almost all have a Flash BIOS Button (and corresponding USB port) on the rear I/O panel through which users can "force-flash" the BIOS in case of problems. So i guess MSI rather add that function everywhere now, instead of dealing with RMAs of bricked boards when something goes wrong. Once you have this "USB Flashback" feature on a board, a problem like this becomes harmless, because you can just re-flash the latest BIOS and make it work again.

I have researched about all the users i could find that have been affected by this, so everyone can see the full scope of the problem. I don't think i exaggerate when i claim that this is a huge problem for MSI and their reputation, and to my knowledge, they have not reacted until this day. They released the September BIOS update for Windows 11 compatibility, and while such an update went well on my Z590 board at the time, as expected (plus it has the safety net of the Flash USB Button), there are still reports of the similar Z490 update potentially causing this problem there. Each day, there are many people updating their BIOS on MSI mainboards without any issues, and only on Z490 boards we see this kind of problem.

As a longtime MSI user, this kind of problem with the Z490 boards is unacceptable, even if i don't have a Z490 board myself.
Therefore, i decided to try to bring further attention to it, so hopefully MSI can do something about it as soon as possible.

Update October 7, 2021: MSI are now seemingly aware of this issue, as was confirmed on a German forum by an official MSI account. I will update this post/thread if there is any progress.

Update October 29, 2021: A user received a link from MSI with a tool for manual flashing from the command line. However, this is just an interim solution if you absolutely want to update to the newest Z490 BIOS and reduce the risk of failure. We are still waiting for them to upload new BIOS updates where this potential problem is 100% fixed.

Update March 6, 2022: Still no solution from MSI.

Update August 17, 2023: Still nothing from MSI, although there are considerably less cases now than there have been two years ago, we barely get any new victims. So maybe the newest BIOS versions are way less problematic again. As for updating an MSI Z490 board, i now recommend using the Forum Flash Tool as linked here. There has been no corrupt Z490 BIOS reported with it yet.


If the problem already happened, the best do-it-yourself solution by far is this kind of method with an external flash programmer (bit more info here), it has a 100% success rate from what i have read so far. Meaning, more or less everyone that seriously tried that method could eventually flash their BIOS with it and get the board back to a working state. So for everyone wanting to avoid a possibly lengthy RMA process, this is a viable option. The programming device is quite cheap, but it involves a bit of research and spirit of adventure. Luckily, there are good guides about it on Youtube for example.


One final word: It is important not to be put off from doing BIOS updates altogether by this. BIOS updates fix bugs, add new features, and they even improve performance. It is extremely rare that a whole line of mainboard models has such a potential problem. So, nobody should conclude never to do any BIOS updates again, that would be the wrong thing to learn from this. Instead, once this problem is fixed for the Z490 boards, the BIOS updates can once again be an important way to make the system work better, faster, and with less bugs. On other boards with a Flash BIOS Button as a safety net, there is literally no reason to shy away from any BIOS updates. Even here with the Z490 boards, whenever users with the the boards Z490 ACE, UNIFY or GODLIKE were affected, they could easily recover from it using the Flash BIOS Button. This problem could only become so big because all the other Z490 board models from MSI didn't have the Flash BIOS Button yet.


Statistics:
Affected total users (from this list and from further replies to this thread): 183
Users that could fix it themselves using the Flash BIOS Button (
Z490 ACE/UNIFY/GODLIKE): 9
Users that could fix it themselves using an external programming device: 12
Users who did an RMA with the vendor or MSI for a fix/replacement: 56
RMA declined because of existing unrelated damage on the board: 4
Users that bought a new board themselves: 9
No further information / no RMA yet: 93

Users that updated via MSI Center / Dragon Center Live Update: 85
Users that updated via M-FLASH in the BIOS: 66
Update method unknown:
32


List of affected users i have found on the forum, as of first posting this thread:

(Roughly in chronological order)

User: @datz.bunz
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Bought a replacement board (ASUS)

User: @mace014ea02cd
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Got a replacement board

User: @dr_overflo153302df
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Bought a replacement board

User: @sixpackvbal129b02ae
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI, got his repaired board back

User: @mark.hadda156c02dd
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk?
CPU: 10850k
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C80v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @mickh5494
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @kenneth.cotma151802d1
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor, sent to MSI for repair

User: @anglnotre15dd02f0
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA, got his repaired board back with older BIOS vA6 on

User: @lesurvenan152302d4
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @sa3aa14e902d9
Date of failed flashing: May 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Goes "back to ASUS"

User: @jallu_col129b02ae
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied due to small scratch on the board. Bought a replacement board from different brand

User: @Own3d
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI

User: @luis.stuardo2151c02d3
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. It will be "his last board from MSI"

User: @tehjacku151402ce
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied by MSI (didn't go into detail), got a replacement through insurance

User: @mark.robinson198127b02ab
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @dj3for10
Date of failed flashing: June 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. "Contemplates life in front of dead PC"

User: @jwilby8160102f6
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @ferran.duarr157e02dd
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify
CPU: 11700
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @Rubik
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Successfully repaired it by using a BIOS programmer,

User: @janschulteortbec154a02d3
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490I Unify ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @hardcore_gamer29
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through service center, got his repaired board back

User: @yamei031154f02d7
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI

User: @saokirito93156102df
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI
CPU: 10600KF
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @jwilby8160102f6
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through vendor

User: @gmbeas160158102e0
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @mohdrodz15bf02ed
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA

User: @mikemauge154a02d7
Date of failed flashing: July 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: 10900
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v17
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI, got his repaired board back with BIOS v17 on

User: @xsketchyfruit12fc02b9
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Pro Plus
CPU: 10400
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @yxh93021154502dc
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Pro Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @John Eisberg
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 UNIFY
CPU: 10900K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA9
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Used "Flash BIOS Button" method to force-flash to BIOS vA8, board works again

User: @aaronpeigh
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 UNIFY
CPU: 10850K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA9
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Used "Flash BIOS Button" method to force-flash to BIOS vA8, board works again

User: @dan.pahal125b02a7
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10700K
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA

User: @amichele154f02db
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: vA8
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?

User: @j0sefuz115d402ee
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: v18
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @mikkl1620
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Tomahawk
CPU: 10600K
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA denied due to slightly bent pins in the CPU socket. Bought a replacement board "Z590 Tomahawk"

User: @yohan.vandevell154002e1
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Opened a ticket with MSI

User: @jonathan84012e802b5
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon Wifi
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @takocankol
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 ?
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

User: @christoph.urba128d02aa
Date of failed flashing: August 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Plus
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: MSI/Dragon Center Live Update
Attempted update to BIOS version: ?
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. Wants to attempt manual BIOS flash with CH341A EEPROM programmer,

User: @seeknay7415ae02f0
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI. "Very unlikely he will buy another MSI board after this"

User: @mastersap157d02db
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Carbon WIFI
CPU: ?
Flashing method used: ?
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update. RMA through MSI?, got a new board of the same model

User: @stro152c02d9
Date of failed flashing: September 2021
Affected board model: Z490 Gaming Edge
CPU: 10500
Flashing method used: M-FLASH
Attempted update to BIOS version: v19
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.



Everyone with the same problem on Z490 that doesn't find themselves on the list, feel free to reply here using the same format, here is a template:
Date of failed flashing:
Affected board model:
CPU:
Flashing method used:
Attempted update to BIOS version:
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.

Whenever i have seen your reply and included it in the statistics, i will give a "thumbs up" for it to thank you for your participation.

Also, feel free to refer to this thread in your communication with the vendor or with MSI. Hopefully MSI will finally start to recognize this problem and do something about it.

Someone asked me if they can thank me for my work by sending me something via Paypal: Yes, that's possible, just write me a message and i'll tell you my Paypal 😉
 
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I recently updated my bios via MSI dragon software and my PC wouldn't boot. All my fan lights, cpu cooler lights, cpu led light, fans turn on but absolutely no post on my screen.

Why is this issue so persistent with this dang board? It really is a hassle to fix this and a waste of time. I had to the my PC to the store and they even couldn't figure it out.

I went into some servers for suggestions and they advised that the new bios only works with 11th gen cpus with the new bios, so they are going g to try and put the new 11th gen cpu from their store and see if they can revert to an older bios to work again with my 10850k.

I already had my PC in the shop for a month. MSI will be crossed of my list forever if this doesn't work. They also send me an RMA to return in which I have to pay for shipping. WTF!
 
Please direct them to this topic. The newer BIOS only working with 11th gen CPUs is pure nonsense. The CPU support for 11th gen is added with a certain BIOS version, but support for 10th gen is never removed. It has nothing to do with any missing support. The simple fact is that the BIOS was corrupted during the flashing process.

The one and only way to fix your board (if it's not the Z490 UNIFY, ACE or GODLIKE with the Flash BIOS Button) is to flash it with an external flash programmer, see here.
Ask them if they can do that, or try it yourself, the flash programmers are cheap and there are guides on Youtube etc.

This fault is hard to figure out because they can swap parts all they want, they will never get it to boot unless they flash the BIOS chip again.
Of course MSI can do the same thing for you, they probably know that when a Z490 comes in for this fault, they have to flash the BIOS. But they won't admit anything publically.

Considering the shipping costs and the time they need, i would actually try to flash it myself with such a programming device.
 
Date of failed flashing: 10/08/2022
Affected board model: MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI
CPU: i9-10850K
Flashing method used: Updated through software installer that updates MSI software. It recommended a BIOS update.. pos..
Attempted update to BIOS version: from 7C79v17 to 7C79v1C
Result: black screen. no booting at all

So what can I do to fix this? Any suggestions? I'm desperate. I need my pc back asap!
 
Date of failed flashing: 10/08/2022
Affected board model: MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI
CPU: i9-10850K
Flashing method used: Updated through software installer that updates MSI software. It recommended a BIOS update.. pos..
Attempted update to BIOS version: from 7C79v17 to 7C79v1C
Result: black screen. no booting at all

So what can I do to fix this? Any suggestions? I'm desperate. I need my pc back asap!
There is a working suggestion, probably the best so far: Page 24
 
There is a working suggestion, probably the best so far: Page 24
I ordered one of those BIOS programmer boards and another motherboard in case this doesn't work. I've never had an issue with MSI motherboards ever. Maybe the problem is it came from China.. including the CPU.. I won't be updating any MSI BIOS anymore that don't really need it, thats for sure. The thing was running great too. I had just upgraded to Windows 11 and had nearly reinstalled all my software. I was feeling pretty confident with it and decide to update the BIOS because the Dragon software installer suggested it. Maybe its the software thats the problem. Probably should have downloaded the BIOS to a USB drive, then booted up into the BIOS and updated it there from the USB drive.
 
No, the MSI/Dragon Center is not the problem, as you can see from the first post. It doesn't matter how you update it, on MSI Z490 (and there alone!), there's this risk involved.

On other MSI boards, it's not only practically risk-free nowadays to update the BIOS (because there is no specific risk like on Z490, plus you got the safety net of the Flash BIOS Button), it's also highly advised, at least when the board is relatively new. The boards these days are released with a very immature BIOS, which then gets fixed and improved over the lifetime of the board. When you never update the BIOS, you will potentially suffer from all sorts of problems and shortcomings.
 
I ordered one of those BIOS programmer boards and another motherboard in case this doesn't work. I've never had an issue with MSI motherboards ever. Maybe the problem is it came from China.. including the CPU.. I won't be updating any MSI BIOS anymore that don't really need it, thats for sure. The thing was running great too. I had just upgraded to Windows 11 and had nearly reinstalled all my software. I was feeling pretty confident with it and decide to update the BIOS because the Dragon software installer suggested it. Maybe its the software thats the problem. Probably should have downloaded the BIOS to a USB drive, then booted up into the BIOS and updated it there from the USB drive.
I feel for you, absolutely. I myself only came upon this thread I already do not know by what accident in May, before buying a Z490 motherboard. If you have time to spare read through it and you will see this is a very specific problem, as citay points out. I updated BIOS through MSI Center on my previous B460 MB as easily as possible. As regards Z490 MSI motherboards, every single one is not afflicted, far from that, although I do not know exact figures, of course, it's a guess. These boards are sort of Schroedinger's cat: you do not know until you give it a try. Some are lucky, others aren't. There are examples of users, even in this thread, who went for the update quite intentionally, knowing all about the risk, and it turned out well for them.
 
I feel for you, absolutely. I myself only came upon this thread I already do not know by what accident in May, before buying a Z490 motherboard. If you have time to spare read through it and you will see this is a very specific problem, as citay points out. I updated BIOS through MSI Center on my previous B460 MB as easily as possible. As regards Z490 MSI motherboards, every single one is not afflicted, far from that, although I do not know exact figures, of course, it's a guess. These boards are sort of Schroedinger's cat: you do not know until you give it a try. Some are lucky, others aren't. There are examples of users, even in this thread, who went for the update quite intentionally, knowing all about the risk, and it turned out well for them.
To tell you how my month has been going. The good news, I contacted MSI tech support. The motherboard is under warranty so Im sending it back for them to reflash the BIOS. The bad news: I ordered a replacement board from Amazon. I got the z590 board, basically the upgrade to my z490 board. I put in the CPU, all the RAM, plugged in all the peripherals. Double checked everything (been doing this kind of stuff for nearly 40 yrs, so I'm experienced). Power it on, nothing happens then 3 seconds later, POW, something blows! It looked like the board shorted out or my power supply blew. I don't know what it was but from then on, nothing. I'm hoping it was the power supply. I'm also hoping my CPU and RAM is ok too. I tell you what, there's a negative energy in the neighborhood lately or something. I was going to just use the old board in another build when I got it back. Hopefully I can still do that since I ordered another CPU and RAM for it . I may have to use those for current machine. I swear... lol..
 
Power it on, nothing happens then 3 seconds later, POW, something blows! It looked like the board shorted out or my power supply blew.

Which PSU model was it and how old? But yeah, time to take out the board and the PSU. For the PSU, first try to look inside with a flashlight shining in from the exhaust grill, and you looking through the fan blades onto the PCB. Maybe you can already see some component that blew. If not, look at the motherboard, front and rear. Pay special attention to the VRM section around the CPU, and the 24-pin ATX and 8-pin CPU_PWR headers, see if you spot any charring or other signs of damage. If the board looks all good, it's back to the PSU, take the PSU's metal cover off (but don't touch anything inside) and see if you see any evidence of damage now. You can also make some photos and link them here.
 
Which PSU model was it and how old? But yeah, time to take out the board and the PSU. For the PSU, first try to look inside with a flashlight shining in from the exhaust grill, and you looking through the fan blades onto the PCB. Maybe you can already see some component that blew. If not, look at the motherboard, front and rear. Pay special attention to the VRM section around the CPU, and the 24-pin ATX and 8-pin CPU_PWR headers, see if you spot any charring or other signs of damage. If the board looks all good, it's back to the PSU, take the PSU's metal cover off (but don't touch anything inside) and see if you see any evidence of damage now. You can also make some photos and link them here.
It had a 700 watt power supply, I can't remember the model since I'm not there at the moment, but I went ahead and order a new one that's 750 watts. I'm getting this one Phanteks (PH-P750G_US01) AMP Series 750W 80PLUS Gold. I'm also returning the board back to Amazon and they're replacing it with the same model. It sounded like the pop came from around the power supply but looking at the board, it looked slightly burnt where you plug in the audio connectors which is next to the power supply. Whatever was there I rubbed off with my finger. It might have had something on the board. It looked ok after I rubbed it off. Nothing powered up except a case fan when I turned it on. Nothing around the CPU looked burnt or bad. I'm hoping the CPU is ok. I should have the new board tomorrow and the new power supply. I'll try this again. If it fails this time, well, lets hope that doesn't happen. Its been frustrating to say the least.. Its like I hit a streak of bad luck this month.
 
Chances are only one of the components was damaged and the rest survived. Of course it's also possible that two or more components got damage. But first i would've tried to find the fault. Burnt where you plug in the audio connectors? Maybe you connected some cables the wrong way and caused a short? It would need further investigation. But anyway, if you want, you can make a new thread about it, as it's not anymore about Z490 flashing problems and we want to keep this thread somewhat on topic 🙂
 
I updated with a special utility AFUWINx64 from under windows. Everything went fine, everything was stitched. I can post it if you're interested.
 

Unpack to disk C or D. Start the BIOS.bat from the administrator.
There's the latest bios for the Z490 Tomahawk inside 7C80v1C.
You can also sew other bios from MSI z490 by editing the .bat file and replacing the bios file in folder.
 

Unpack to disk C or D. Start the BIOS.bat from the administrator.
There's the latest bios for the Z490 Tomahawk inside 7C80v1C.
You can also sew other bios from MSI z490 by editing the .bat file and replacing the bios file in folder.
Thank you. I've saved it as an option for the future.
 

Descomprima en el disco C o D. Inicie BIOS.bat desde el administrador.
Hay la última biografía del Z490 Tomahawk dentro de 7C80v1C.
También puede coser otras bios de MSI z490 editando el archivo .bat y reemplazando el archivo de bios en la carpeta.
Hola, tengo MSI MPG Z490 GAMING EDGE WIFI
BIOS 7C79v1C
¿Cómo editar el archivo bat y reemplazar el archivo bios?
 
Date of failed flashing: 23/09/22
Affected board model: z490 gaming carbon wifi
CPU: i7-10700K
Flashing method used: dragon center
Attempted update to BIOS version: 7C73v17 or 7C73v18 (i don't remember) to 7C73v1C
Result: Stuck at EZ Debug LED "CPU" after update.
i opened a ticket with MSI and, after suggesting me to clear cmos, an action i have already try, they say the only solution is to ask for assistence/RMA, but they didn't do it directly in my country. so i just asked the reseller for rma and i'm now waiting to know if it will do it. i bought the mb about a year and half ago, so i'm not sure it will accept. i report my case for entry in the statistic, maybe it will help.
update on my case, i have obtained refound for my motherbord, fortunately warranty period wasn't expired . i have already bought a new one, always msi but a z590 type. hoping there will be no more problems in the future.
 
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