Win8 another Vista reincarnated ?

Bernhard

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Looking at the happenings at M$, do we have another Vista repeat in the making ? My gut feel says, wait for the follow on OS which may be the saviour just as Win7 was the saviour of Vista. I shall continue to watch all the Win8 issues from the sideline whilst using a stable Win7 with SP1  ;)

http://readwrite.com/2012/11/12/windows-boss-sinofsky-out-at-microsoft
 

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Win 8 is actually cool, but it is allot like vista there are many teething problem but many good things... They will probably strip the BS out and max a streamlined and efficent version called windows 9.
 

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Agree Bernhard. Vista 8 is a good description at present. BIOS revisions with Windows 8 functions involved? Even the latest M$ Windows 7 update had an item for Windows 8 although it should detect that only W7 is being used. I didn't load it and hide it so it wouldn't show up again. With well over a dozen operational rigs, a couple of them will be content to run XP SP3 and the rest will remain W7 SP1. The RTM I have was interesting to play with, but it's not for me. :-))
 

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Oh, don't get me started on the win 8 features, if you enable that you need to re-install window on a reformatted Hdd in UEFI mode. Pain in the arse it is, but, with the win 8 features disable win 8 works very well and some of the subtle changes work very nicely.
 

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Although Windows 8 is much much better than Vista, and also has significant improvements over Windows 7 (Mainly in Speed, Apps, Features), I still think that they need to streamline the experience, especially for keyboard/mouse users (without a touch screen). Whether these will be given in a new service pack or Windows 9, nobody knows...

- Yash
 
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Just a little question; on November 5th I bought Windows 8 online and also ordered the installation disc. On November 12th Microsoft emailed me they were sending the disc. I hated W8 so much that I uninstalled it and 4 days ago I phoned Microsoft and told them that not only had I uninstalled it but the disc had never arrived. They agreed to give me a refund and I had to click an ELOD (electronic letter of destruction) for the download. I received the refund yesterday.
This morning the Windows 8 disc popped through my letterbox" Sealed , containing 32 and 64 bit discs.
My question is - what is the status of this disc? I don't want Windows 8 anywhere near me so it has no more value to me than a beer mat. But if I gave it to a friend would it work on their PC?
 

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Without a 'key', they are almost worthless. I would destroy them if it is possible for M$ to track someone trying to use them. It will point right to you, and I don't think you want M$ after you do you?
 
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Microsoft don't scare me lol. I guess you are probably right. It did occur to me to do a video for Youtube called "Burning A Windows 8 Disc" and do literally that.  :idea:
 

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Froggy Gremlin said:
Without a 'key', they are almost worthless. I would destroy them if it is possible for M$ to track someone trying to use them. It will point right to you, and I don't think you want M$ after you do you?
they are no embedded serial in those DVD
 

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But the 'key' given to activate them is known. PinzaC55 has the right idea. Burn 'em! :lol_anim:
 

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How to burn a W8 disc:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJjIUUIyMBo

                :grin:
 

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Froggy Gremlin said:
But the 'key' given to activate them is known. PinzaC55 has the right idea. Burn 'em! :lol_anim:
the key don't activate the dvd, it activate Windows,  you can use the same DVD to update 1000 Windows, as long as you have 1000 keys , the key MS give him are not bind to those DVD
 

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Area 66 said:
the key don't activate the dvd, it activate Windows,  you can use the same DVD to update 1000 Windows, as long as you have 1000 keys , the key MS give him are not bind to those DVD
Yeah yeah yeah! Thanks for the educational forensic lesson and the precise corrections of my statements to ensure there is absolutely no doubt pertaining to the M$ OS disk(s)! :-P)

Next time, I will be picture perfect in my replies. ;)

Added: We almost forgot! There is usually a no risk trial period usually for 30 days that requires no activation & no key is necessary! :pompom:

I guess my point was without a key, the disks are as good as useless after the trial period. If somebody is skinflint cheap enough to install the OS every 29 or 30 days to beat the activation requirement, then my hat goes off to their extreme frugalness! :rolleyes:
 

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Froggy Gremlin said:
Added: We almost forgot! There is usually a no risk trial period usually for 30 days that requires no activation & no key is necessary! :pompom:
well,  since it's a tread about Windows 8, I feel the need to say that you can't  use a 30 days grace period with Windows 8, you have to provide a serial at install and it will activate right away , you can't continue the install unless you enter the 25 alpha numeric key. 
 

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Like I said in Reply #12, 'usually', so there you have it world! No 30 day trial period with Windows 8....er....ah....Vista 8!
 
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I should have been more specific - there was no mention of a "trial period", at least that I can remember - I bought it, as an upgrade to my existing Windows 7 Pro 32/64 bit discs. There's a consumer law in the UK (the Distance Selling Regulations) which states that anything bought online - whether an object or a digital download has to be of "merchantable quality" ie it should do what it is supposed to. Obviously it was my own fault that I didn't read or watch any reviews of W8 and find out what a crock it was before I bought it, but the DVD's taking over 20 days to arrive in the UK mainland from Ireland is another matter.
I cannot remember for sure but I think I enter the product key from my Windows 7 box? At any rate when I phoned Microsoft I got through to the usual Indian call centre and the guy there spoke such appalling English that I could barely understand him, but he sent me an email which linked me to the Microsoft site where I had to click on the Electronic Letter Of Destruction to get the refund. The conditions to the ELOD said it would "destroy my product key" and I was naturally alarmed whether it stop my Windows 7 from working, so I phoned Microsoft again and they said it wouldn't. Like I said the blasted thing is no use to me but I am always reluctant to chuck gear away if there's nothing wrong with it and it could be useful to someone else.
 

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Windows 8 should have been sold/marketed for tablets and touchscreen PCs only. Or programmed in such a way that if the installer didn't detect a touchscreen input, then it would setup a 'traditional' desktop interface, rather than the clunky 'Metro' interface, which is only really useful on touchscreen devices.

My advice would be to stick with Windows 7, if you have a 'standard' desktop or notebook PC, and resist the temptation to join the sheep flocking to Windows 8, just because "it's newer". Windows 7 may be barely three years old, but look how long Windows XP lasted as the 'tried and tested' desktop operating system.
 
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The problem is that if you go into a high street shop such as the UK chain Currys you will see shelves of laptops (they don't sell desktops any more) each with Windows 8 on its screen. If they keep it up we Windows 7 users will be like Trekkies.
 
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