Windows 11 no longer activated after bios upgrade

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I updated my bios 3 days ago hoping it would fix some usb issues I was having. Now my windows install is no longer activated (OEM key). Any one else got this problem?
How do you fix it?
Trouble shoot windows activations does not help.
entering the same key also does not work.

So any idea how to fix this and is this a f**-up from MSI bios update?
 
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Yesterday, I had the same problem. MEG Z690 UNIFY updated from 1.90 to 1.B0, and the activation was gone and couldn't be reactivated. I told people about that problem on the official MS Forum, and people couldn't believe the loss of activation. Luckily, after reentering the Windows key, Windows was activated.
Please see Video
If you have a true retail license (typical cost over US$100) then the solution is that you re-enter the Product Key which came with that license. If it won't reactivate, you might have paid a lower price for a different type of license (sometimes called "OEM") which is only allowed to be used on one PC where it was first installed. The unfortunate thing is that flashing a motherboard BIOS can make Microsoft think it is a different PC, causing the trouble when attempting to re-activate. Again, a true retail license should re-activate (because the terms say you can move the license to a new PC).
 
I answered my own question.

I tried the procedure in the video. It did NOT solve the problem.

I purchased a third-party retail license. That fixed it.

MSI, this is very poor. You need to fix this.
All you had to do was when activating, select changed hardware, and it will be activated.
Worst care contact Microsoft and they will activate it for you, as long as you know the activation key.

Every time I update my BIOS I have to reactivate Windows. So now they don't even ask for my key they just do it lol.
 
All you had to do was when activating, select changed hardware, and it will be activated.
Worst care contact Microsoft and they will activate it for you, as long as you know the activation key.

Every time I update my BIOS I have to reactivate Windows. So now they don't even ask for my key they just do it lol.

No. That did not work.

I spent hours on the phone/chat with Microsoft, (I think I mentioned that I talked to 12 different Microsoft people) who took me through the Activation Trouble Shooting and Changed Hardware routine at least a half dozen time. They were and are still stumped. I have a call scheduled tomorrow.

The only thing that worked was buying another retail license. MSI needs to fix this.
 
If you have a true retail license (typical cost over US$100) then the solution is that you re-enter the Product Key which came with that license. If it won't reactivate, you might have paid a lower price for a different type of license (sometimes called "OEM") which is only allowed to be used on one PC where it was first installed. The unfortunate thing is that flashing a motherboard BIOS can make Microsoft think it is a different PC, causing the trouble when attempting to re-activate. Again, a true retail license should re-activate (because the terms say you can move the license to a new PC).

Those aren't the only possibilities.

I had a retail license for Windows 10 Pro which qualified me for a free upgrade to Windows 11 Pro when it came out. I used that. Since then I have rebuilt with three new motherboards, including the MSI MAG Z790 ACE I have now. Activation was possible every time.

The problem came when I upgraded the BIOS. What happened was exactly what was described above. Windows boots up with the message that "Security settings have changed" and has me reset my PIN. I didn't think much of that. But from that time on my Windows 11 Pro was no longer activated, and nothing I could do nor that Microsoft could suggest would get it activated. I used a program (ShowKey) that pulled up my Win 10 Pro product key, but it did not work ("Cannot activate with this product key").

If I had done the procedure described in the video - disabling fTPM and rebooting before updating the BIOS - I might have avoided the trouble. As it was, after several days of chatting and talking with twelve different Microsoft experts, there was still no way to activate Windows. I had to waste money on another retail license.
 
I would like to politely request that anyone who is inclined to post "you just need a retail license", or "you just need to go through reactivation with hardware change", PLEASE read carefully the posts on here about this problem. A number of people, including myself, have described the situation of ending up with non-activated Windows despite having retail licenses and despite having gone through the hardware change reactivation procedure.

There is a real problem here, it isn't just people not knowing what they are doing. I have been building my own computer systems for thirty years, and I have never had anything like this happen before.

The video is helpful if you don't have the problem yet, and are thinking about updating the BIOS (which shouldn't be such a perilous thing to do). But once you're de-activated, the video does not help you get activated again.

My MSI MAG Z790 Ace appeared to be the only choice for the capabilities I wanted. I'm really wondering now if it was a good choice after all.
 
Those aren't the only possibilities.

I had a retail license for Windows 10 Pro which qualified me for a free upgrade to Windows 11 Pro when it came out. I used that. Since then I have rebuilt with three new motherboards, including the MSI MAG Z790 ACE I have now. Activation was possible every time.

The problem came when I upgraded the BIOS. What happened was exactly what was described above. Windows boots up with the message that "Security settings have changed" and has me reset my PIN. I didn't think much of that. But from that time on my Windows 11 Pro was no longer activated, and nothing I could do nor that Microsoft could suggest would get it activated. I used a program (ShowKey) that pulled up my Win 10 Pro product key, but it did not work ("Cannot activate with this product key").

If I had done the procedure described in the video - disabling fTPM and rebooting before updating the BIOS - I might have avoided the trouble. As it was, after several days of chatting and talking with twelve different Microsoft experts, there was still no way to activate Windows. I had to waste money on another retail license.
In that situation the key displayed with such utilities is typically the "generic" product key for that latest version of Windows (such as the one which ends in -3V66T). The key you need to re-enter is the key that came with your retail Windows 10 Pro. I know it is happening, it happens to me exactly as you describe, after some potentially automatic reactivations you need to have the original key. Retail keys (which came with license wording allowing transfer to new PC) will work, non-retail keys (which didn't have such wording in the license) eventually won't re-activate. Toggling the fTPM helps avoid the settings change reset PIN thing but I can't say whether it helps the reactivation thing. They may be related since BIOS updates to my Intel NUC don't require PIN update nor re-activation (which was my original complaint about MSI before some user posted the fTPM toggle thing). My experience is based upon having purchased around 18 retail copies of Windows 7-11 for my family and church, half used on MSI Z490-Z790 motherboards and the other half split across Intel NUCs and Intel motherboards such as Z77. Same number of years as you building my own PCs (starting with Intel's "Batman" motherboard, before that I'd buy Compaq PCs).
 
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Those aren't the only possibilities.

I had a retail license for Windows 10 Pro which qualified me for a free upgrade to Windows 11 Pro when it came out. I used that. Since then I have rebuilt with three new motherboards, including the MSI MAG Z790 ACE I have now. Activation was possible every time.

The problem came when I upgraded the BIOS. What happened was exactly what was described above. Windows boots up with the message that "Security settings have changed" and has me reset my PIN. I didn't think much of that. But from that time on my Windows 11 Pro was no longer activated, and nothing I could do nor that Microsoft could suggest would get it activated. I used a program (ShowKey) that pulled up my Win 10 Pro product key, but it did not work ("Cannot activate with this product key").

If I had done the procedure described in the video - disabling fTPM and rebooting before updating the BIOS - I might have avoided the trouble. As it was, after several days of chatting and talking with twelve different Microsoft experts, there was still no way to activate Windows. I had to waste money on another retail license.
Out of interest do you have more than one Microsoft account on the same machine and do you have all your Windows keys on the same account?
Just interested as never had the problem crop up and I have several Win Pro Retail Keys all Digital attached to the same account.
 
Just interested as never had the problem crop up and I have several Win Pro Retail Keys all Digital attached to the same account.
I realize you are not asking me, but I wanted to chime in to point out that your situation may have been such retail key linked early to a Microsoft account. Rather than key which might have been used for a "local account" and then marked as something like "digital entitlement" for that particular PC hardware such as during a version upgrade, before possibly being linked to a Microsoft account (later).
 
I realize you are not asking me, but I wanted to chime in to point out that your situation may have been such retail key linked early to a Microsoft account. Rather than key which might have been used for a "local account" and then marked as something like "digital entitlement" for that particular PC hardware such as during a version upgrade, before possibly being linked to a Microsoft account (later).
Been pretty much using the same Window Pro Retail Keys since Win 8
I have 5 PC all on the same account all with Pro Retail Digital Keys only two of the keys were purchased with Win 10 PRO OEM on the machine and updated to WIN 10 Retail Pro
 
I've had this issue even with a brand new license, bought direct from the Microsoft website.....something I'll never do again. They took the best part of 7 hours on chat going through all the normal tests (change of hardware, etc.) and still could/would not reactivate my license (even though they could clearly see that I'd got the transaction on my account purchase history, and had already gone through all their checks to verify who I was). They ended up basically asking me "what about this other PC on your account, do you still use that? No? Ok, we can transfer that old license to your current PC then"....that was their "solution"....ignore the £100+ license that I'd bought specifically for this build, and disable an old PC that wasn't being used anymore.

Next bios update, same thing happened, and I didn't fancy sitting through hours of chat with them again, only to find that they still can't/won't re-activate windows (as I don't have any OTHER old PC's that aren't being used. I really don't understand why they can't just look at the hardware that the license was activated on (e.g., 12700k, z690 MSI, etc....verify you are the owner of the license, then just de-activate the license and provide a new one in instances like this. The "service" I received from Microsoft has ensure that I'll never buy a license direct again.

My own fix for the last time this happened was to just buy a new license for about 3 quid on another website.....even if this eventually gets de-activated, it'll be cheaper to do this 30 times over than to buy direct from Microsoft, and at least it actually works.

Having said all this, it would seem that this is not an issue that "MSI need to fix", as it's not a problem exclusive to MSI boards. If you search online, you'll find cases like this from all motherboard manufacturers. The fact that disabling the tpm before updating the bios could prevent the error (this info was too late for me) suggests that this is just a symptom of modern security doing it's job....so not even a fault as such, just extremely annoying for the consumer.

If you ask me, if anyone needs to "fix" anything.....it's Microsoft. It's their software that is having the activation issue, and they are the ones providing the licenses. Unfortunately, they don't seem to care to address the problem.....which is bad for everyone, including them, as they now lose out from people like me who will never buy another license from them again. If they can't prevent the issue from occurring, then they should seriously consider changing how these cases are dealt with. In my case, they could clearly see that I'd purchased the license, so it should have been no issue at all for them to either re-activate windows, or deactivate that license completely and supply a new one.

Only other thing I'd add, is on the point of "you should use the product key provided with the license"....I bought my license direct from the Microsoft website. They never sent me any code or key. At all. It is all handled directly in windows. You go through the windows settings to buy the license, it re-directs you to the website and upon completing payment, takes you back to the windows settings where you can see that it's now activated. Only email I ever received was an order receipt. I've never been given and literal code. So while this advice might work for a license bought in a physical store, where you get a code on a piece of card in a box, it will not work for anyone that's paid directly in windows.
 
Had the same issue and other MOBOs and brands are also affected! ARGH!

Has anyone tried the TPM disable steps and did another FW update without the same issue?
 
Had the same issue and other MOBOs and brands are also affected! ARGH!

Has anyone tried the TPM disable steps and did another FW update without the same issue?
Ya I did a search on the problem and it goes on for quite a few several years at least back to 2015
Bios update kills win 10 install key
 
Only other thing I'd add, is on the point of "you should use the product key provided with the license"....I bought my license direct from the Microsoft website. They never sent me any code or key. At all. It is all handled directly in windows. You go through the windows settings to buy the license, it re-directs you to the website and upon completing payment, takes you back to the windows settings where you can see that it's now activated. Only email I ever received was an order receipt. I've never been given and literal code. So while this advice might work for a license bought in a physical store, where you get a code on a piece of card in a box, it will not work for anyone that's paid directly in windows.
If the price is the same, instead of such "App", potential customers should consider purchasing by going to https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11 and clicking "Buy Windows 11" under the "Get Windows" heading. Supposedly that gives you a product key in the confirmation email that contains the order history (there are other well known retailers with similar prices over US$100 which Q&A/reviewers also describe as providing keys in email shortly after purchase). The App store method seems to be dependent on things like linking to Microsoft account and hoping that you don't need a BIOS update etc.
 
Hello,
Here is how things happened in my case. It is worse for some of you but there is something odd anyway.
Until now my licence is still active but I am not relaxed each time I update BIOS because of this known problem.
End 2012 or early 2013 I got a W8 DVD in blue cardbox sleeve with OEM licence (paid about 100€, the retail box was more expensive). I activated with the given genuine product key on the new build. Then the license has been moved into W8.1, then W10, then W11 finally on my 2023 new build (see attached picture).
In may 2023 I built a new PC. Z790i MB was loaded with BIOS v1.3 and I updated to latest 1.4 prior W11 installation. As expected, I had to troubleshoot and tell that I changed hardware but in the end it was activated again.
Before updating to BIOS v1.5, I followed the toggle fTPM thing as the video suggest and I had to reset my PIN. Then I updated to 1.5 and but in the end it was activated again without need to select the "hardware change route" but not immediately.
Last week I updated to v1.6 BIOS. I did not toggle fTPM again since the video tells to do it only once. I updated BIOS directly. Then lost W11 activation and I had to reset my PIN again and choose the "hardware change" option. W11 is activated again but I am not confident that it will be the case next time.
I don't thinh it makes sense that BIOS update is considered as hardware change. TPM, secure boot and the likes are probably a relief for Microsoft and industry generally but I doubt that it will restrain people with bad intentions a lot. And for the end user who pay for their licence it is not hasslefree.
 

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No. That did not work.

I spent hours on the phone/chat with Microsoft, (I think I mentioned that I talked to 12 different Microsoft people) who took me through the Activation Trouble Shooting and Changed Hardware routine at least a half dozen time. They were and are still stumped. I have a call scheduled tomorrow.

The only thing that worked was buying another retail license. MSI needs to fix this.

It's not an MSI problem, it's a Microsoft problem. Updating the BIOS makes Windows think it's been installed on a new system. As others have said, if you upgraded from Windows 7/8/10 to 11, then your product key is the Windows key for the OS you upgraded from. Mine is the Windows key I upgraded from originally.
 
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Yeah, I've done this as I had a load of the same version of my PC because of BIOS updates. It didn't help me with my last BIOS update but doesn't mean it wouldn't work for others.
 
Out of interest do you have more than one Microsoft account on the same machine and do you have all your Windows keys on the same account?
Just interested as never had the problem crop up and I have several Win Pro Retail Keys all Digital attached to the same account.

My Microsoft account shows three machines with three different licensed Windows copies, two with Windows 11 Home and one with Windows 11 Pro. As far as I know I've never had more than one digital license linked to my main computer, which is the one that had the problem.
 
It's not an MSI problem, it's a Microsoft problem. Updating the BIOS makes Windows think it's been installed on a new system. As others have said, if you upgraded from Windows 7/8/10 to 11, then your product key is the Windows key for the OS you upgraded from. Mine is the Windows key I upgraded from originally.

Yet I've replaced the motherboard three times and updated the BIOS many times with one retail copy of Windows 11, and I've never had this problem before.

I think it is an MSI problem.
 
In that situation the key displayed with such utilities is typically the "generic" product key for that latest version of Windows (such as the one which ends in -3V66T). The key you need to re-enter is the key that came with your retail Windows 10 Pro. I know it is happening, it happens to me exactly as you describe, after some potentially automatic reactivations you need to have the original key. Retail keys (which came with license wording allowing transfer to new PC) will work, non-retail keys (which didn't have such wording in the license) eventually won't re-activate. Toggling the fTPM helps avoid the settings change reset PIN thing but I can't say whether it helps the reactivation thing. They may be related since BIOS updates to my Intel NUC don't require PIN update nor re-activation (which was my original complaint about MSI before some user posted the fTPM toggle thing). My experience is based upon having purchased around 18 retail copies of Windows 7-11 for my family and church, half used on MSI Z490-Z790 motherboards and the other half split across Intel NUCs and Intel motherboards such as Z77. Same number of years as you building my own PCs (starting with Intel's "Batman" motherboard, before that I'd buy Compaq PCs).

If it's a generic product key, it seems odd that it was a Windows 10 Pro key, as I'm running Windows 11 Pro.

I don't have the original Windows 10 key. It's been quite a few years since I installed it. I'm pretty sure it was a paid upgrade from a previous version of Windows, maybe 7 or 8. It's been a long time.
 
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