Windows 11 Question (TPM? -> External TPM Module = Not Mandatory)

laurence1211

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Hi!
I'm from Chile, excuse my English.

I have a TPM 2.0 module (MS-4136) with firmware 5.61. I am aware that there is a vulnerability regarding this firmware version. For this reason, most equipment manufacturers released a firmware update to version 5.63.

MSI sells this TPM 2.0 (MS-4136) as of today, with firmware 5.63.

I have looked everywhere for an MSI utility to update the firmware but nothing formally appears on the MSI page.




Greetings to all
This is the best i could find for msi, you might want to contact support and see if you can get them to update things. That said if you know what you are doing you could get the bin file from else where and update, as its the same chip just different pin outs. But you do need to get the right bin file just like it says in that asus forum post. Firmware link
 
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Este es el mejor que pude encontrar para msi, es posible que desee ponerse en contacto con el soporte técnico y ver si puede obtener que actualicen las cosas. Dicho esto, si sabes lo que estás haciendo, podrías obtener el archivo bin de otro lugar y actualizarlo, ya que es el mismo chip solo diferentes salidas de pines. Pero necesitas conseguir el archivo de bin correcto justo cuando dice en aquel asus correo de foro. Firmware enlace
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Aparentemente son el mismo chip.

¿Diferentes arreglos de pines? No sé.

Si es así, existe la posibilidad de que el firmware de ASUS no funcione para este módulo TPM.

Desde MSI no hay soporte para actualizar el firmware a la versión 5.63
 
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Is that a MSI module?
What motherboard and CPU do you have?
I have MSI Z270I GAMING PRO CARBON AC + Core i7 7700K, 32 GB DDR4, RTX 3060ti, Samsung 1TB SSD 970Pro.
TPM 2.0 MSI MS-4136 firmware 5.61.

Windows 11 will most likely extend its support for 7th gen processors.
 

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They are apparently the same chip.

Different pin arrangements? I do not know.

If so, there is a possibility that the ASUS firmware will not work for this TPM module.

From MSI there is no support to update the firmware to version 5.63
The only firmware upload from msi i can find goes to 5.62. The Asus firmware will work but you have to be able to make that happen. You should contact msi support and ask them for an update.
 

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Hello, please don´t You know if it is possible also on H97 Gaming 3 board?
In advanced settings there is no option about TPM.
But this MB also have connector for separate TPM chip.
Thanx.
Hello, please don´t You know if it is possible also on H97 Gaming 3 board?
In advanced settings there is no option about TPM.
But this MB also have connector for separate TPM chip.
Thanx.
H97 Gaming3(MS-7918) + i7-4790k + Windows 11, without TPM Module
Thanks all in Google.
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No,
I am a taiwanese rookei,
NOT chinese hacker.
I searched Google for all message.
In fact, I don't know how it did sucess suddenly.
I was talking about your windows, not about you. :biggrin:
In any case, there is no TPM 2.0/PTT support for CPUs older than the 6th generation.
So without dedicated TPM module, you don't have any security enabled.
Not to mention that your Windows might stop working after the first "official" update.
;)
 

changhibik156502da

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I was talking about your windows, not about you. :biggrin:
In any case, there is no TPM 2.0/PTT support for CPUs older than the 6th generation.
So without dedicated TPM module, you don't have any security enabled.
Not to mention that your Windows might stop working after the first "official" update.
;)
Maybe you are right.
So I need Google & Forum & all you pioneers. 😅
 

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I have a MSI Z590 Gaming Carbon WiFi MB with a i7-10700K CPU. Everything I've read says that I SHOULD be able to implement firmware TPM, but so far I have been unable to do so. I have both PTT and Secure Boot enabled in the BIOS (latest version), but all tests I've done (MS PC Health Check, etc) still tell me that TPM is not active. What am I missing? Are there also some settings somewhere within Windows? Or additional BIOS settings to check?

Also, does anyone know if I have to use a MSI TPM module if it comes to that? According to MSI tech support, the MS-4462 TPM 2.0 module works with my board. Unfortunately, it is current impossible to get one (even from MSI). If another manufacturer (Asus, Intel, etc) makes a similar 12-pin TPM 2.0 module, would that still work on my MB? MSI tech support so far refuses to give me an answer on that.
 

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Good Luck getting an actual TPM module. I had one ordered and ready to ship, the seller pulled the order because they figured they could jack the price up on it.
 

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Good Luck getting an actual TPM module. I had one ordered and ready to ship, the seller pulled the order because they figured they could jack the price up on it.
Again though, is it MANDATORY to use a MSI TPM module? Or can a 12-pin module from another company work just as well?

And aside from having PTT and Secure Boot enabled in the BIOS, are there any other changes I need to make?
 

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PTT and secure boot were enough for me to do my 11 upgrade through the Insider's program.
 
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