Windows 11 Question (TPM? -> External TPM Module = Not Mandatory)

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Note. Below information is based on current latest Microsoft release document (2021/06/25)
Windows Requirement
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Secure Boot capable (Not necessarily to be enabled)
TPM version 2.0 (fTPM or dTPM) - Discrete TPM card is NOT mandatory when fTPM works

For information of MSI TPM 2.0 card (dTPM)
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/TPM-20-Module

Test your compatibility with Windows 11
Windows Official Test Tool (Removed by Microsoft)
Alternative: WhyNotWin11
https://github.com/rcmaehl/WhyNotWin11/releases/latest/download/WhyNotWin11.exe

Step to enable relative BIOS options, you can check the video below. (fTPM)

Intel Platform
BIOS\Settings\Security\Trusted Computing\TPM Device Selection
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AMD Platform
BIOS\Settings\Security\Trusted Computing\AMD fTPM switch
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For newer PRO series motherboard (Intel 500s or later), security section is not under BIOS\Settings
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To verify TPM is enabled in windows, press [Windows]+[R] key, and run "tpm.msc". "TPM Management" will show the TPM version of your system.
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For more detail information, you can visit Microsoft website.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11

TPM 2.0 (fTPM) Compatible Motherboard

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This is NOT a Win11 compatible motherboard list, it simply means the motherboard BIOS supports fTPM
Intel
SeriesChipsetCPU Supported
500 SeriesZ590 / B560 / H51010th / 11th Gen
400 SeriesZ490 / B460 / H41010th / 11th Gen
300 SeriesZ390 / Z370 / B365 / B360 / H370 / H3108th / 9th Gen
200 SeriesZ270 / B250 / H2706th / 7th Gen
100 SeriesZ170 / B150 / H170 / H1106th / 7th Gen
X299X299X-series 10000/9000/78xx
AMD
SeriesChipset
500 SeriesX570S / X570 / B550 / A520
400 SeriesX470 / B450
300 SeriesX370 / B350 / A320
TR4 SeriesTRX40 / X399
Link to fTPM BIOS function support motherboard

Unable to boot into operating system once updating to new Windows 11 compatible BIOS
1. Change BIOS\Settings\Advanced\BIOS CSM/UEFI Mode from UEFI to CSM mode
2. Convert storage partition style
3. Change BIOS\Settings\Advanced\BIOS CSM/UEFI Mode from CSM to UEFI mode again
 
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Hi, and HELP!

I decided to build a computer for my Teen, they do a lot of computer amination and video editing. I'm moderately knowledgeable with computers, but no expert.

I did check my parts for compatibility with an online tool prior to purchase. I used a MSI Mag X570S Tomahawk max WiFi motherboard, with an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X CPU, 64GB RAM, GeForce 3060Ti GPU, and a 2TB M.2 SSD. I've got a flash drive with Windows 11 home for the OS. Mechanically the build went well.

My first boot I get the 'your system doesn't meet the requirements for Windows 11' error (forget the exact wording.) I go to the internet and start searching. Seems to be a common issue, lots of videos talking about it.

I understand I need to go into the BIOS under Windows configuration and turn on UEFI (done), and then go into security and turn on TPM. I also saw some suggest I needed to turn on Secure Boot, but others said it was optional. I turned it on.

Here's my problem: No matter how many times I turn on Security Device - Enable, AMD CPU fTPM, with device select set to either TMP 2.0, or Auto, I can't get a status page that look like the MSI How To page here
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My screen still looks like it's turned off, and does not show any TPM device. Like this (snipped from a How To video on YouTube)-

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It says it's enabled, but doesn't find a TMP device.

I do not have an external TMP device, but I don't think I should need one?

Yes, I'm saving (F10, yes) before existing.

Every time I try to install Windows I keep getting the error.

Any thoughts? I'd really like to get this rig up and running.

Thanks!!

John
 
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jamoscatell155302d5 said:
Hi, and HELP!

I decided to build a computer for my Teen, they do a lot of computer amination and video editing. I'm moderately knowledgeable with computers, but no expert.

I did check my parts for compatibility with an online tool prior to purchase. I used a MSI Mag X570S Tomahawk max WiFi motherboard, with an AMD Ryzen 9 5900X CPU, 64GB RAM, GeForce 3060Ti GPU, and a 2TB M.2 SSD. I've got a flash drive with Windows 11 home for the OS. Mechanically the build went well.

My first boot I get the 'your system doesn't meet the requirements for Windows 11' error (forget the exact wording.) I go to the internet and start searching. Seems to be a common issue, lots of videos talking about it.

I understand I need to go into the BIOS under Windows configuration and turn on UEFI (done), and then go into security and turn on TPM. I also saw some suggest I needed to turn on Secure Boot, but others said it was optional. I turned it on.

Here's my problem: No matter how many times I turn on Security Device - Enable, AMD CPU fTPM, with device select set to either TMP 2.0, or Auto, I can't get a status page that look like the MSI How To page here
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Your screenshot shows an old BIOS (A6).
Update to the latest one (you need at least A8).
 
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Thanks. I did say those pictures were from other sources, not my computer.

As shipped my board had the following BIOS:
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I went and got the latest (not Beta) BIOS from the website and flashed the BIOS. THis is what I got after flashing it.

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That solved the problem. As soon as I opened the BIOS it recognized a TMP 2.0 device and I was able to load Windows 11.
 
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Hi, my board is a non-max version b450 morta, running 3700x, just updated the new beta bios for win11. Currently, xmp is not working as well as overlocking ram in the ryzen master. Moreover, the system restart is not working and I can only boot my system in the second attempt, I always have a black screen and no hard drive activity on my first attempt. I understand this is a beta version for non-max version, I just hope my problems are awared.
 
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charlesningb15e202ed said:
Hi, my board is a non-max version b450 morta, running 3700x, just updated the new beta bios for win11. Currently, xmp is not working as well as overlocking ram in the ryzen master. Moreover, the system restart is not working and I can only boot my system in the second attempt, I always have a black screen and no hard drive activity on my first attempt. I understand this is a beta version for non-max version, I just hope my problems are awared.
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Hi Charles, I have a similar problem. If I try to restart my pc it get stuck, fans and lights are on but keyboard and monitor are off, I have to switch off the psu brutally. Is this the same problem as yours?
 
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sommaenr152c02d4 said:
Hi Charles, I have a similar problem. If I try to restart my pc it get stuck, fans and lights are on but keyboard and monitor are off, I have to switch off the psu brutally. Is this the same problem as yours?
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I guess we have a similar problem, I have a restart button on my case's front panel, usually I just press that and the system will boot.
 
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charlesningb15e202ed said:
I guess we have a similar problem, I have a restart button on my case's front panel, usually I just press that and the system will boot.
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I think I’ll downgrade to an old bios version… if you shut down your pc from start-shutdown and then you power on the pc, does it boot normally? I often have monitor and keyboard off and pc running even in this case, does this happen to you too?
 
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laurence1211 said:
Rejoice!
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LOL...Initially, I was awfully hesitant as well!

Truth be told, if I had my way, I'd still be running Windows 7, and really wasn't enthralled with Win 10. However, because of the reported performance increases for Intel's new chip & architecture, I decided to load Win 11 on my new rig. Ah, it's taken some getting used to but since I've been using Macs for quite long time and very comfortable with iOS, it sort of reminds me of that type of user interface. So, after a week or two, I kind of like it! Anyway, I prefer it over Win 10.

The performance, at least thus far, is very snappy.
 
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Hello,
I have a Z790 ACE, I want to add the discrete TPM module 2.0 to my set-up (not interested on opinions if it is necessary or not).

The motherboard manual narrows it to a twelve pin module, so a choice of TPM 2.0 (MS-4462) or TPM 2.0 (9672). The images on the MSI website (TPM Modules) show two different hardware with the same part number MS-4462. The compatibility chart on the MSI website suggests either will work, TPM MSI Motherboard Compatibility List

The crazy thing here is that MSI appear to have given two different versions of the hardware the same model number. Can I find a TPM 2.0 with the newer SLB 9672 chip in the UK? Nope, plenty of version 1.0 hardware and clones on the market. Why do MSI make it so difficult?
 
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Have been on Insider since the start, currently in the Canary branch and Beta branch. They are ok to play with, don't try using it for your main system.
 
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dvair said:
Have been on Insider since the start, currently in the Canary branch and Beta branch. They are ok to play with, don't try using it for your main system.
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I'm due for a reinstall anyway because I've goofed up the EFI partition but I've corrected it but a reinstall would make sure everything is stable and working properly. It is stable now but I am interested. Canary branch? Is that the early beta of Windows 12?
 
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It was the Dev branch, but got moved to a higher build, not sure if beta of 12 but future stuff for sure.
 
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