X58 and 6gb 1333 SuperTalent, Lockup!

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Hello, system is locking up, curious what you guys are using for BIOS settings.

I recently sold my Core 2 E8500 for a decent amount and decided I would upgrade to i7. Found a guy locally that would come close to Newegg's prices so went for it. (memory brand was his suggestion)

mobo: MSI X58 Pro
mem: SuperTalent WA133UX6G8 3x2GB 1333mhz
proc: 920
HDD: 74gb raptors RAID 0
PS: Rosewill RG530-2 530W
Case: Lian-Li A05B
Video: Asus 4850

I meticulously put the system together. The system would power on, I could get the RAID configured and could change BIOS settings but it would lockup. Sometimes during POST and usually after initially loading the Vista install files. After the lockup it would reboot on its own a few times or I would have to clear the CMOS and it would give me an error saying something about my overclock not being stable. I didn't overclock! and all I would have changed is the IDE to RAID and maybe some other minor changes!

Here's some of the troubleshooting I did:

-I upgraded the BIOS from 7.0 to 7.1
-Tried each stick separately in the A0 slot
-Tried a different video card (I had changed the thermal paste to Arctic Silver on my 4850 and wanted to make sure that wasn't overheating or something)
-Tried matching the timing for the memory to what SuperTalent advertises and also manually set the DDR voltage to 1.5v

It will boot and work fine if I change the multiplier of the memory to the lowest, 3, which puts the memory at 800mhz. So now I have my local guy ordering OCZ memory and planning on returning the SuperTalent. Could it be that something isn't kosher in with the default BIOS settings?

 

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What is the amp ratings for your PSU, especially for the +12V rail(s)?  Look at the sticker on the side of the PSU and post the details.  Also, I wouldn't have dared flash a bios when you had instability during POST.
 

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I tried changing the 'Memory Ratio' from the lowest 3 to 4. See screen shots:



Got the same result, locked up when trying to boot to windows.

Change the 'Memory Ratio' back to 3 and it boots and runs fine:


Here are the options for memory timings:


and what it says the 'SPD Information' is:
 

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Here is what is says on Rosewill's site:




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Specs of PS on Newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182160
 

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Fine, but what does it state on the sticker affixed to your PSU.  Rosewill(NewEgg's in-house brand) is notorious for changing specs from time to time.

For a system with a 4850, it is recommended that you have a PSU capable of delivering 30A on the +12V rail.  The issue with split-rail (multiple +12V rails) is that if one rail is pulling a lot of current, there may not be enough for the rest of the system.  I'm not stating that this is your issue, but it's one we need to cross off as a culprit.


You mean this?



Still, verify this is on the sticker on your PSU.
 

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Here's a pic:


This is the old PS I used in my Core 2 system, I could try swapping with but it looks like it has less Amps.
 

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What does CPU-z state about the memory?  Post a screenshots of the memory and SPD tabs.
 

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Duder said:
mem: SuperTalent WA133UX6G8 3x2GB 1333mhz

The system would power on, I could get the RAID configured and could change BIOS settings but it would lockup. Sometimes during POST and usually after initially loading the Vista install files. After the lockup it would reboot on its own a few times or I would have to clear the CMOS and it would give me an error saying something about my overclock not being stable.

It will boot and work fine if I change the multiplier of the memory to the lowest, 3, which puts the memory at 800mhz.
They're rated 1333Mhz, 8-8-8-24 at 1.5V
Manually set the timings, raise their voltage to 1.55-1.60V and set the 'Memory Ratio' to 5 (133 x 5 = 666)
In case of stability issues, set the timings to 9-9-9-24 and try again.

good luck
 

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What does CPU-z state about the memory?  Post a screenshots of the memory and SPD tabs.
I'm back at work so no more screenshots until later in the day.

The last screenshot of BIOS I have above shows 'SPD Information'.


They're rated 1333Mhz, 8-8-8-24 at 1.5V
Manually set the timings, raise their voltage to 1.55-1.60V and set the 'Memory Ratio' to 5 (133 x 5 = 666)
In case of stability issues, set the timings to 9-9-9-24 and try again.
I did try changing the timing but didn't try raising the voltage.
I left '1N/2N Memory Timing' to Auto. Think I should set that?
Set 'CAS Latency(CL)' to 8, 'tRCD' to 8, 'tRP' to 8, 'tRAS' to 24, left 'Advanced Memory Settings' to auto.
I got the same result, locks up when booting.

I will try raising the voltage when I get home and if that doesn't work I'll try raising the timing as you suggested RemusM
 

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Please post the cpuz screenshots I requested.  The Bios ones don't state all the SPD settings, nor the SPD programmed Voltages.
 

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CPU-Z Memory shot:


CPU-Z SPD shot:


Should I try setting the timing to what it says under 667Mhz on the SPD tab?
 

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Here is what I tried:
Memory Ratio:5
CL:8
tRCD:9
tRP:9
tRAS:25
DRAM Voltage:1.5

Memory Ratio:5
CL:8
tRCD:8
tRP:8
tRAS:24
DRAM Voltage:1.55

Memory Ratio:5
CL:9
tRCD:9
tRP:9
tRAS:25
DRAM Voltage:1.6

Memory Ratio:5
CL:9
tRCD:9
tRP:9
tRAS:25
DRAM Voltage:1.62

None of those settings would get past POST. I think I'll wait on the OCZ memory.
 

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Finally got my OCZ memory OCZ3G1600LV6GK
Interesting that the BIOS detects it as 1066.

All I changed was the memory ratio to 6 and it booted right up.  :lol_anim:

Here is what Sandra shows:
SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : MSI
Model : MS-7522
Family : High-End Desktop
Version : 3.0
Serial Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
ID : 00000000-00000000-24000000-2D2B5721
SKU Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.

System Chassis
Manufacturer : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO.,LTD
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Version : 3.0
Power Cord(s) : 1
Serial Number : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Asset Tag : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe
Security State : External Interface Locked-out

Mainboard
Manufacturer : MSI
Multi-Processor (MP) Support : No
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : MSI X58 Gold(MS-7522)
Type : Mainboard
Version : 3.0
Serial Number : To be filled by O.E.M.
Asset Tag : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Location in Chassis : To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System BIOS : 66-2776-009999-00101111-021809-TYLSBURG

System Mainboard Properties
Removable : No
Replaceable : Yes
Hot Swap : No

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : m-bit ECC
Number of Memory Slots : 6
BANK0 - DIMM0 : Manufacturer00 OCZ3G1600LV2G 00000000 AssetTagNum0 DIMM 2GB/72 @ 1.33GHz
BANK1 - DIMM1 : Empty
BANK2 - DIMM2 : Manufacturer02 OCZ3G1600LV2G 00000000 AssetTagNum2 DIMM 2GB/72 @ 1.33GHz
BANK3 - DIMM3 : Empty
BANK4 - DIMM4 : Manufacturer04 OCZ3G1600LV2G 00000000 AssetTagNum4 DIMM 2GB/72 @ 1.33GHz
BANK5 - DIMM5 : Empty

Flash Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 1
Maximum Installable Memory : 4MB
Bank 7 : MXIC 25L3205 Non-Volatile Flash 0bytes/8 @ 33MHz

Chipset
Model : MSI X58 I/O Hub
Revision : B3
Bus : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.41GHz (4.82GHz)
In/Out Width : 20-bit / 20-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
SLI Technology : Yes
Crossfire Technology : Yes
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 18.84GB/s

Features
TXT - Trust Execution Technology : Yes
ME - Management Engine : Yes
AMT - Active Management Technology : Yes
VT-d - Virtualisation Technology : Yes
EF - EastFork Technology : Yes
AP - Agent Presence : Yes
CB - Circuit Breaker : Yes
Auto Fan Speed Control : Yes

Chipset 1 Hub Interface
Type : Hub-Interface
Version : 1.50
Number of Ports : 3
Width : 16-bit
Full Duplex : Yes
Multiplier : 2x

Chipset
Model : Intel Core CPU Generic Non-Core Registers
Revision : A5
Bus : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Version : 1.00
Front Side Bus Speed : 2x 2.41GHz (4.82GHz)
Maximum FSB Speed : 2x 16.88GHz (33.77GHz)
In/Out Width : 20-bit / 20-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
I/O Queue Depth : 64 request(s)
Maximum Bus Bandwidth : 18.84GB/s

Chipset 2 Hub Interface
Type : Intel CSI (Quick Path)
Version : 1.00
In/Out Width : 20-bit / 20-bit
Multiplier : 18x
Speed : 2x 7MHz (14MHz)
I/O Queue Depth : 5 request(s)

Logical/Chipset Memory Banks
Bank 0 : 2GB DDR3 6-7-7-24 6-31-4-8 1T
Bank 3 : 2GB DDR3 6-7-7-24 6-31-4-8 1T
Bank 6 : 2GB DDR3 6-7-7-24 6-31-4-8 1T
Maximum Installable Memory : 2GB
Supported Memory Types : DIMM DDR3
Channels : 3
Width : 64-bit
Memory Controller in Processor : Yes
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Model : Intel QPI I/O Hub Throttle Registers
Revision : B3
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module
Manufacturer : OCZ
Model : OCZ3G1600LV2G
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(128Mx8)
Speed : PC3-8500U DDR3-1066
Standard Timings : 7-7-7-16 4-26-8-4
Version : 1.00
Set Timing @ 381MHz : 5-5-5-11 3-19-6-3
Set Timing @ 457MHz : 6-6-6-14 3-23-7-3
Set Timing @ 533MHz : 7-7-7-16 4-26-8-4
Set Timing @ 610MHz : 8-8-8-18 5-30-9-5

Memory Module
Manufacturer : OCZ
Model : OCZ3G1600LV2G
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(128Mx8)
Speed : PC3-8500U DDR3-1066
Standard Timings : 7-7-7-16 4-26-8-4
Version : 1.00
Set Timing @ 381MHz : 5-5-5-11 3-19-6-3
Set Timing @ 457MHz : 6-6-6-14 3-23-7-3
Set Timing @ 533MHz : 7-7-7-16 4-26-8-4
Set Timing @ 610MHz : 8-8-8-18 5-30-9-5

Memory Module
Manufacturer : OCZ
Model : OCZ3G1600LV2G
Type : 2GB DIMM DDR3
Technology : 8x(128Mx8)
Speed : PC3-8500U DDR3-1066
Standard Timings : 7-7-7-16 4-26-8-4
Version : 1.00
Set Timing @ 381MHz : 5-5-5-11 3-19-6-3
Set Timing @ 457MHz : 6-6-6-14 3-23-7-3
Set Timing @ 533MHz : 7-7-7-16 4-26-8-4
Set Timing @ 610MHz : 8-8-8-18 5-30-9-5

Environment Monitor 1
Model : Fintek F71882F/FG LPC
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Environment Monitor 2
Model : Intel Core CPU [P1, C4, T100]
Version : 26.04
Mainboard Specific Support : No

Temperature Sensor(s)
Board Temperature : 71.00?C td
CPU Temperature : 58.00?C td
Auxiliary Temperature : 42.00?C td

Cooling Device(s)
Auto Fan Speed Control : Yes
System Fan : 982rpm
CPU Fan : 1251rpm
Auxliary Fan : 1059rpm

Voltage Sensor(s)
CPU DC Line : 1.28V
+3.3V DC Line : 3.39V
Standby DC Line : 3.38V
Battery DC Line : 3.31V


and a screen shot of cpu-z Memory tab and SPD tab:



Interesting that everything on my system shows different timings than what OCZ rates the memory but can't complain the the timing is currently faster at the came clock speed.

 
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