X58 platinum no post no beeps sometimes

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anthony j

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Hello, I have a x58 platinum setup that has been running great since March. Recently it will not boot sometimes no post or bios and no beeps it does this once out of four starts about. The computer has been working very good no problems with it running. All LED's come one and are blue and all fans work when it fails to post there is no blinking from the hard drive activity light and no post screen or beeps. Some of the things I have tried are as follows: Checked all connections, changed boot seq to hard drive only, disabled quick boot. I'm going to try a diff graphics card and one stick of ram to see if that solves anything.If it was a hard drive problem,graphics card, CPU, or ram would'nt I get some error beep tones and a post failure in bios? I get neither.Here are my specs I hope I do this right.

x58 platinum bios ver 3.3 4/2/09
Core i7 920
6x2 gb ddr3 OCZ xmp 1600 mem
thermaltake 850w 70 amp power supply
1x GTX-470 graphics card
WD 500gig 32mb black sata 2
win 7 64bit
 
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I have encountered many times that a HDD failure will make a system appear to have no post, no beeps and blank screen. The reason is due to the BIOS was held up at the HDD detection stage. It's worth to test without the HDD and see if anything post on the screen.
 
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  I had something similar one time after I moved the PC to do the sound at a wedding reception. It was a pain, but I reseated my processor and the problem went away and hasn't been back. If you try that make it your last resort. In my case I had to dismount the zalman, clean the grease, reseat, reapply the grease then remount the zalman. However, as mentioned it was worth it since the problem was fixed.
 
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Thank you gentlemen for the quick responses. To Joe above how do I check the hard drive just unplug it and see if a post screen comes up? I only have the one hard drive installed. To the post below I am running the stock intel cooler is it possible to reset the CPU with the cooler still attached or do I have to remove it just to reseat it? I have cold started it 4 times with no failures yet so I know one is comming. I do have a back up graphics card but I have not tried it yet.
 
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I see there is no way to reset the cpu with the cooler on. I just tried the other graphics card and 1 stick of ram from another slot amd after 4 shutdowns it would'nt start held the reset button and then it started.
 
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anthony j said:
Thank you gentlemen for the quick responses. To Joe above how do I check the hard drive just unplug it and see if a post screen comes up? I only have the one hard drive installed.
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Yes, you should unplug the HDD and see if the system post. Even without the HDD in it, the post screen should still show up stating no HDD / no bootable device detected.
 
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Mike said:
No and even if there was, you'd likely risk damaging the contact pins in the socket.
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Right! You need to see what's going on under there as well as be sure your thermal grease is making good contact. If it didn't work for me (could be coensidental) I'd say forget it, but it did work?
 
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I unpluged the hard drive and it did it so that rules the hard drive out. Well after extensive marathon testing I disabled XMP profile 1 in bios and after 25-30 starts there is no problem this means my ram is running at 1066 instead of the XMP profile of 1600. This is very strange that this started acting up now when the computer was put together in the spring and had no problems till now.
 
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This is very strange that this started acting up now when the computer was put together in the spring and had no problems till now.
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Always possible in the XMP state, the extra voltage going to the CPU & RAM was starting to get things unstable. Possible a RAM stick is starting to act up. It's always better to tweak the RAM & such in the bios manually anyway. I don't know the exact rated specs of your RAM, but setting it to 1333 & 9 9 9 24, tRFC 88, CR at 1 or 2 (since 12GB being used) around 1.60-1.65 DRAM voltage may work ok. Really, the difference between 1066 & 1600 is only just a few FPS apart even if you leave things as is. :-))

Added: Sometimes, strange as it may sound, the PSU acting up can cause unusual symptoms. I had a Thermaltake 850W PSU do something similar to what you describe, & it ended up that the 5V rail was being intermittent.
 
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High Hu16E I'm on 25+ restarts now with the XMP profile set to off with no problems. If the power supply was acting up it should have had a no post by now? The 6gb kit I have is this one.  http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr3_pc3_12800_intel-i7_triple_channel    Do you have any suggestions to make this run and boot at 1600? I will leave it at 1066 if not because you have said and other people on the fourms there is not much of a difference only like in 3d mark. Thank you in advance for your reply.
 
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After looking at the link, presume bclk is at 133? In bios Cell Menu, make sure Spread Spectrum is disabled, set Memory Ratio to 6, Uncore Ratio to 12, CR to 1 or 2, timings 8 8 8 24 or 9 9 9 28, DRAM voltage at 1.65V's & see if any of those will be stable for you at the 1600 speed. If not, the next step would be to try at 1333 (MR & UR 5/10).
 
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HU16E on the timings do I set Cas Latency(CL) to 8 trcd to 8 trp to 8 tras to 8 and advanced memory setting to manual? If that is correct I tried it with those settings and it failed to boot once so I will try the higher timings then at 1333.
 
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Hu16E right now I'm testing 1333 at 8 8 8 24 and on 11th boot with no problem the 1600 timings failed to boot at about 4 tries. Do I set the Advanced Memory Setting to manual or is that if I want to change the optional TRFC or can I leave it at auto?
 
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Do I set the Advanced Memory Setting to manual or is that if I want to change the optional TRFC or can I leave it at auto?
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:biggthumbsup: If you have it stable at 1333, that is great news. If you wanted to change the tRFC, that would be the place to do it switching it to manual. Otherwise, keeping it Auto is fine. What does CPUID's CPU-Z utility show in the Memory Tab confirmed for speed & timings?   
 
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CPUZ shows freq 666.5 8 8 8 24 trfc 74 clocks 2t  spd section shows slot 1 max bandwidth pc3-8500f (533 mhz) on 19th boot all ok so far!
 
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trfc 74 clocks
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No need to go into Advanced then as 74 tRFC is better than 88. Just to confirm, did I read your system info right of having 6X2GB sticks, or is it 3X2GB? What DRAM voltage did you settle with using? I suppose it wouldn't hurt to see if CR set to 1 works. You can always return everything to your current working settings again if it fails.
 
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Yes it's 3x2gb 6 gig set.
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Then I truly apologize. 1.65V's, although not exceeding maximum, is probably a bit too much than needed for your 1333 speed. You might back it off a .01 at a time until it fails to post. I have a feeling around 1.55 or up to 1.60 is going to be plenty, but only testing will tell.

6x2 gb ddr3 OCZ xmp 1600 mem
I had misread this to mean 6X2GB sticks (12GB total).
 
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