X58 Pro a Lemon? IOH cooling insufficient.

sangster

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Is the X58 Pro motherboard a Lemon?  The x58 cooling solution on the board is inadequate by far.  Very soon, MSI will introduce a replacement board called the X58 Pro-E which has a different heat sync on the Dr. MOS and X58 chipset.  They will no doubt ignore all of us with the Lemon.  Which is totally unacceptable and enough to make me not want buy any MSI products ever in the future!

The only solution to cooling your IOH on the X58 Pro is to replace the useless MSI heat sync or run a small fast fan on to them. 
Here are the possibilities;
1) with stock cooler IOH is 72C at idle
2) Running a 40mm 4000RPM fan ($12.00) directly onto the chips set from above the chipset, the IOH drops to 55C.
3) Replacing the sock solution with 2 Thermalright HR-05-IFX (23.00 each) the IOH drops to 38C*

*note: In my Antec Sonata case the HR-05-IFX are directly in the path of the 120mm fan exhaust that is mounted to the hard drive cage. This fan, draws air through the bottom of the case, over the hard drives and out over the motherboard.  This is a Noctuna 120M fan that is running at 900 RMP (Ultra Quiet Mode).  This fan blows directly onto the HR-05-IFX  and helps dissipate the heat build up on the fins of the HR-05-IFX.  With this fan turned off, the IOH temp starts out at 39C but quickly climbs into the 45C range with heavy use.

Using the 3rd solution, I can go up to a 190 MHz  base CPU clock rate which makes the 2.6GHz i970 a  3.8Ghz CPU.  The max I can go with memory is 1500MHz using OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB)  rated at 1600 (OCZ3G1600LV6GK). Anything above that the board is not stable.  At a base clock of 210 MHz, the board hangs-up in boot.  It goes through the BIOS POS T and the screen says "WAIT..." and nothing happens.

I'm using BIOS 7.3.  see https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=126768.0 

by the way, be careful when you remove the stock IOH cooler.  Mine was pretty much stuck to the board.  I had to yank it off with a set of pliers.  Upon taking it off, part of the problem was clearly apparent.  There was enough silicon grease (or should I say hardened cement) to drown an elephant.  The grease must be the cheapest kind you can find because it had caked up into a thick layer of plastic and I had to scrape off heavy scabs.  I wish I had taken a picture.

Once you do this upgrade, all of us should send the $50 bill to MSI.  They should give all of us MSI X58 Pro uses a $50 rebate for selling us a Lemon.
 




 
I am running a coolermaster stacker case with a pair of 120's up front, one 80 exhaust on top of the case, and one 120 out the rear.  My X58 pro was running around 70*C at idle and 85-89*C under load.  I took the stock heatsink off, applied some AS-5 and my temps dropped dramatically.  Idle was below 60*C and I never saw loaded temps beyond 74*C.  Simple and easy fix for me...
 
So far, not any X58 Pro boards have burned up an X58 (IOH) that I've read about. 72c is well below the 100c limit, so those that choose not to redo the heatsinks need not panic as long as sustained full loads are below 100c.

Out of the 3 X58 Pros I've helped build, no 'Lemons' noted among them. Just started build #4. I would say your 3.8 on the CPU & 1500 on the mem. is pretty decent. The CPU only natively supports 800/1066 memory, so what's the complaint? 1333 & 1600 are 'OC' speeds. Your mem. sticks may be rated 1600, but doubt they are chipped more than 1333.

What was your specific system issue that required a bios update?

Is the X58 Pro-E a 'replacement' board as you call it, or a new introduction board to the line-up? Have you been ignored so far over your 'self proclaimed' lemon?
 
i put artic silver 5 thermal past on the IOH, took the black thing off, and add a 40mm fan, runs low 40s at idel n low 50s on load
 
1st of all, how is your system airflow cooling setup like?

If you have an inadequate setup of chassis air cooling, the rest of the hardware will definately heat up as well.
 
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