6200 1.38V and tuned timings, and yes, sleep works in my system at least, it enters in sleep mode by default after 30 minutes of inactivity.
X670E Ace 7D69v142
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Hi everyone,
I'm new to MSI and this community, but have been a long time PC building enthusiast. I have been using an X670E ACE motherboard since the beginning of this year and troubleshooting some issues with the tech support team. Let me start by sharing the spec of my current system as suggested in the posting guide:
Board: MSI MEG X670E ACE (7D69-005R)
BIOS: 7D69v153 (not a typo)
VGA: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING (24G-P5-3987-KR)
PSU: Silverstone SFX-L SST-SX1000-LPT (83.3A 12v rail)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (100-100000514WOF)
Memory: 2x32GB, 6000MHz G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5N) (Photo attached)
SSD1: Intel Optane P5800X 800GB U.2 (SSDPF21Q800GB01)
SSD2: Samsung 970 EVO 2TB M.2 (MZ-V7E2T0BW)
Cooler: Noctua NH-D12L
Keyboard: Iqunix F97
Mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
Overclock: None, everything at stock
OS: Windows 10 64bit Professional 22H2
The only bug that I have encountered that has been fixed is, that in BIOS versions prior to v1.53, if you disable the HD Audio Controller in UEFI then it also disables the Bluetooth adaptor (yes really, try it for yourself!)
However the following issues are still outstanding and I don't feel like I'm making much progress with MSI tech support, hence my reaching out here to see if I can get any community input:
- If integrated graphics are disabled then the computer cannot shut down. All monitors and peripherals power down but the LEDs and system fans stay running indefinitely until the computer is manually powered down. Replicate by clearing CMOS, disabling Integrated Graphics in UEFI, booting into Windows and then shutting down the computer.
- As discussed earlier in this thread, S3 Sleep mode is not available in BIOS versions prior to v1.51. Sleep mode is available in newer versions however for me when I wake the computer again I receive an "EA" debug code (S3 Resume Boot Script Error) and all system fans spin up to 100% duty cycle, and stay there until the computer is rebooted or shut down. This issue is present immediately after clearing CMOS and making no further changes.
- Enabling AMD EXPO dramatically increases boot time. If CMOS is cleared and the computer boots, it takes around 27 seconds for me to reach the Windows login page. If EXPO is enabled it takes at least 72 seconds, over 60 second of which is just waiting for POST. I was hoping for much faster speeds than this given I splashed out on a tasty Optane SSD, and I feel there is definitely room for improvement.
I would welcome any input and look forward to being part of this community!
Report 29 Jan
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Hi everyone,
I'm new to MSI and this community, but have been a long time PC building enthusiast. I have been using an X670E ACE motherboard since the beginning of this year and troubleshooting some issues with the tech support team. Let me start by sharing the spec of my current system as suggested in the posting guide:
Board: MSI MEG X670E ACE (7D69-005R)
BIOS: 7D69v153 (not a typo)
VGA: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 24GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING (24G-P5-3987-KR)
PSU: Silverstone SFX-L SST-SX1000-LPT (83.3A 12v rail)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (100-100000514WOF)
Memory: 2x32GB, 6000MHz G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-TZ5N) (Photo attached)
SSD1: Intel Optane P5800X 800GB U.2 (SSDPF21Q800GB01)
SSD2: Samsung 970 EVO 2TB M.2 (MZ-V7E2T0BW)
Cooler: Noctua NH-D12L
Keyboard: Iqunix F97
Mouse: Logitech MX Master 3
Overclock: None, everything at stock
OS: Windows 10 64bit Professional 22H2
The only bug that I have encountered that has been fixed is, that in BIOS versions prior to v1.53, if you disable the HD Audio Controller in UEFI then it also disables the Bluetooth adaptor (yes really, try it for yourself!)
However the following issues are still outstanding and I don't feel like I'm making much progress with MSI tech support, hence my reaching out here to see if I can get any community input:
- If integrated graphics are disabled then the computer cannot shut down. All monitors and peripherals power down but the LEDs and system fans stay running indefinitely until the computer is manually powered down. Replicate by clearing CMOS, disabling Integrated Graphics in UEFI, booting into Windows and then shutting down the computer.
- As discussed earlier in this thread, S3 Sleep mode is not available in BIOS versions prior to v1.51. Sleep mode is available in newer versions however for me when I wake the computer again I receive an "EA" debug code (S3 Resume Boot Script Error) and all system fans spin up to 100% duty cycle, and stay there until the computer is rebooted or shut down. This issue is present immediately after clearing CMOS and making no further changes.
- Enabling AMD EXPO dramatically increases boot time. If CMOS is cleared and the computer boots, it takes around 27 seconds for me to reach the Windows login page. If EXPO is enabled it takes at least 72 seconds, over 60 second of which is just waiting for POST. I was hoping for much faster speeds than this given I splashed out on a tasty Optane SSD, and I feel there is definitely room for improvement.
I would welcome any input and look forward to being part of this community!
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Do not think I have seen the BT bug mentioned before
Sadly having the Intel Optan as a Boot drive will not really improve boot times over any other M.2 NVME drive.
Does not quite work that way at most you will shave off half a second.
And I am pretty sure that is a server Drive not really designed for a Consumer board unless you are building a workstation.
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My system specs are as follows:
Board: MSI MEG X670E ACE (7D69-005R)
BIOS: 7D69v153 (not a typo) in 2nd bios and 7D69v131 in 1st bios
VGA: AMD Radeon GB 6900XT Xtreme Waterforce WB
PSU: Corsair HX11200i
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (100-100000514WOF)
Memory: 2x32GB, 6400MHz G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO (F5-6400J3239G16GX2-TZ5RK) and 2x32GB, 6000MHz G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO (F5-6000J3038F16GX2-TZ5NR)
Currently using the 6400 memory kit but both kits run pretty the same at 6200 in the system.
M.2 1: Samsung 980 PRO 2TB
M.2 2: Samsung 980 PRO 2TB
M.2 3: Samsung 980 PRO 1TB
Cooler: Custom water cooling
Keyboard: Logitech G815
Mouse: Logitech G502 HERO
Overclock: PBO with CO or using eClk1 set to 103.24MHz with PBO and CO
OS: Windows 11 64bit Professional 22H2
I do not experience your shutdown issue when integrated graphics is disabled. Both of my monitors shutdown when I shutdown the computer.
I do not use sleep, so comment on this feature.
Not using EXPO with either memory kit, only the neo version has expo. However my boot times are still longer than what I experiencing with bios v131
There are other bios issues I have identified in another thread for this particular MB.
For those that my be interested, my OC changing the base clock results in about 2-3% performance improvement using less voltage.
Hey, thanks for letting me know. I have the x670 p pro wifi, so our motherboards are different. I don't think the latest bios fo x670 boards have sleep when EXPO is enabled6200 1.38V and tuned timings, and yes, sleep works in my system at least, it enters in sleep mode by default after 30 minutes of inactivity.
I also experienced the sleep bug you mentioned on a MSI B650 Motherboard. I've found out that in my case it also depends on the integrated graphics. When the iGPU is disabled, sleep doesn't work correctly, however whent the iGPU set to UMA Auto in the latest beta BIOS, sleep works with EXPO.
Hey Alan. Are there any updates from the MSI bios team on giving sleep features when EXPO is enabled for x670 boards, with better POST time without long memory retraining time that comes with EXPO enabled
Do not think I have seen the BT bug mentioned before
Sadly having the Intel Optan as a Boot drive will not really improve boot times over any other M.2 NVME drive.
Does not quite work that way at most you will shave off half a second.
And I am pretty sure that is a server Drive not really designed for a Consumer board unless you are building a workstation.
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They only got back to Work Yesterday after Having the Chinese New Year Holiday Celebration
So have not heard of anything yet
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Just sent you a PM
I tried 7D69v151
I manually entered all my ram settings instead of using EXPO, and set iGPU enabled, (but set it to "force" mode with only 64mb of ram so it eats less resources)
Sleep and Shutdown work, tREFI control gave me a little more performance.
Memory Context Restore gives me BSOD's at windows login when set to "enable" or "disable".
No issues when set to "Auto" (tested stable overnight)
So I gained Sleep and Shutdown, but lost decent boot time.
I manually entered all my ram settings instead of using EXPO, and set iGPU enabled, (but set it to "force" mode with only 64mb of ram so it eats less resources)
Sleep and Shutdown work, tREFI control gave me a little more performance.
Memory Context Restore gives me BSOD's at windows login when set to "enable" or "disable".
No issues when set to "Auto" (tested stable overnight)
So I gained Sleep and Shutdown, but lost decent boot time.
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keep memory context restore at AUTO to avoid problem, i think AUTO = enable when XMP is off and disable when XMP is on.
Although it might reduce boot time, it skip memory training so you could end up in unstable system.
Although it might reduce boot time, it skip memory training so you could end up in unstable system.
Except that Memory Context Restore enabled with EXPO profile worked like a charm on 1.0.0.3 agesa BIOS. Windows bios time was around 15s, it's double that with auto MCR. It's not the end of the world but I can't understand why it throws lots of BSODs on agesa 1.0.0.4 BIOS when it didn't before.
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Unfortunately no change A6/AB BIOS code after enabling AMD EXPO.
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Maybe one day!
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Hey Alan! I tried the offici bios update 7D67v16, and sleep is now working with EXPO enabled at 6000 MHz! The only thing is that when you start the PC up, the POST lights still need 20 seconds to disappear before moving to the bios screen
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Did you have chance to try another DDR5 kit?
In my case, it was the faulty ram.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...but-fine-with-full-reboot.382773/post-2171064