Z590 Carbon Wifi XMP profile dead after BIOS upgrade!

mobi66156502d7

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Hi,
I have just installed the latest BIOS file 7D06v16 (released 20 Jan 2022) on my Z590 Carbon Wifi motherboard. The result is that my computer will not start anymore with XMP profile enabled! When I disabled XMP profile then everythign workds fine, but then my RAM runs at 2166Mhz which I don't want obviously. I use 32GB corsair vengeance RGB Pro RAM at 3200Mhz (4x8 GB).

With the previous BIOS (7D06v16) XMP was working just fine.

Has anyone else also notioced this problem? Is MSI aware of this? Should I just go back to previous BIOS?
 

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You should report this to MSI, and include your exact RAM model name (for example: CMW32GX4M4C3200C16).

In the meantime, i would go back to the previous BIOS, that would be the easiest in your case if it worked there without issue.
 

mobi66156502d7

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That's not what I meant, I asked how to report this to MSI? I doubt a message on this forum will get their attention. I also checked support but there I can only log a repair ticket...
 

MattMofDoom

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I had the same issue with the Z590 carbon wifi after the 1.60 (7D06v16) BIOS update. My RAM is G.SKILL F4-3200C15Q-64GTZR (4 x 16GB quad channel 3200Mhz).
I raised a support ticket to let MSI know that there was an issue after extensive troubleshooting and attempting multiple settings. The only thing that worked was reverting to 1.50.
Disappointingly I was told that it was not a common issue.
Sorry to say this is not a common problem. You can retry overclocking in the 7D06v16 bios as per our previous suggestion. If the current settings in the 7D06v15 bios are very stable, you can also keep the current settings and wait for the next bios update to check if the problem persists. Thanks!
I'm not arguing that staying on a stable BIOS isn't the right advice - that's okay, and I appreciate that motherboard manufacturing is complex with many different possible end user configs. I just felt that the response could have been more proactive in acknowledging and investigating the issue based on a report. I hope that if enough people report the issue, this might result in a fix.
 

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I had the same issue with the Z590 carbon wifi after the 1.60 (7D06v16) BIOS update. My RAM is G.SKILL F4-3200C15Q-64GTZR (4 x 16GB quad channel 3200Mhz).
I raised a support ticket to let MSI know that there was an issue after extensive troubleshooting and attempting multiple settings. The only thing that worked was reverting to 1.50.
Disappointingly I was told that it was not a common issue.


I'm not arguing that staying on a stable BIOS isn't the right advice - that's okay, and I appreciate that motherboard manufacturing is complex with many different possible end user configs. I just felt that the response could have been more proactive in acknowledging and investigating the issue based on a report. I hope that if enough people report the issue, this might result in a fix.
Yeah normally I don't upgrade BIOS on the fly, but I had a temp issue with my 11900K. In gaming it runs between 90 and 100 degrees celcius which is insane... However I have found the issue. Of course I want to use my 11900K to it's max, so I enabled some auto overclocking, which is a safe method. I did not change anything manually, I just enabled overclocking on all cores in BIOS and enabled Intel adaptive boost. After a few months of troubleshooting I found out that the problem with my very high temps in game (Idle my CPU would be around 35 celcius) are due to the agressive overclocking that thie Intel adaptive boost technology does. Specially on the power draw. It seems that this software enables too agressive power draws to the cpu which pushes the temps way too high.
I tested this in several games. To give 1 example. In BF2042 (everything on ultra settings, gaming on 3440x1400 resolution with RTX 3080) my CPU would go between 90 and 100 degrees in game, while my GPU would stay around 70. I got around 100 FPS average. Then I disabled Intel adaptive boost technology in the BIOS. Looking in windows11, there would still be some kind of boost happening, because when I start BF2042 my cpu would still boost from the standard 3,5 GHz to around 5Ghz with adaptive boost disabled. Now in BF2042 my CPU temp stays around 60 degrees and my FPS is now 120 average.
 

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Yes, ABT is essentially overclocking by Intel. Since the 11900K is configured extremely aggressively from the factory, adding ABT on top is just a bad idea all-around, it simply kills the little bit of efficiency that this CPU still had. They only introduced ABT last-minute before launch (literally in the last week or so), just to win important benchmarks when compared to certain AMD CPU models.

I've mentioned it here before: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...msi-z590-ace-motherboard.361936/#post-2054207

Also, stay away from GameBoost in the BIOS, don't get tempted by that. The 11900K can't be overclocked or tweaked in any kind of way, because it is a very extreme, highly binned CPU as it is. They used a very high VCore to squeeze that amount of performance out of it, the silicon in this manufacturing process is already not very happy running at such frequencies. Any further increase and the CPU basically starts screaming for mercy, the power draw will immediately shoot up, and performance increase is very minimal.
 

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Yes, ABT is essentially overclocking by Intel. Since the 11900K is configured extremely aggressively from the factory, adding ABT on top is just a bad idea all-around, it simply kills the little bit of efficiency that this CPU still had. They only introduced ABT last-minute before launch (literally in the last week or so), just to win important benchmarks when compared to certain AMD CPU models.

I've mentioned it here before: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?...msi-z590-ace-motherboard.361936/#post-2054207

Also, stay away from GameBoost in the BIOS, don't get tempted by that. The 11900K can't be overclocked or tweaked in any kind of way, because it is a very extreme, highly binned CPU as it is. They used a very high VCore to squeeze that amount of performance out of it, the silicon in this manufacturing process is already not very happy running at such frequencies. Any further increase and the CPU basically starts screaming for mercy, the power draw will immediately shoot up, and performance increase is very minimal.
You are 100% right.... It's just sad that they don't tell you that.... I mean they should clearly instruct on some CPU's like the 11900k that you should disable ABT and gameboost. I don't use gameboost which is a good thing. It would have saved me about 2 months of tweaking and trying to lower my cpu temps and trying to figure out what on earth is wrong with my CPU. disabling ABT and not using gameboost meant for me to have a much cooler CPU (30 degrees less) and more FPS.... go figure.
 

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Registered an account to say it seems like a fairly common issue.... myself and two other buddies in circle of friends all lost XMP on the latest bios.... sadly this is the only bios where PCIE bifurcation seems to work properly so its a bit of a rock and hard place for me.
 

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Bonjour,
je viens d’installer le dernier fichier BIOS 7D06v16 sur ma carte mère Z590 Carbon Wifi possessor 11900k.
Avec Le logiciel user scenario la fréquence du possessor est passer de 5100 Mhz a 3500 Mhz.
Malheureusement je ne c est pas si c est un bug ou une correction du bios.
Cordialement
 

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Bonjour,
je viens d’installer le dernier fichier BIOS 7D06v16 sur ma carte mère Z590 Carbon Wifi possessor 11900k.
Avec Le logiciel user scenario la fréquence du possessor est passer de 5100 Mhz a 3500 Mhz.
Malheureusement je ne c est pas si c est un bug ou une correction du bios.
Cordialement
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I had the same problem, so I issued a ticket and asked a question.
Despite sending a hard copy of the SPD screen in BIOS memory, support replied to send me a photo.
 

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There is no answer from support whether there was any change related to memory in V1.60.
If you have a problem with memory operation and it does not work properly with V1.60, you answered that you should continue to use V1.50.
 

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After some time of having reverted to v1.50, I wound up with a problem where devices would no longer work as expected. Weird, so I rolled forward to v1.60 and accepted that I wouldn't be able to enable XMP or any form of memory overclocking. To be fair, the PC has never been more stable since that ... I'd love to have best of both worlds, but this will have to do for now.
 

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I applied the latest BIOS because I discovered my PCIe X16 (how long it was like that I don't know)was running/stuck in 1.1 instead of 3.0 and no matter how I tried manually adjusting the BIOS it wouldn't work. So Ten-Fifteen minutes of Terror and the new one was applied; the system must have restarted a half-dozen times before the Desktop was finally back.

I checked my GPU and all was ok but I did need to go into the BIOS to turn on XPM profile so it runs at 3600MHz and I had to reenable the Resizable Bar again.
I am not sure if its because I have two sticks of ram or the 10850K or maybe its dum luck but it all works OK. I also noticed that I can now update to windows 11, before the BIOS update it wouldn't pass the MS test. I think I will give it a miss for now.
Is there any detailed documentation about BIOS 7D06v16 and changes that were made?

I wish you all the best of luck, have a good weekend.

System Build:
MSI Z590 Gaming Carbon WiFi
Intel i9 10850K
Corsair VENGEANCE® RGB PRO 32GB 3600MHz(2x16GB)
GPU 3070Ti FTW3
PSU Seasonic 850W Gold.
‎Cooler Master MasterAir MA410M
2 X Samsung Pro M.2's
Thermaltake View 51.
 

AndyB-ZA

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Thanks to this topic and others, I'm not going insane
Also having issues on Z590 Tomahawk with BIOS 7D08v24
After testing XMP will only work with 2 modules inserted
I was using 4x16GB at 3600 with XMP
Swapped all 4 modules in every config possible and they all work fine with only 2 inserted
When using all 4 BIOS fails with XMP and will only run at 2666
Have also submitted a ticket now on the BIOS
Lets see....
 
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