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imtiazm

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HDD Not Detected
« on: 07-February-07, 06:46:09 »

Hello,

I have a weird HDD problem, that I am not sure how to correct. I have 2 HDD in the system, 80GB IDE and 160GB.  Until recently everything was working flawless, until when i booted, my 160 disappears. Windows saw the drive, but wanted to initialize it. Since I had data need off it, i cancel the process and tried to find tools that would tell me if there was something wrong. All the test I ran said nothing was wrong with the drive. Frustrated, I turned the system off, next morning the 160 GB HDD appears and everything is working.

I have since than made a backup, but need to know what causing this problem. On initial boot. the HDD is detected by BIOS, but not windows (well windows detects it but whats to reinitialize it) which will cause data lose. If I turn the system off for 5 Min's after initial boot, the drive will come back again. I have replaced the sata cable and updated the bios with the same results.

I don't have another sata drive to test, any suggestions would be appreciated.

Specs:

K8N Neo4-F
MS-7125
Win XP
WD 80GB IDE
WD 160GB SATA
1GB Ram
Chaintech 6200 Video

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #1 on: 07-February-07, 07:00:35 »

test Sata disk health status: http://support.wdc.com/
can be due lost power, use different power connector to the drive.
ensure SATA cable are straight as possible. (you can try with different one as well)
what PSU you got? (look into PSU sticker for details)
 

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #2 on: 07-February-07, 13:19:30 »

Thanks,

I will try the power switch this weekend.
I have the apevia x-inifinity case, which came with a 450w power supply that I am using.
I will get you the results and PSU after I attempt you steps tonite or this weekend.

Thanks.

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #3 on: 12-February-07, 03:56:47 »

Thanks


Problem solved for now. I connected the hdd power via molex power connected, instead of the splitter for sata power. It seems to be working now, i will let you know if anything changes. I would have never thought of that.

Thanks Again

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #4 on: 12-February-07, 06:50:30 »

Thanks


Problem solved for now. I connected the hdd power via molex power connected, instead of the splitter for sata power. It seems to be working now, i will let you know if anything changes. I would have never thought of that.

Thanks Again

Imtiaz M.
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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #5 on: 15-February-07, 04:51:46 »

Darn it, the problem is back again..uggh

This is the only sata drive i have, i have a DVD at work, that I will bring and test. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

The HDD is always picked up in the bios and windows, but windows always wants to initialize the drive. If I turn the PC on.off, then it will find the partitions. I was gonna ghost it, but that craps out, i think that problem is related to the nvidia issues i read on the web.

If the HDD is dead, then why does it work after couple reboots, its possible its dying, but the WD Smart Test Passes....uggh.

Imtiaz
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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #6 on: 15-February-07, 10:56:33 »

Darn it, the problem is back again..uggh

This is the only sata drive i have, i have a DVD at work, that I will bring and test. Any other suggestions would be appreciated.

The HDD is always picked up in the bios and windows, but windows always wants to initialize the drive. If I turn the PC on.off, then it will find the partitions. I was gonna ghost it, but that craps out, i think that problem is related to the nvidia issues i read on the web.

If the HDD is dead, then why does it work after couple reboots, its possible its dying, but the WD Smart Test Passes....uggh.

Imtiaz
test suspected drive with manufacturer test program for malfunction.
update PATA/SATA drivers.
PSU details?

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #7 on: 15-February-07, 13:20:46 »

hi

updated sata drivers to nforce 6.70 (i took it off, because it caused problems with sound, but lets see what happens now)
PSU is the aspire 450w (something specific you want me to look for)

i will turn it off now and provide an update when i come back from work.
last time 5 min wait worked, but longer turn off didn't work.

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #8 on: 15-February-07, 13:33:51 »

hi

updated sata drivers to nforce 6.70 (i took it off, because it caused problems with sound, but lets see what happens now)
PSU is the aspire 450w (something specific you want me to look for)

i will turn it off now and provide an update when i come back from work.
last time 5 min wait worked, but longer turn off didn't work.

Imtiaz
"PSU is the aspire 450w (something specific you want me to look for)"
yes details written on the PSU sticker. paste here.
test HDD for malfunction too.

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #9 on: 15-February-07, 23:33:54 »

We need the amp ratings for each of the rails, the +3.3V, the +5V, and, especially, the +12V rail(or rails).
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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #10 on: 26-February-07, 04:09:05 »

hello,

sorry for the delayed response. below is the amp ratings for the power supply

420W

+3.3 = 28A
+5 = 40A
+12 = 18A

I had gotten tired of turning PC on and off, so I have been leaving the PC on, til today. I turned it off for 5 Min's and brought it back up. drive came back up so far. I will turn it off tonight and see how it goes tomorrow morning.

I have a back up of the drive, I may just write zeros and see what it does.

Imtiaz M.




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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #11 on: 26-February-07, 04:44:32 »

You should invest in a psu designed to power a modern system; at least 24A on a single +12v rail although I'd suggest 28A plus.

Can you borrow one with more juice to find out if it is the cause of the problem?
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imtiazm

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #12 on: 27-February-07, 06:13:15 »

hi

The psu came with the case which is about 1 year old. I am sort of leaning towards the drive, I just formatted it and when trying to repartition, its not working. I will get a new psu though.

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Re: HDD Not Detected
« Reply #13 on: 10-March-07, 05:32:33 »

HI All,

Just bought a new power supply, that I will install tomorrow. Here are the specs, tell me if this is good.

Antec BP500U

Vol                           Min / Max

+5V                         0.3A / 30A
+12V1                      1.0A / 18A
+12V2                      1.0A / 18A
+3.3V                       0.5A / 30A
-12V                         0A / 0.5A
-5V sb                       0A / 2.5A



Thanks
Imtiaz
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