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Re: Overclock Database
« Reply #100 on: 04-September-07, 04:42:00 »

UPDATE: *Fix +Addition -Removal /Modification

+ Stable ranking: both AMD and Intel

/ Seperated suicide and stable overclocks better

/ Modified title from "The Highest CPU Clocks on the Forum" to "Overclock Database"

Also considering a RAM MHz section after CPUs are filled...
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« Reply #101 on: 04-September-07, 20:07:01 »

Might as well throw me on the list too hehe..

My old 3500+ venice max stable http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=151529

tried a suicide on it but only got 2840, too scared to burn it up with excess voltage ;D
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Re: Overclock Database
« Reply #102 on: 08-September-07, 19:04:13 »

@AaronYuri:

I was really board last night and decided to play a little with some frequencies and voltages.

The results don't look too bad, I think. Can you them to the list as well?  :)

E6600 @4023 MHz / FSB@447 MHz (975X Plat. PUE)

With a little tweaking and better cooling it should be possible to reduce the Core voltage a little.  But that sounds more like a project for winter time.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=240209

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« Reply #103 on: 10-September-07, 04:14:27 »

Congratulations, Jack the Newbie! :biggthumbsup:

Great PI times too...
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Re: Overclock Database
« Reply #104 on: 10-September-07, 10:24:42 »

Still working on mine, only started this morning.

Opteron 165 @ 2520 MHz (stock voltage)

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=240844

Oh, and temps are currently about 45-46 C on core0 and 47-49 on core1 under load, more like 32 on both idle
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Re: Overclock Database
« Reply #105 on: 10-September-07, 10:55:08 »

Stable?
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« Reply #106 on: 10-September-07, 10:55:50 »

So far, it looks dual Prime stable, yes  :)
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« Reply #107 on: 11-September-07, 04:04:42 »

AaronYuri

Just for info but my overclock listed above is stable. I never tried a suicide shot.
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Re: Overclock Database
« Reply #108 on: 15-September-07, 11:14:55 »

Hi....just trying to OC the q6600...and got stable at 370 x9 with orthos running 12 hours..still looking for higher speed...

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=242099
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Re: Overclock Database
« Reply #109 on: 21-September-07, 03:33:54 »

im sad i dont have my cpu oc pics no more n im upgrading systems at this point n suffering on an old p3 800mhz with only 512mb ram :(

my msi 8600gts 512mb silent is collecting dust beside my Xfi plat and gskill 800 cl4,4,2,5 ram :(

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« Reply #110 on: 15-October-07, 20:31:17 »

Here's my overclock...I got 20% out of a 5200+.

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=255251

EDIT:  This is stable.  Have tried several suicide configs, but didn't save CVF's for them.
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« Reply #111 on: 15-October-07, 21:23:38 »

I think this thread needs split between AMD & Intel. Just a personal opinion.
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« Reply #112 on: 15-October-07, 21:40:26 »

Does seem unfair on AMD users, as they don't go beyond around 3GHz, while Core 2 can clock that undervolted.
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« Reply #113 on: 15-October-07, 21:46:04 »

Does seem unfair on AMD users, as they don't go beyond around 3GHz, while Core 2 can clock that undervolted.

Not really unfair.  It just highlights raw speed over all else, even though clock speed is only one piece of total performance...
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« Reply #114 on: 16-October-07, 19:41:51 »

Once I get my X1950XTX (Thursday or Friday) I will lap the IFX-14, then I'll ram about 1.7v into this E6600 and clock it to about 454 x 9 (4086MHz)

Hopefully higher... ;D
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« Reply #115 on: 16-October-07, 20:47:15 »

Maybe to make it more "fair" you add some kind of competitive scoring - couldn't something like SuperPI be used for that?
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« Reply #116 on: 17-October-07, 00:43:27 »

Nope, the Core 2's large L2 cache buries any time an Athlon X2 can do.
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« Reply #117 on: 20-October-07, 10:36:01 »

Okay, here's my stable overclock...

http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=257184

I can get it to suicide levels, but why, just to blue screen or lock up?   Nah....

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Re: Overclock Database
« Reply #118 on: 21-October-07, 18:14:16 »

I'm still listed with my E4300 in the opening post. Here's my E6600 at 24/7 OC:



http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=257875

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Re: The Highest CPU Clocks On the Forum
« Reply #119 on: 22-October-07, 23:02:18 »

Aaron, I hope you won't get mad at me but I tweaked a little for this suicide shot: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=230288

So ending up in 2952mhz, 64% oc with my opteron 165 "Denmark". 81mhz more than everyday clocking and stable enough for posting and cpuz ;-))
It would be very nice if you could change the ranking :hypocrite:
 

omg.. that's awesome... Its 100% stable? undeload temp? do you got some OC results with 180 or 185 models to share too?
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« Reply #120 on: 23-October-07, 00:13:56 »

I've decided I'm going to rewrite this, along with "The Vista Guide".

Next few days prepare for "Overclock Database 2.0" and "The Vista Guide 2.0".

I will:

+ 4GHz only section

+ 3999MHz and below section (but won't be named that of course)

Few other stuff too.

Don't ask what it may end up like. Because I simply have no idea. :bonk:

If you have any suggestions, do post them!

Thank you.
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« Reply #121 on: 23-October-07, 11:57:13 »

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Its 100% stable?

No, 2952mhz is suicide. 2872mhz is 100% which is also quite nice as 1072mhz more than stock.

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undeload temp?
55°C while running Prime95 or Orthos.

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do you got some OC results with 180 or 185 models to share too?
I could share my results with Opteron 180 I had before. Same stepping like the good 165 (Denmark E6) but it oc'ed poorly. Just 2.6ghz or ridiculous 200mhz over stock and nothing more. Couldn't get it higher no matter the vcore. Not on my K8N SLi Platinum, not on my modded SLi FI and not on my K8N Diamond Plus. Seems I really got a bad one.

Aaron, what should this 4ghz/below ranking look like? I think you would still need to divide it into AMD/Intel so we'd have four sections (maybe no AMD section +4ghz needed so far). Maybe you could therefor skip stable section. I think the others wouldn't argue about that as we two are the only ones listed there so far ;D
As we have the possibility to verify with gpuz you should add vga oc too. Maybe only stable clocks verified by gpuz and 3dmark result screenshot.
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« Reply #122 on: 23-October-07, 12:11:59 »

So I have to lap my heatsink, re-write this along with "The Vista Guide", all in a week.

I was also thinking of scraping stable section, as we certainly are the only ones. So I will stick to suicide or whatever people want to en role, I could put stable in brackets or something if they wished so.

Yes, there will only be Intel 4GHz section and 3999 section will be splitted between AMD and Intel too. Otherwise Intel would be clogging up the spots.

As for what it will all look like, I basically have no idea, I'll think something up... Unless anyone has ideas?
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« Reply #123 on: 23-October-07, 15:10:40 »

No, 2952mhz is suicide. 2872mhz is 100% which is also quite nice as 1072mhz more than stock.
55°C while running Prime95 or Orthos.
I could share my results with Opteron 180 I had before. Same stepping like the good 165 (Denmark E6) but it oc'ed poorly. Just 2.6ghz or ridiculous 200mhz over stock and nothing more. Couldn't get it higher no matter the vcore. Not on my K8N SLi Platinum, not on my modded SLi FI and not on my K8N Diamond Plus. Seems I really got a bad one.

Aaron, what should this 4ghz/below ranking look like? I think you would still need to divide it into AMD/Intel so we'd have four sections (maybe no AMD section +4ghz needed so far). Maybe you could therefor skip stable section. I think the others wouldn't argue about that as we two are the only ones listed there so far ;D
As we have the possibility to verify with gpuz you should add vga oc too. Maybe only stable clocks verified by gpuz and 3dmark result screenshot.

"No, 2952mhz is suicide. 2872mhz is 100% which is also quite nice as 1072mhz more than stock."
yeah its really excellent results :-))

"55°C while running Prime95 or Orthos."
nice too :yes:

"I could share my results with Opteron 180 I had before. Same stepping like the good 165 (Denmark E6) but it oc'ed poorly. Just 2.6ghz or ridiculous 200mhz over stock and nothing more. Couldn't get it higher no matter the vcore. Not on my K8N SLi Platinum, not on my modded SLi FI and not on my K8N Diamond Plus. Seems I really got a bad one."


hmm, hope to be more lucky then :-)) planning to get opty 185 till a week or so, thanks for the info :hat tip:
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« Reply #124 on: 23-October-07, 15:51:05 »

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You're welcome! Nice choice the Opty 185, best you can get for 939. Keep an eye on choosing the right mem divider. Some dual core optys are behaving real strange when oc'ed like accepting only certain mem dividers. I think I already told about my 165 just working with 200:150 and no higher nor lower divider. Maybe you remember that, it was the reason I couldn't use my Diamond Plus in main rig. I hope yours won't cause such trouble. A big plus with a 185 compared to 165 are the lower HT clocks you need for high cpu clocks. Strange behaviour usally comes with higher HT clocks. With a little tweaking and the knowledge you got 3.0ghz should be a realistic result. I hope you'll keep us and especially me (because I'm very curous for your results) updated. If you you'll need any further info please ask. 

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That's what I thought too. The problem is we can't verify a clockrate posted is really stable just by looking at cpuz validation. That way stable section would be a joke. It's the same with setting "stable" in brackets as it won't have any weight. Not everyone would - like us - post a lower frequency as stable if he could maybe get a better ranking with the not 100% clockrate. As we can't verify we have to rank by the posted cpuz validation. I don't know any way to make sure a setting posted is 100%.
As four sections are ok and no AMD +4ghz setting needed we should stick to the Top10 (%) because it allows having AMD and Intel systems in one ranking.
The look of the old database is ok, I liked it. Hard to do it real different. Thinking about it too.
So you want to rewrite some threads, that's a lot of work, isn't it?   
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« Reply #125 on: 23-October-07, 16:43:46 »

You're welcome! Nice choice the Opty 185, best you can get for 939. Keep an eye on choosing the right mem divider. Some dual core optys are behaving real strange when oc'ed like accepting only certain mem dividers. I think I already told about my 165 just working with 200:150 and no higher nor lower divider. Maybe you remember that, it was the reason I couldn't use my Diamond Plus in main rig. I hope yours won't cause such trouble. A big plus with a 185 compared to 165 are the lower HT clocks you need for high cpu clocks. Strange behaviour usally comes with higher HT clocks. With a little tweaking and the knowledge you got 3.0ghz should be a realistic result. I hope you'll keep us and especially me (because I'm very curous for your results) updated. If you you'll need any further info please ask.   

Yes i will :-)) but 1st to get it into the hands :-)) will be deliver from Germany from mate there, cause here such "old" parts has gone long time ago.. :-))
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« Reply #126 on: 23-October-07, 17:00:39 »

You won't say we only have old stuff here in my home country, won't you?  ;D
Yeah, it's quite hard to get one these days. Just took a look and found only two shops having a 185 in stock for 209-229€. Where will your mate get it?
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« Reply #127 on: 23-October-07, 17:05:25 »

You won't say we only have old stuff here in my home country, won't you?  ;D
Yeah, it's quite hard to get one these days. Just took a look and found only two shops having a 185 in stock for 209-229€. Where will your mate get it?

"Yeah, it's quite hard to get one these days. Just took a look and found only two shops having a 185 in stock for 209-229€. Where will your mate get it?"
not sure, he will dig for it in a few days.

"You won't say we only have old stuff here in my home country, won't you?  ;D"

:lol_anim: nop i didn't mean that :-)) just better option to find what you need  :-))
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« Reply #128 on: 23-October-07, 18:29:48 »

So you want to rewrite some threads, that's a lot of work, isn't it?   

A crap load of work. Have to think up a way to make it look different, which takes ages. Then you actually have to do it, then see if it looks right, if you think it's acceptable blah blah blah... Quite a big task, considering I'm going to rewrite 3 threads too.
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« Reply #129 on: 24-October-07, 02:31:57 »

Aaron, maybe this is quite too much work. As the look is not that bad we should leave it like that and only change the sections. Just like having top ten oc Intel / oc AMD and a section top ten Xtreme (4ghz +). Look could be like it is now. I'm also still into thinking how it could be a little pepped up.
So I'll collaborate on it as much as possible.

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not sure, he will dig for it in a few days.

BK, I will also keep my eyes open and tell you if I find a nice offer over here. This is the cheapest offer I found for an Opty 185 in stock. It's at 203,54€. There are many cheaper offers but none of those have on in stock. Situation with 180s is even worse.
If you're ready for risking more oc nescessary get a 175. I can get it here for 100,53€ which is quite cheap. As you see from my results getting a faster stock cpu doesn't mean they'll oc better. So I'd risk it I guess rather than spending twice the money on a 185.
A shop near to my home offers a 185 for 157,85. But they don't have it in stock and they tell the customer to book one. Maybe that means they'll get some but usually they add a date when they'll have it in stock. As they didn't in that case it could be weeks or never. Anyway here's the link
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« Reply #130 on: 24-October-07, 02:58:13 »

Finally got the new project stable. The AM2 5200+EE is now at 3250mhz, 1.44V and running Orthos for more than 16 hours!

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« Reply #131 on: 24-October-07, 03:42:16 »

I didn't mean like a re-write re-write. Just a good patch up job, sort of like a refresh of the thread.

Was thinking along the lines of horizontal lines between each section, make everything more readable and digestible.
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« Reply #132 on: 24-October-07, 04:52:25 »

Sounds good! I thought of just slight changes like the following. We could also skip % ranking but add % to the ranked result. Making it necessary to have more than 20% oc to be added.

                    TOP 10 OC                   
You'll find the forum's best overclockers here

Xtreme (4ghz or more)

1 - Pchas01 w/ Pentium 4 "Prescott" 670 @ 4403MHz
2 - BG84 w/ Penitum 4 631 4349Mhz
3 - Lt_JWS w/ Celeron 331 @ 4320Mhz
4 - Jack the Newbie w/ Core 2 Duo "Conroe" E6600 @ 4023MHz
5 - 4n70n w/ Core 2 Duo E6850 @ 4014Mhz
6 - AaronYuri w/ Core 2 Duo "Conroe" E6600 @ 4004MHz
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Intel

1 - aicjofs w/ Core 2 Quad "Kentsfield" QX6700 @ 3895MHz
2 - Bio-Hazard w/ Core 2 Duo "Allendale" E4300 @ 3712MHz
3 - ANewPrelusion w/ Core 2 Duo "Conroe" E6600 @ 3698MHz
4 - Vaniireq w/ Core 2 Duo "Conroe" E6600 @ 3600MHz
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AMD

1 - ....

OR getting it all centered like:

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Xtreme (4ghz or more)

1 - Pchas01 w/ Pentium 4 "Prescott" 670 @ 4403MHz
2 - ...                                                               
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« Reply #133 on: 24-October-07, 08:57:00 »

Finally got the new project stable. The AM2 5200+EE is now at 3250mhz, 1.44V and running Orthos for more than 16 hours!

Nice.  I could only get my AM2 5200+ to 3.125Ghz at 1.45V.

What are your other specs?

EDIT:  Nevermind, I see your Everest screenshot.  We've got the same mobo, same chipset, looks like our RAM is similar.  I just couldn't get mine to go to 250Mhz FSB.
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« Reply #134 on: 24-October-07, 14:48:34 »

That was a good layout flobelix!

I will consider using that.

Still thinking about ideas, might go for the center look...
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« Reply #135 on: 24-October-07, 14:57:40 »

I also liked the center look. The only problem is, it takes a little more work to look perfect but when it's done it outdoes the simple list.
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« Reply #136 on: 28-October-07, 00:22:35 »

It's done, I think it looks much better!

But I lost my CPU-Z validations links. Damn it!
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« Reply #137 on: 28-October-07, 05:01:24 »

Looks great! Good job! Now everything is really more readable and digestible.
Maybe you could add me with my new setup (sig). 3250mhz should get me to the top of AMD ranking :dance: . In the meantime you might need some sleep I guess, you worked all night, didn't you?
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« Reply #138 on: 29-October-07, 08:33:09 »

Looks great! Good job! Now everything is really more readable and digestible.
Maybe you could add me with my new setup (sig). 3250mhz should get me to the top of AMD ranking :dance: . In the meantime you might need some sleep I guess, you worked all night, didn't you?


I still can't believe you got 3250 out of yours.  I tried over the weekend to go there and even with HTT at 1x and memory on the loosest timings, my CPU wouldn't pass more than 5 minutes of Orthos at 250x13.   :wall:
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« Reply #139 on: 29-October-07, 08:44:57 »

Maybe you weren't that lucky with your core. The 3.12ghz you got are also real nice and beating a 6000+ by 120mhz. Considering that K8 architecture really doesn't like clocks above 3ghz you scored well. Also don't forget that I have an EE which usually offers more potential than an ordinary 5200+. So I got JUST 130mhz more although it's an EE.
Tests show I could get mine to 3.3ghz but since my oc ram died I have to wait for the replacements to come before continuing tweaking. 
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« Reply #140 on: 29-October-07, 08:58:38 »

Maybe you weren't that lucky with your core. The 3.12ghz you got are also real nice and beating a 6000+ by 120mhz. Considering that K8 architecture really doesn't like clocks above 3ghz you scored well. Also don't forget that I have an EE which usually offers more potential than an ordinary 5200+. So I got JUST 130mhz more although it's an EE.
Tests show I could get mine to 3.3ghz but since my oc ram died I have to wait for the replacements to come before continuing tweaking. 

Ah, that's right.  My 5200+ isn't an EE.  For what I paid for my setup, I'm pretty pleased overall...
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 :biggthumbsup: You should be, good job with your cpu. Only your ram needs some tweaking as it's just at DDR2-480. At that low clocks even the nice latencies can't add any performance. Did you buy very cheap ram or are you still tweaking?
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« Reply #142 on: 29-October-07, 09:36:51 »

:biggthumbsup: You should be, good job with your cpu. Only your ram needs some tweaking as it's just at DDR2-480. At that low clocks even the nice latencies can't add any performance. Did you buy very cheap ram or are you still tweaking?

No, I bought cheap RAM.  I paid under $700 for the entire setup.

I could probably cut the mem divider from CPU/13 to CPU/10, but I would have to raise my timings to 4-4-4-10-15-1T.  Is the trade-off worth it?
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I could probably cut the mem divider from CPU/13 to CPU/10, but I would have to raise my timings to 4-4-4-10-15-1T.  Is the trade-off worth it?

Since cpu/10 would get your ram to DDR-2 624 this would be a bit better since ddr-2 480 is really low. I'd do it rather than staying with those faster timings.
Your Validation link shows you got PC2 6400 (ddr2-800) ram so why are you not using even higher mem clocks? Cpu/8 would take you to ddr2-780 (390mhz) what would be way better even if you need to use 5-5-5-18.

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« Reply #144 on: 31-October-07, 14:18:37 »

Since cpu/10 would get your ram to DDR-2 624 this would be a bit better since ddr-2 480 is really low. I'd do it rather than staying with those faster timings.
Your Validation link shows you got PC2 6400 (ddr2-800) ram so why are you not using even higher mem clocks? Cpu/8 would take you to ddr2-780 (390mhz) what would be way better even if you need to use 5-5-5-18.

What kind of ram do you have exactly? Specs?

I was going off of recommendations made in this forum that the timings were the key so I sacrificed mem freq for tight timings.

I don't remember exactly what the SPD timings were in CPU-Z for CPU/8 and CPU/7.

I know that 200Mhz (CPU/13) was 3-3-3-5-11-1T and 266Mhz was 4-4-4-10-14-1T.  I'm running the CPU/13 timings with the CPU FSB overclocked to 240Mhz, so there's some room there.  I just haven't tried tweaking mem freq at all because I was so focused on keeping the tight timings.  Also, I haven't touched memory voltage at all - I'm not even sure when and if I need to change it.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated...
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« Reply #145 on: 31-October-07, 14:51:12 »

Tight timings aren't the magical cure for a am2 system if you don't even reach the ram speed which is standard for am2 cpus. These are rated with ddr2-800. When you're just at ddr2-480 you're system is slower than a cpu with same clockspeed and ddr2-800 no matter the timings.
Your performance will be very much improved with higer ram clocks.
According to your validation, you have ddr2-800 ram but you're running it at half that speed. The instructions you followed were surely meant for ddr1 systems. So I strongly recommend to try getting more clockspeed. I'd try cpu/8 at 5-5-5-18 2T. If that works try cpu/7.
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« Reply #146 on: 31-October-07, 15:08:55 »

I'll give it a try.

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« Reply #147 on: 31-October-07, 18:19:03 »

I'm posting from the machine right now.

It's sitting stable with DDR2 @ 446Mhz, timings at 5-5-5-15-20-2T.

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« Reply #148 on: 31-October-07, 18:25:53 »

Run ORTHOS for a few hours, that will test stability.
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« Reply #149 on: 31-October-07, 18:31:37 »

Run ORTHOS for a few hours, that will test stability.

Yeah, I plan on running Orthos overnight to be 100% sure, but it passes short test on S&M, which is a fairly decent indicator that it will be close...

My question is this:

If it's stable, would you leave it with such loose timings, given that the mem freq is now so much higher?
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