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Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
« on: 09-August-07, 03:31:20 »

Hello!

Let's see..

I was cleaning out my PC last night. I was of course not using any water or a vacuum cleaner, but dry q-tips and small cotton pads. So, when I was booting up my PC after cleaning it, this is what happens:

I can hear and see that both my CPU and graphics card fans are activated. I assume this indicates that they are alive and well. The PSU also works as normal, with all lamps for all the volts shining green.

But, neither my CD ROM or harddrive boots. It seems like they aren't getting any power.

The first thing I reacted to was the power lamp on the front of my PC. The green lamp shines for about 3 seconds, before it jumps to the orange one, which also shines for about 3 seconds, before it jumps back to the green again, and so on. I guess this is a indication for that something isn't right. I tried checking the manual for my MB, but I didn't find anything that could help me solve this "code". I can add that the PC speaker doesn't make any sound.

Nothing appears on the screen either. Just the power lamp shines orange. It doesn't blink or anything.

So, what I have tested so far:

- My harddrive works. I tested it in another PC, and it works without any problem.

- I thought the obvious thing was that my PSU was broken, but I tested the system with another one, and it doesn't work with that one either.

- I checked the PSU with a multimeter, and everything is working as it should.

- I tried booting with another graphics card. Same result.

- I have tried booting with the minimum amount of hardware, still I get the same result.

- I also just tried to boot without any harddrives connected, and for some reason, I still get the same result.

My specs are as followed:

Power supply: http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/power_management/ocz_powerstream_power_supply (The 520W version)
Motherboard: VIA MSI K8T800 NEO
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ 2,2Ghz
RAM: OCZ Premier 1024 MB PC3200
Graphics card: POV GeForce 6600 AGP

So what I think the problem is, is that something on my MB is broken, so it wont support the CD ROM and harddrives with power. But I thought posting here would be a good idea, in case any of you guys in here have any suggestions for what could be wrong. I would be very grateful for any advice or help! :)
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Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
« Reply #1 on: 09-August-07, 04:28:24 »
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  • try with board out of case, it can be shorten somewhere. use barabone setup & check and ensure all power cables are plugged.
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #2 on: 09-August-07, 04:41:40 »

    Hello, thanks for replying!

    All power cables are connected correctly, I think I have checked that about 10 times just to be sure.

    I am not familiar with the "barabone setup" you are mentioning. Can you specify that please?

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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #3 on: 09-August-07, 04:45:17 »
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  • with minimum comonents required to boot, e.g. VGA, one memory stick in 1st DIMM near to CPU socket, disconnect everythink else any USB device attached, any external PCI cards, any storages, CD/DVD drives.
    but take board out of case 1st, it can be shorted in a case.
    try with different & better PSU too...
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #4 on: 09-August-07, 04:50:57 »
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  • When taking the board out, lay it on a piece of cardboard to test. Be sure no conducting materials are under it. You can use a flat screw driver to connect the two powr pins.
    Do you have D-Bracket connected? If so, what does it tell you (four leds on the usb-bracket on the back).
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    « Reply #5 on: 09-August-07, 04:53:24 »
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  • forgot to add, remove a power cord from PSU then Clear CMOS as well.
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #6 on: 09-August-07, 05:08:26 »

    Ah, yes, I have tried to boot with minimum amount of hardware connected. I still got the same result.

    Sorry, I do not have D-Bracket connected. The only signal the PC gives me are those blinking green and orange lights I mentioned in my first post.

    I have also tried to clear CMOS, got the same result.

    Dont you think my PSU is good enough for my system? I have been using it for over a year without any problems.

    I'll try testing it with the board out of the case. Im just wondering, how is that going to help? Not questioning anything here, Im just eager to learn :)
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    « Reply #7 on: 09-August-07, 05:57:18 »
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  • Ah, yes, I have tried to boot with minimum amount of hardware connected. I still got the same result.

    Sorry, I do not have D-Bracket connected. The only signal the PC gives me are those blinking green and orange lights I mentioned in my first post.

    I have also tried to clear CMOS, got the same result.

    Dont you think my PSU is good enough for my system? I have been using it for over a year without any problems.

    I'll try testing it with the board out of the case. Im just wondering, how is that going to help? Not questioning anything here, Im just eager to learn :)
    "Dont you think my PSU is good enough for my system? I have been using it for over a year without any problems."
    yes, but it can be damaged with a time....
    "I'll try testing it with the board out of the case. Im just wondering, how is that going to help? Not questioning anything here, Im just eager to learn :)"
    look in the posts above...
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #8 on: 09-August-07, 06:45:39 »

    Alright then. I'll try it tomorrow and post the results here. Thanks for the help so far :)
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #9 on: 10-August-07, 20:01:54 »

    Hello again.

    After some troubles and inventing new curse words, I finally managed to get that MB out of the case. The guy who mounted it cant be proud of the work he did. Anyway, I still get the same results. Im starting to feel more and more sure about that the MB is broken somewhere. But, maybe you guys have some more tips I can try before eventually buying a new MB. You have been great help so far, so thank you for that :)
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #10 on: 10-August-07, 20:20:17 »
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  • Leave the board disconnected from any power, without the battery, for a day or so and try it again. I don't know why, but leaving a board alone somethimes cures the problem. You can also visually inspect the board for swallen or tored caps (the barrel-shaped components you find everywhere on the board, often lined up in rows of a few...).
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #11 on: 10-August-07, 21:46:58 »

    Alright then, I'll try that. If this doesnt work, and the components are fine, is the solution to go out and get a new MB? I doubt that they even produce the MB I have anymore.. Guess I got to spend some money on new equipment :undecided:
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    « Reply #12 on: 10-August-07, 22:01:26 »
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  • Next time, be very carefull cleaning out the pc. Better leave it alone or use compressed air to blow dust out. See to it that the compressed air does not leave any wet spots (condens?) on the PCB. So, if you do it this way, see to it that you blow out the air holding the can about half a meter away from the pcb. Otherwise, it will condensate due to temp-differences.
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #13 on: 10-August-07, 22:14:38 »

    Believe me, I am extremely careful when it comes to handling computer parts. I guess I was just unlucky this time.. Thanks for the help though :) I'll post in here after I get a new MB, especially if it still doesnt work!
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    « Reply #14 on: 11-August-07, 06:05:16 »
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  • Sometimes the bracket for mouse, keyboard etc isn't in place. Without keyboard some BIOS will halt. In the same manner, the reset button or power button on the case can be "always pushed".
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    Re: Half dead PC, HDD and CD rom wont boot
    « Reply #15 on: 14-August-07, 03:51:47 »
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  • Check out my post here, I realize you've already done most of the things in that list, but try them all multiple times.

    but try to get the motherboard to produce beep codes, if you can get it to produce beep codes it at least shows that the motherboard is able to see that there is something wrong, which most of the time means the mobo does still function.
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