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Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« on: 31-January-09, 11:37:55 »

Hi there,

First of all, DDR2-1066 is ONLY supported with a Phenom AND 1 or 2 sticks (2 sticks see manual for dual-channel slots!).
Second, go into the BIOS and set memory from Auto or 1:2 to 1:2.66, no other things need to be done.

That's it!

Ps. if your memory still won't do it, then it's probably NOT real DDR1066 memory.
Ps2. if your memory need more then the default voltage, best set the voltage to specified.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #1 on: 31-January-09, 12:17:29 »

Small note: DDR2-1066 with four sticks will work fine, as long as you have single sided memory modules. Single sided meaning they have only one rank, for example eight 1 Gbit memory chips (a 1 GB memory module) or eight 2 Gbit memory chips (a 2 GB memory module).
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #2 on: 07-February-09, 02:18:21 »

Gskill 1066 2x4GB in the K9A2 unganged, first two slots, settings as above 1:2:66 runs at 533 per side, runs very fast, little heat. Believe it or not running at 5-7-7-20 2T.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #3 on: 07-February-09, 10:29:42 »

Some BIOS versions apply higher latencies when using the 1:2.66 ratio, I get the same latencies...
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #4 on: 15-February-09, 16:04:29 »

K9A2 Platinum, AMD Phenom II 940 Black, Kingston HyperX KHX8500D2K2/4G (that's two sticks of 2Gb)

Kingston reckon this stuff's tested to run 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2V and guess what? It does too.......
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #5 on: 15-February-09, 21:10:07 »

Please stop discussing timings, it's only about the setting to run 1066 and 2 sticks, nothing more.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #6 on: 22-March-09, 16:00:29 »

G.Skill F2-8500CL5D 2x2gb, problems when first installed, lock ups etc., until increasing voltage to 2.0V as per instructions. Running perfectly stable at 1066.

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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #7 on: 24-March-09, 07:19:55 »

I have it at 800 thanks.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #8 on: 30-March-09, 18:25:41 »

Hi, I will first say that I'm no super expert on building PC's but I did have a look at the details of the board and what it supports from the site and it does state that it will work with AM2+ at 1066 from the overview.  So I went and bought the following and installed it.  I have the K9A2 Platinum v1 motherboard, AMD Phenom™ X4 Quad-Core 9950 2600 AM2+ 125 W  processor and 8G and 2 of OCZ 4GB Kit (2x2GB) DDR2 1066MHz/PC2-8500 Reaper Memory HPC Edition Dual (8Gig total).

I have vista installed and running fine, I thought that upgrading the BIOS to latest version would help it run at 1066 instead of 800 but of course no joy, hense me being here in this forum.

OK, I see the post from Bas that states


First of all, DDR1066 is ONLY supported with a Phenom AND 1 or 2 sticks (2 sticks see manual for dual-channel slots!).
Second, go into the BIOS and set memory from Auto or 1:2 to 1:2.66, no other things need to be done.

That's it!

Ps. if your memory still won't do it, then it's probably NOT real DDR1066 memory.
Ps2. if your memory need more then the default voltage, best set the voltage to specified.

So I can see that it will only run at 1066 with 1 or 2 sticks so my 4 stick 8Gig setup will probably have to run at 800.

My question is will there be future updates of the BIOS to enable the 4 stick 8 GIG memory or will I just have to live with 800 now?  Or just cut my losses and get a new motherboard that supports 1066 properly?

I would be very pleased if I get an answer (if not too sarcastic :-))

Thanks
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #9 on: 30-March-09, 18:34:15 »

Has nothing to do with the motherboard or the memory.
It's a CPU limitation, the AMD CPU will only support 2 banks of memory at full speed PER channel.

So:

Phenom = 2 banks per channel = 4 banks total = DDR2-1066 = 1 dual sided stick per channel = 2 single sided sticks per channel
Athlon = 2 banks per channel = 4 banks total = DDR2-800 = 1 dual sided stick per channel = 2 single sided sticks per channel

If you put more banks per channel you have to drop the speed.

There will not be any BIOS or motherboard that can fix this, as the memory controller is INSIDE the CPU.
however, there are some boards that alter the memory settings that it looks like you run full speed, but all they do is ajust the timings to they look like functioning at full speed.

Please people, do not ask the same question over and over again, this has been answered too many times already.

It's a CPU limitation, period.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #10 on: 30-March-09, 19:09:07 »

Thankyou for your quick response.  This is the answer I have been looking for!

Sorry that it is a question that as been asked over and over again but I didn't see it after an hour of trawling through the forums.  If I'd have seen it I wouldn't have asked the question in the first place.  I hate forums as I can never find a direct answer to a particular problem and then when you ask the question you get people p**d off with answering, so I still hate them but thanks anyway.

Sorry for the inconvenience.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #11 on: 30-March-09, 20:27:58 »

If you would have used  Search and entered: Phenom 1066

It would have given so many answers, all saying the same.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #12 on: 09-April-09, 18:01:58 »

Hi there,

First of all, DDR1066 is ONLY supported with a Phenom AND 1 or 2 sticks (2 sticks see manual for dual-channel slots!).
Second, go into the BIOS and set memory from Auto or 1:2 to 1:2.66, no other things need to be done.

That's it!

Ps. if your memory still won't do it, then it's probably NOT real DDR1066 memory.
Ps2. if your memory need more then the default voltage, best set the voltage to specified.

Pls. define "real DDR1066". It it actually DDR2 1066. DDR (1) does not support over 400 MHz clock speeds. There is no such thing as "real 1066 MHz" modules... those are all 800 MHz modules, capable of running at basic speed of 533 Mhz, (2 X 533 =1066), instead of 400 MHz, and at higher voltage than 800 MHz chips. This is what they call "extended/high performance"

The above is incorrect. Info verified with OCZ technical support. DDR2 1066 MHz modules need 2.1 to 2.2 V to operate properly and stable.
if you only set speed ratio to 1:2.66 and leave everything else on auto, then the motherboard would supply only 1.8 V to the RAM. System will crash.
I have experienced that. Plus you need to manually set the timings in BIOS and not leave them to auto. In my case OCZ Platinum 2 x 2 GB chips, timing is:
5-5-5-18 and CMD=2T. Voltage: 2.1-2.2V. I found out that 2.2 V works better in my system. I know this is inconvenient to many (it was to me too), but this is the world of AMD Phenom II in combination with AMD 790GX chipsets. It's an incomplete design, released in a hurry. Too bad.
Also that 790 GX chipset does not support 4 chips of RAM at 1066 MHz. it will support them at 800 MHz... also in that instance, voltage should be set in BIOS to: 2.1-2.2V. Otherwise system is unstable (crashes). Thank you.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #13 on: 09-April-09, 18:04:34 »

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Kingston reckon this stuff's tested to run 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2V and guess what? It does too.......

Isn't the K9A2 based on nVidia chipset instead of AMD chipset? In that case, the 1066 MHz speed is automatically supported, using the EPP capability built in the
nVidia chipset. AMD 790GX chipset does not support that.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #14 on: 09-April-09, 18:11:41 »

dinub1, JEDEC did adopt standards for DDR2 1066, but the sticks(with JEDEC standard SPD timings/voltages) are so rare, and may not even be being made now, that pretty much, any DDR2 1066 RAM is overclocked DDR2 800.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #15 on: 09-April-09, 19:09:28 »

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Also that 790 GX chipset does not support 4 chips of RAM at 1066 MHz.

Chipset has nothing to do with it, the memory controller is INSIDE the CPU.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #16 on: 10-April-09, 00:40:24 »

dinub1, JEDEC did adopt standards for DDR2 1066, but the sticks(with JEDEC standard SPD timings/voltages) are so rare, and may not even be being made now, that pretty much, any DDR2 1066 RAM is overclocked DDR2 800.

Frankenputer, therefore you do not disagree with me.  :) I had a long talk (emails) with OCZ tech support, they were very helpful and explicit.
They advised that in order to take advantage of the full 1066 speed as default (in BIOS), one needs to use a motherboard with an nVidia chipset.
The AMD 790GX chipset does not yet fully implement 1066 native support for these RAM chips.
I am not someone who enjoys to fine tune the system to its utmost performance, I usually leave settings on "auto", but in order to do this with 790 GX chipset, one must go into BIOS and fine tune the settings. Otherwise it will work at 800 "standard" speed :)
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #17 on: 10-April-09, 02:39:11 »

No, I disagree with your statement that "there are NO real 1066 DDR2 modules." But, essentially, any DDR2 1066 module will be overclocked DDR2 800.  What OCZ is telling you about NVIDIA chipsets has to do with EPP, Extended Performance Profiles, which is only available with NVIDIA chipsets that support EPP.  The Intel chipset counterpart is XMP.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #18 on: 10-April-09, 02:51:24 »

"Isn't the K9A2 based on nVidia chipset instead of AMD chipset?"

 Don't know where you get such an idea, K9A2 = AMD, K9N2 = NVIDIA.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #19 on: 10-April-09, 16:16:35 »

OCZ is wrong!
The memory is controlled by the CPU (in combination with the BIOS, after the CPU has started), the chipset has NOTHING to do with it.
Please drop this, as the topic isn't about this, it's only about how to set DDR1066 as some people have problems with it.

If you have SPD-JEDEC (not EPP) settings in your memory, then the sticks will run 1066 on auto, else they will not and you have to set it by hand.
However, some BIOS'ses are able to read EPP if you enable the setting, but it has zero to do with the chipset.
Anyway, you can always set them by hand, regardless what board if you have the options to do so.

In case of DDR1066, it's advisable to set the speed by hand if you want to reach max performance.
OCZ should be able to give you the proper settings that you can set by hand.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #20 on: 10-April-09, 19:46:31 »

OCZ is wrong!
The memory is controlled by the CPU (in combination with the BIOS, after the CPU has started), the chipset has NOTHING to do with it.
Please drop this, as the topic isn't about this, it's only about how to set DDR1066 as some people have problems with it.

If you have SPD-JEDEC (not EPP) settings in your memory, then the sticks will run 1066 on auto, else they will not and you have to set it by hand.
However, some BIOS'ses are able to read EPP if you enable the setting, but it has zero to do with the chipset.
Anyway, you can always set them by hand, regardless what board if you have the options to do so.

In case of DDR1066, it's advisable to set the speed by hand if you want to reach max performance.
OCZ should be able to give you the proper settings that you can set by hand.

You are responding to who?  :)
I know RAM is controlled  by CPU (for AMD CPU's)... however your statement was wrong. This is not enough to only set up RAM to FSB ratio to 1:2.66 in BIOS. You also need to set up timings and RAM voltage (manually). This is all I stated. The rest of your comment is irrelevant. Dropped :)
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #21 on: 30-June-09, 20:03:45 »

Small note: DDR2-1066 with four sticks will work fine, as long as you have single sided memory modules. Single sided meaning they have only one rank, for example eight 1 Gbit memory chips (a 1 GB memory module) or eight 2 Gbit memory chips (a 2 GB memory module).

me myself with 4x1gb Kingston hyperX 1066 still can't auto detect as 1066. my dka 790gx platinum(flashed 1.70) will only detected as 800.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #22 on: 01-July-09, 15:07:53 »

4 sticks at 1066 isn't supported by the CPU, it's explained already, please start reading at the 1st post.
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« Reply #23 on: 02-July-09, 20:33:18 »

I bought last week the AMD 955 and I expected to run my KINGSTON HYPER X 8500 AT 1066 mhZ and maybe it does but I am not sure !! CPU-Z states in the bookmark "memory" under DRAM Frequency 533,4 Mhz

BUT in the bookmark "SPD" there is no indication of this and it ends with 400 Mhz !!
I am using two sticks of this Kingston memory in the CORRECT slots (lane 1 and 2)
so what is it folks ?  :undecided:
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #24 on: 02-July-09, 20:43:28 »

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BUT in the bookmark "SPD" there is no indication of this and it ends with 400 Mhz !!

Well, the SPD Tab only shows the SPD Profiles that Kingston has programmed to the SPD Chips of the memory modules.  It will tell you nothing about the current memory speed & timings.  Your modules are not real DDR2-1066 modules, so that is probably why there is no SPD Profile for DDR2-1066 (533 MHz).

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CPU-Z states in the bookmark "memory" under DRAM Frequency 533,4 Mhz

That means your memory is currently running at the effective speed of DDR2-1066.

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« Reply #25 on: 03-July-09, 07:24:59 »

that's what I wanted to know : many thx !!!!! :hat tip:
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #26 on: 05-July-09, 19:58:08 »

Oops ... still 2 questions  ;D

1. I trottled the memory settings to 5 5 5 15 21 but is it really necessary to go from 1.8 V to 2.2 v?
2. is "ganged" or "unganged" mode the default setting (I forgot it after changing  :think:)

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« Reply #27 on: 06-July-09, 04:49:38 »

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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #28 on: 02-October-09, 01:46:21 »

I have a OCZ DDR2 Ram 800MHZ, can I set that to 1066MHZ?? well I tried it set to 1066, it turn to  bluescreen, so no go. Should I go up the voltage?
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #29 on: 02-October-09, 06:37:51 »

Its not a 1066MHz RAM, but you might be able to overclock it.  I don't know.  Just take it with a grain of salt.

I have a OCZ DDR2 Ram 800MHZ, can I set that to 1066MHZ?? well I tried it set to 1066, it turn to  bluescreen, so no go. Should I go up the voltage?
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #30 on: 02-October-09, 07:45:36 »

artRemedy, you've asked that question elsewhere and there is no need to hijack this thread with the same question. You have PC6400 RAM anyway and it has nothing to do with this topic. Please try to keep your questions all in the same thread instead of jumping all over the forum.

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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #31 on: 02-January-10, 02:17:15 »

Hello, this is my PC specification:

AMD Athlon II X2 250
MSI 770T-C45 with BIOS update v8.4
Kingston Hyper-X KHX8500D2 DDR2 1066 2X1GB (dual channels mode)
XFX ATI Radeon™ HD 4850 512 MB DDR3 (HD-485X-YHFC)
WDC 80 GB 7200RPM HDD
Creative SB Audigy LS
MS Windows 7 32bit
CM eXtreme Power Plus 500W

First of all, DDR1066 is ONLY supported with a Phenom AND 1 or 2 sticks (2 sticks see manual for dual-channel slots!).
Second, go into the BIOS and set memory from Auto or 1:2 to 1:2.66, no other things need to be done.

Yes, I have Athlon but i read at AMD site saying that,
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/athlon-ii-x2/Pages/AMD-athlon-ii-x2-processor-model-numbers-feature-comparison.aspx
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Type of Memory Supported - X2 - Support for unregistered DIMMs up to PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066MHz) -AND- PC3-8500 (DDR3-1066MHz)

But my RAM only run at 800! Try to set at 1:2.66 but system can't boot up. I have to clear CMOS after that.

PLS help me, thanks.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #32 on: 02-January-10, 03:53:23 »

mame32kawaks, don't hijack, start your own topic.

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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #33 on: 22-May-10, 15:43:22 »

Hi there,

First of all, DDR1066 is ONLY supported with a Phenom AND 1 or 2 sticks (2 sticks see manual for dual-channel slots!).
Second, go into the BIOS and set memory from Auto or 1:2 to 1:2.66, no other things need to be done.

That's it!

Ps. if your memory still won't do it, then it's probably NOT real DDR1066 memory.
Ps2. if your memory need more then the default voltage, best set the voltage to specified.

So does this lomitation apply to DDR3 1066 as well as the DDR2?
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #34 on: 22-May-10, 16:55:37 »

So does this lomitation apply to DDR3 1066 as well as the DDR2?

See this topic: http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=130042.0
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #35 on: 14-September-10, 02:02:52 »

I have read that the difference between running ram at 800 and 1066 makes no noticeable difference.  I have to say that in my experience this is true.  Is there another reason to set it at 1066? (I read most of this thread but not all)

I have MSI K9A2 Platinum v.1 with mem running unganged.  Phenom2 x4 940
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #36 on: 11-March-11, 06:18:54 »

Bas is the man thank you it is so simple. :hat tip:
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #37 on: 10-April-11, 17:54:47 »

Ok, since that is the case.... Is it better to have 2x2GB sticks at 1066 or 2x2GB and 2x1GB sticks at 800.

In short, 4GBs at 1066 or 6GBs at 800? Thanks!
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #38 on: 11-April-11, 19:34:42 »

Ok, since that is the case.... Is it better to have 2x2GB sticks at 1066 or 2x2GB and 2x1GB sticks at 800.

In short, 4GBs at 1066 or 6GBs at 800? Thanks!

See this FAQ: http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/amd64-and-memory-explained

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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #39 on: 27-December-11, 21:36:55 »

Very long time no see.  :agrees
1066 ram actually is slow compared to 800 @ T1, there is also better opportunity to pull the timings tighter as well as overclocking.  :sleep:   :hat tip:
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #40 on: 27-February-12, 18:59:12 »

See this FAQ: http://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article/amd64-and-memory-explained

If you have any further questions, please start your own new topic.

Stu, I think he was asking for an opinion about whether performance might not be better at 8GB and 4 sticks--And NOT asking if he could clock 4 sticks at 1066.
There are many of us who wade through the info w/o having terms and specs burned into our brains, yet--Trying to see what we can do with our options.
--See, there is a middle ground of people who are interested and capable of tweaking their systems to suit their wants. Forums should actually be reaching-out to such people, not sniping them. In fact, if the experts were more genius, they would address issues in a manner that answered potential questions and problems for newbs and sophomores--That would prevent most of the seemingly similar questions.
However, if respondents desires are to be at the top of their own little snipey-nerd-mound, they will always succeed--And since they never look downward, they won't notice that they are, at the same time, on the bottom of it--It being a mound of one.

You want to know why this thread is a pain to sophomores? 1) Second entry on thread causes false hope, 2) Not knowing how single/dual channel relates to SR, DR, QR.

His was a valid question for addressing on this thread. If you guys don't like helping people out, then don't pretend to. If MSI had (and or AMD) had definitive specs listed in an organized and useful manner, we wouldn't need to ask tech questions of forums. Being hammered by respondents of forums is a poor substitute for what is reasonably expected. Yes, there are trolls, but a 10 word opinion of which you thought might work better is pretty easy.

Now, what is someone's future option to not be treated badly and still get their tech questions answered? 3 words, 3 letters each.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #41 on: 27-February-12, 19:13:45 »

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Stu, I think he was asking for an opinion about whether performance might not be better at 8GB and 4 sticks--And NOT asking if he could clock 4 sticks at 1066.
 

Exactly, stuff that has not much to do with this thread in the first case.  That is why Stu said:

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The user was kindly asked to do that if he needed to know more.  Obiously he did not want to.
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His was a valid question for addressing on this thread. If you guys don't like helping people out, then don't pretend to.

We do help people out, we tell them to start their own topics in order to get the proper attention to their specific configurations and questions.

In fact, most of us are here every day on our own time to help people. We don't work for MSI, we don't get paid. And no, we are not perfect. Every one of us that is here regularely to support this community has the right to post a rather short reply once in a while or have a crappy day.

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Yes, there are trolls, but a 10 word opinion of which you thought might work better is pretty easy.

Now, what is someone's future option to not be treated badly and still get their tech questions answered? 3 words, 3 letters each.

Nobody was treated badly here.  And neither are you, when I honestly tell you that your post did not help in the slightest way to answer that particular user's question either, which (by the way) was asked almost a year ago and had not the slightest sign of an MSI product or any specific information about the processor being used.

What have you done to support this community besides stating a personal opinion about something that happened a year ago? You logged in here to say just that? For what reason?  Before you critize anyone of the regular users here (and that includes moderators and admins) read their thousands of posts and then form your opinion.  :bonk:

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You want to know why this thread is a pain to sophomores? 1) Second entry on thread causes false hope, 2) Not knowing how single/dual channel relates to SR, DR, QR.

Well, create your own thread then, ask what you want to ask as specific as possible and I am sure you will get your answers.




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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #42 on: 28-February-12, 00:51:27 »

 Jack,  :biggthumbsup:
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #43 on: 28-February-12, 01:45:21 »

Jack,
The topic is sticky so dates are moot. You opine, as well. Admitting imperfections while ignoring them does little good. One of them is jumping in on a comment that clearly was not addressed to you in order to snidely defend you grand ego, which must have somehow been threatened. Whatever.
You see my hardware setup and my words, so you can imagine my valid interest in the topic. You can also see that my comment was intended to be helpful to the world of forums. I'm glad it was received as intended. ~.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #44 on: 28-February-12, 02:54:42 »

 Sorry but stickies are mainly for instructional purpose and not trouble shooting individual problems.
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Re: Set ram to 1066 when it's running 800!
« Reply #45 on: 28-February-12, 10:03:07 »

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Admitting imperfections while ignoring them does little good.

That is one way to look at it.  Another way is this:

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/zen/time-of-.txt

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When we can see our own imperfections as readily as
we can see the imperfections of others, and when we can allow those others their
imperfections as readily as we ignore our own, then it may be said that we love
our fellow beings. [...] When we can accept others for what they are, rather than try to change them
to what we would have them be, or even wish that they are something other than
they are, then we perform an act of love.

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One of them is jumping in on a comment that clearly was not addressed to you in order to snidely defend you grand ego, which must have somehow been threatened. Whatever.

As a user of this forum I am entitled to state my opinion about something that does not personally affect me in the same way that you posted your opinion about something that was never addressed to you personally either, when it was written one year ago.

Oh, and about my "grand ego": I was not talking about myself, and I wasn't not even talking about Stu personally either.  Note the words "we", "us", "community" and "regular users".

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You see my hardware setup and my words, so you can imagine my valid interest in the topic.

What is your actual question?

As I said:

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Well, create your own thread then, ask what you want to ask as specific as possible and I am sure you will get your answers.

... and as Henry said:

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Sorry but stickies are mainly for instructional purpose and not trouble shooting individual problems.

Your are more then welcome to open your own topic and ask specific questions about what you want to know.  In case you want to continue the discussion about "forum manners" or whatever heading you prefer regarding the criticism of other peoples postings, then please start a thread in out "Anything under the sun" chit-chat area or contact whoever you want to critize personally personally. Thank you.

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