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K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« on: 24-March-09, 10:52:34 »

I have a K9N2 SLI Platinum and have a Phenom 940 on the way. Are there still issues with bios 3.4? what is the proper way to flash to 3.4 so the volatge is normal ? I just flashed via the usb meathod but dont i have to reset and clear cmos? also what is the stock proper voltage for the phenom 940? is it 1.375 or 1.350?

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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #1 on: 24-March-09, 13:08:54 »

The stock voltage is 1.35v. A for 3.4 bugs look here https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=125080.0 After flashing you can clear cmos to reset all defaults.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #2 on: 24-March-09, 14:50:31 »

If your update was successful as I presume, you should have informed BIOS about the new processors and what settings they have. Yes, pulling power cable out and clear CMOS is a good thing when changing processor. And, think of it this way, you would have to pull the power cable out anyway so there is no extra work really.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #3 on: 28-March-09, 19:50:21 »

well I put in and it was 1.8, set it to auto and jumps around between 1.35 and 1.38. some one else said they got thiers at 1.35. so what did i do wrong?
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #4 on: 29-March-09, 01:35:19 »

You could manually set to 1.35.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #5 on: 29-March-09, 09:35:19 »

thats the problem there is no setting for 1.35
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #6 on: 29-March-09, 09:38:01 »

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well I put in and it was 1.8, set it to auto and jumps around between 1.35 and 1.38.

Well that looks normal to me, so leave it at that. Voltage readings are rarely 100% accurate, and there'll always be a little fluctuation.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #7 on: 02-April-09, 13:38:15 »

I am running my Phenom II 940 with BIOS v3.4 on my K9N2 SLI Platinum.

I have the setting in my BIOS for v1.350 and have it manually set to that.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #8 on: 03-April-09, 16:50:06 »

how did you update our bios? could you maby send me the bios file you used?
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #9 on: 03-April-09, 17:12:48 »

I downloaded the file from MSI's product page for this Mobo, on their website.

http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=171&prod_no=1443

Click on the Tab for BIOS; to the right on the top.  Right next to the Board's Name.

I did it using a standard USB Flash Drive that was set up to be bootable; configured the original BIOS to boot from USB; and flashed the BIOS from there!
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #10 on: 03-April-09, 17:30:04 »

Thats exactly what I did. I thought yours might be somehow different
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #11 on: 03-April-09, 18:37:28 »

I also cleared out my CMOS after updating the BIOS.  Took the cmos battery out, and pulled the power cord, then let it sit while cooked some dinner.  Then went back put the battery back in, plugged it in and booted up.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #12 on: 03-April-09, 19:55:01 »

ill try it again. do you still have the file, I want to see if its the same size as the one on the link.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #13 on: 03-April-09, 20:30:36 »

still 1.375 is the lowest then auto.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #14 on: 03-April-09, 21:16:25 »

did you clear the cmos?
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #15 on: 04-April-09, 10:42:58 »

yes i pulled out the power and the battery but, i did not press the button.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #16 on: 04-April-09, 11:47:31 »

There is obviously something very wrong with this model Motherboard then, as; you are not the only person who can not get the correct voltages in the BIOS after flashing; and yet I and others can.  They are also very misleading with their advertisements on this Board as they advertise that it supports 1066, and they advertise OCZ as a supported brand; but it seems that they do not support OCZ at 1066.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #17 on: 04-April-09, 11:50:20 »

MSI isnt evan paying attention to these problems. hopefully, eventually they will release a new bios
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #18 on: 04-April-09, 12:32:07 »

Are you contacting MSI about this issue?  MSI doesn't come here and read the forums often--in fact, so rarely that I can almost state that no one from MSI reads or posts here.  This is a User to User forum.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #19 on: 04-April-09, 12:37:03 »

I did contact them they siad the 1.37 was ok voltage. I will try again tho
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #20 on: 04-April-09, 13:00:54 »

theres nothing wrong with hummers motherboard, ive been posting about this problem since jan when they released the 940, some boards seem to default to 1.8v after bios reset (mine included) some dont, also some have the 1.350v setting in bios (mine doesnt). there deffo seems to be 2 different versions going around of the k9n2 sli platinum (even the revision number matches) msi did ask me on day about what was writtern on the sticker on the pci slot tho.
the last post talking about this got locked so we couldnt take about it. msi even sent me beta bios with lower voltages (except 1.350v eg 1.325,1.320) none of it gave a 1.350v setting.

msi tech support seem abit clueless ,when i first got my k9n2 sli i had a motherboard temp reading between from 110F to 126F (thats over 200+C lol), they said i had faulty heatpipes, which was plain stupid at those temps it would be on fire (turned out it was a sensor that all these boards have that doesnt work, this is a know problem and has been addressed in later versions of everest..etc).

to hummer just put your cpu voltage at (auto) you will be good to overclock to about 3.4-3.5ghz, no point asking here because those that dont have this problem will say its you or you havent set up properly and msi wont help.
but dont give up on the board tho because once you know all its querks the board is excellent. overclocks great and stable ive had my 940be on this board at 3.9ghz stable, just annoying if your one of those people who like to run at stock but get temps as cool as you can.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #21 on: 04-April-09, 13:14:55 »

Digital...

Not sure if I've asked you before but, what brand Memory are you using, and what Model of that brand is it?
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #22 on: 04-April-09, 13:23:31 »

 ".....from 110F to 126F (thats over 200+C lol),"
 
 Not even close, 110oF = 43.33oC, 126oF = 52.22oC.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #23 on: 04-April-09, 14:04:11 »

yea sorry about that had the C and F round the wrong way, thanks for the very helpful solutions :undecided:
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #24 on: 04-April-09, 14:57:38 »

8gb OCZ PC 6400 800mhz SLI. It idles around 30C mostly 1.36v. maby i will overclock it. I build computers for customers, and when some one needs a SLI board I will put this one in and buy my self a Foxconn destroyer. but for now its ok.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #25 on: 05-April-09, 06:47:37 »

sorry cjc just noticed you replied, Geil Black dragon 1066 5-5-5-15 , ive also tried Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 and Corsair xms2 ddr800 4-4-4-12 ,so im pretty sure its not ram as they all work perfect.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #26 on: 05-April-09, 19:14:32 »

is it worth upgrading to a core i7 920?
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« Reply #27 on: 05-April-09, 19:52:49 »

No the phenom II 940 is a superb processor, you will hardly see any if at all improvement with i7 when gaming. unless your one of those people that think superpi and other intel optimized benchmarks are the be all end all. encoding is very quick as well (havent found an encoder to max out all 4 cores yet) and with a decent cooler you should be able to set 3.5-3.6ghz 24/7 no probs.
i noticed you were using ddr800 ,you will get extra bandwidth with 1066. i did alot of 3dmark06 runs with 2x8800gt and have scored over 20000+ (didnt get any extra score from using ddr800 vs ddr1066), but running everest benchmarks for memory read etc ddr1066 made a big difference.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #28 on: 05-April-09, 20:41:01 »

i was thinkng to build a new system with gtx 260's in SLI, and evga x58 and 12gbs of 1600 ddr3 and the core i7 2.66 but will the cpu be worse than the phenom 940? because its only 2.66ghz and im not going to pay for the 2.9 one
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« Reply #29 on: 06-April-09, 02:21:06 »

i was thinkng to build a new system with gtx 260's in SLI, and evga x58 and 12gbs of 1600 ddr3 and the core i7 2.66 but will the cpu be worse than the phenom 940? because its only 2.66ghz and im not going to pay for the 2.9 one

That sounds Rich, I mean that sounds like a Pretty mean Machine.  :D

IF I were you I'd go for only 6Gb of DDR3. Thus not 2 GTX 260's? Instead 2 GTX 275's. The core i7 is pretty good & won't be worse as long as you can OC it, 2 threads per core & DDR3 support is about the only advantage it has over the 940. In actual performance the 940 is easily the winner since it perform pretty equally with only half the threads.

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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #30 on: 06-April-09, 17:40:38 »

The new system came out to 1480 on newegg. Many I'll go for the new Asus 980a mobo and some new graphics cards. Actually I'm not that rich I just make money on computers. How much can I sell my whole system for?
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #31 on: 07-April-09, 06:18:12 »

True  :agrees:, that does not sound very Expensive . I don't quite understand; you're building to sell? or use it? That machine falls into Enthusiast/extreme Category. Most enthusiasts would rather build it themselves, maybe it's different in the states... :confused2: I suppose if you're gonna sell, If it cost you $1480 Suppose you could get about $1900.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #32 on: 07-April-09, 08:12:15 »

I ment how much I could sell my phenom 2 system and replace it with the core i7 system

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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #33 on: 07-April-09, 13:08:32 »

sorry cjc just noticed you replied, Geil Black dragon 1066 5-5-5-15 , ive also tried Gskill 1066 5-5-5-15 and Corsair xms2 ddr800 4-4-4-12 ,so im pretty sure its not ram as they all work perfect.

Thanks Digi!  Actually I wasn't referring to your Ram being any problem for you.  I was wondering, because you're obviously running stable.  You the same Mobo, same CPU,and same GPU's as me, and yet I can't get my Corsair 1066, to run at 1066.  So I've been trying to figure out what other brands of 1066 people are using on this board that works for them!

I'll take a look at Geil when I can afford to; and give them a try! :)
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #34 on: 07-April-09, 17:59:12 »

have you tried uping the voltage, the black dragon works perfect at 1066 from 2.2v to 2.4v, however the gskill requires 2.3v to work perfect at 1066 (so my setup its 2x1gb geil and 2x1gb gskill (total 4gb) voltage set to 2.3v) if i dont set 2.3v i get completely random restarts (could be after afew hours or afew days), all passed with prime and occt.

just in case, after bios reset ddr is set to 800 as default ,go into bios and set divider to 1066, then set timings to 5-5-5-15 (dont use auto/sli ready) bios sets strange timings by default at 1066 then set voltage and save.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #35 on: 07-April-09, 19:27:59 »

so does 8GB or 1066 work? I was thinking of getting the if cant sell my system: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #36 on: 07-April-09, 19:39:29 »

also my cpu score in 3dmark vantage was 29143 that sounds high compared to the i7 920 only got 17009 and i7 965 overclocked to 4.3 ghz got 31669.
I am thinking about just getting some gtx 275s and keeping everything else and maby some 1066 ram. is there a big preformace boost with ddr3 1600 vs ddr2 1066?
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #37 on: 08-April-09, 04:27:33 »

so does 8GB or 1066 work? I was thinking of getting the if cant sell my system: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166

No, as you need 4 sticks with that memory, and 4 sticks is only DDR800.
1066 is only with 2 sticks (1 per channel if double-sided sticks)

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Your board doesn't take DDR3, you need a new board...but it's hardly worth it.


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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #38 on: 08-April-09, 08:14:58 »

I ment DDR3 on the x58 mobo. and I wanted to know if the K9N2 SLI bios takes 4x 2GB DDR2 1066 for 8GB and runs it at 1066
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #39 on: 08-April-09, 13:19:16 »

have you tried uping the voltage, the black dragon works perfect at 1066 from 2.2v to 2.4v, however the gskill requires 2.3v to work perfect at 1066 (so my setup its 2x1gb geil and 2x1gb gskill (total 4gb) voltage set to 2.3v) if i dont set 2.3v i get completely random restarts (could be after afew hours or afew days), all passed with prime and occt.

just in case, after bios reset ddr is set to 800 as default ,go into bios and set divider to 1066, then set timings to 5-5-5-15 (dont use auto/sli ready) bios sets strange timings by default at 1066 then set voltage and save.

I've tried everything and even chatted with MSI Techs over it all, been back and forth between MSI and OCZ for about a month now.. bottom line, MSI told me was that they don't certify or support OCZ ddr1066 on the K9N2 SLI Plat; which OCZ Techs told me, basically. B.S!  ...claiming they tested the Board themselves when it came out.   However OCZ doesn't even have the Board listed on their RAM Configurator on their website; which they claim is MSI's fault... and so on, and so on...

Anyway, OCZ is offering to swap my Reaper Set for a different Model set which they claim is more reliable on AMD processors.  Probably their Gold or SLI model set I'd guess; they don't even advertise on their website any difference in their sticks being "Intel Certified" or "AMD Certified" ... and so on.

Worse case scenario; if in the end whatever they give me still doesn't work, I'll EBAY it and try a set of those geIL Black Dragons.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #40 on: 08-April-09, 14:53:25 »

im just curious but how did u get reapers into the k9n2 sli with a xigmatek 1283, the reason i brought geil was because when u have the xigmatek installed it covers one ram slot so to fill the first 2 slots you need normal height memory, are you using the 2 slots furthest away from the cpu. just a thought.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #41 on: 08-April-09, 15:48:57 »

Please use proper English, we do not allow chat-language.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #42 on: 08-April-09, 18:55:04 »

proper english? do you mean because i referred to the xigmatek as a xiggy. ive edited the word now?
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #43 on: 09-April-09, 01:01:50 »

Proper English, "you" not "u," "I'm" not "im"--some punctuation and even capitalization to know when a sentence begins or ends is useful for understanding what's written especialy for those who do not speak/read English as a native language . English is a second, third, etc. language for many here. Some use online translators--this is a Global forum.  Netchat, MSN language, netspeak, whatever you wish to call it, is not allowed here.
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Re: K9N2 SLI Platinum and Phenom II 940
« Reply #44 on: 09-April-09, 20:46:19 »

im just curious but how did u get reapers into the k9n2 sli with a xigmatek 1283, the reason i brought geil was because when u have the xigmatek installed it covers one ram slot so to fill the first 2 slots you need normal height memory, are you using the 2 slots furthest away from the cpu. just a thought.

Yes, I am using Dimm Slots 3 and 4 at the moment.

I've contacted Xigmatek and sent them pictures of the S1283V mounted on my motherboard, given them some advice on including an additonal mounting bracket so the S1283 can be mounted sideways instead of flat, on an AM2+ socket, so the fan can be blowing out the back of the case.  They're taking that advice to their R&D Department in Taiwan, they tell me... and I also asked for some advice; suggesting using the milling wheel on my DREMEL to take a couple millimeters of metal off the lower fins of the cooler, so I can utilize Dimm Slot 1.  They are checking with their R&D Department for me on this as well.
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