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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #50 on: 11-June-09, 15:08:57 »

Legacy support is disabled, well, that's a good thing.
And what do you mean by DOS? Are you living in the stone ages? If you need a kb in DOS mode, use PS/2.

I am actually going to dismiss the problem so far, that I will report the problem as fixed to MSI bios engeneering team. If you're not content with that, you can contact MSI and ask for a fix. I think this should be enough for you to use the pc normally.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #51 on: 11-June-09, 16:45:16 »

Cases:
1. (Logitech wheel = connected) + (Legacy = Enabled) = Restart->Shutdown->Restart->Shutdown Loop
2. (Logitech wheel = connected) + (Legacy = Disabled) = Restart->Shutdown->Restart->Shutdown Loop
3. (Logitech wheel = disconnected) + (Legacy = Enabled) = POST
4. (Logitech wheel = disconnected) + (Legacy = Disabled) = POST (but not work my OTi Flash Disk, from where I flash always the BIOS)
 
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Result: Problem solved not.

Dénouement:
3. case, and after the boot up, will the wheel connect.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #52 on: 11-June-09, 18:10:56 »

Legacy support is disabled, well, that's a good thing.
And what do you mean by DOS? Are you living in the stone ages? If you need a kb in DOS mode, use PS/2.

I am actually going to dismiss the problem so far, that I will report the problem as fixed to MSI bios engeneering team. If you're not content with that, you can contact MSI and ask for a fix. I think this should be enough for you to use the pc normally.

Hans:

I just flashed to the beta .1A1 version and the shutdown loop occurred until I disconnected my Pro Card Reader from the Front USB Connector: JUSB1. Once I disconnected, the system POSTED and Windows 7 RC launched.

I could not get into the BIOS Setup until after I disconnected the the Pro Card Reader. I have since Disabled USB Device Legacy Support and will try to boot with the Pro Card Reader re-connected. I wouldn't say that it is fixed, yet.

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OK, I reconnected the Pro Card Reader to JUSB1 on the main board with USB Device Legacy Support disabled and it now my computer does 1 shutdown loop, restarts, then POSTS and loads Windows on the second try!  Should I report this via the main MSI trouble ticket method?
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #53 on: 11-June-09, 19:28:43 »

This is very well put:
"When exactly does it stop booting with the USB drive
attached? Does it stop:

A) Right after the POST enumeration screen, before any sign
that windows is starting to load, or

B) Windows has started to load but stops before finished.

If A), check your bios for boot device settings, you may be
able to specify a different boot device. If the bios
*intelligently* switches to different boot devices depending
on whether another (USB drive) is connected, you might need
to leave it connected all the time after making the bios
change. You might instead be able to disable a bios setting
for legacy/USB virtualization which effectively hides the
drive until the OS is loaded.

If B), windows doesn't like what it sees as a removable
device, a flaw in windows causes it to hang up. It's
doubtful MS will fix that since they hadn't bothered to yet
after several years, so your remaining hope for B) is if the
motherboard manufacturer releases a bios that presents the
removable device differently to windows during boot, or
perhaps there are still bios settings related to USB drives
that you can fiddle with to make it finish booting.

Yes, it is quite possible you will have the same problem
with another USB drive, but whether it is certain to be a
problem with no other changes made, I don't know."

http://www.wirelessforums.org/alt-comp-hardware/computer-will-not-boot-usb-hardrive-46319.html

Neither POST sequence or BIOS can restart a system. Functions in BIOS can shut it down, but I doubt very much there is something that can restart the system after such a shutdown. If it was a hardware problem, like traces/metal debris in the motherboard the problem would be the same whatever BIOS version, which isn't the case. - As far as I understood things.  :smile:
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #54 on: 12-June-09, 11:52:43 »



Neither POST sequence or BIOS can restart a system. Functions in BIOS can shut it down, but I doubt very much there is something that can restart the system after such a shutdown. If it was a hardware problem, like traces/metal debris in the motherboard the problem would be the same whatever BIOS version, which isn't the case. - As far as I understood things.  :smile:


The problems this BIOS brougth, for some, was during (before?) POST. Maybe 3-5s after the fans speeding up. This is not anything related to OS.
This is done before the enumerating screen.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #55 on: 12-June-09, 14:55:14 »

I submitted my continuing power off/restart loop error to MSI tech support and received the following response:

Please flash the latest beta BIOS A7388AMS.1A2 from ftp to try.
BIOS\7388\A7388AMS.1A2
After that please unplug the power supply to clear CMOS then go to BIOS to Load Optimized Defaults.

Has anyone tried this BIOS verison .1A2, which was uploaded to the  MSI ftp server this morning?

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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #56 on: 12-June-09, 15:10:33 »

POST is direct, no seconds there. Before POST (Power On Self Test) there is nothing. POST is almost nothing but hardware. If all is OK, the processor will send a signal to BIOS to say all is well and that BIOS should start the hardware CMOS knows about.

Yes, after updating BIOS, when having wrong settings in BIOS, and when changing processor one should pull power cable out and clear CMOS.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #57 on: 12-June-09, 20:31:23 »

I submitted my continuing power off/restart loop error to MSI tech support and received the following response:

Please flash the latest beta BIOS A7388AMS.1A2 from ftp to try.
BIOS\7388\A7388AMS.1A2
After that please unplug the power supply to clear CMOS then go to BIOS to Load Optimized Defaults.

Has anyone tried this BIOS verison .1A2, which was uploaded to the  MSI ftp server this morning?




1a2 has same error for me. had to disable legacy usb. I hope they can fix this by 1.a3 hehe.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #58 on: 13-June-09, 06:56:59 »

Looks to me drive-letters are changing if an USB-flash-thing is connected.
Do you have the same problem WITHOUT some USB-stick but Legacy enabled?
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #59 on: 13-June-09, 08:12:43 »

POST is direct, no seconds there. Before POST (Power On Self Test) there is nothing. POST is almost nothing but hardware. If all is OK, the processor will send a signal to BIOS to say all is well and that BIOS should start the hardware CMOS knows about.

Yes, after updating BIOS, when having wrong settings in BIOS, and when changing processor one should pull power cable out and clear CMOS.

Don't go into talking semantics. This problem occur before the OS does anything, it's occuring before the BIOS screen.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #60 on: 13-June-09, 08:17:48 »

I submitted my continuing power off/restart loop error to MSI tech support and received the following response:

Please flash the latest beta BIOS A7388AMS.1A2 from ftp to try.
BIOS\7388\A7388AMS.1A2
After that please unplug the power supply to clear CMOS then go to BIOS to Load Optimized Defaults.

Has anyone tried this BIOS verison .1A2, which was uploaded to the  MSI ftp server this morning?


There have to be a reason for MSI chosing to not release this official. I mean that they are not releasing for download from the webpage. And trusting them to have a reason for this I would personally opt out for not testing wildy to see if the problem is solved.

The problem with the tip you got from MSI is that when this problem occur I won't be able to get to the BIOS screen. In that case I won't be able to load any defaults. In the case it actually do work, for me this problem have not occured at all times, maybe one could do that.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #61 on: 13-June-09, 08:26:54 »

@Charta360, start your own topic, you are hijacking somebody else his topic, thus making it harder to solve the problem.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #62 on: 15-June-09, 02:54:36 »

TO ALL OF YOU: AFTER FLASHING CLEAR CMOS!
>>Clear CMOS Guide<<
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« Reply #63 on: 15-June-09, 05:50:17 »

TO ALL OF YOU: AFTER FLASHING CLEAR CMOS!
>>Clear CMOS Guide<<


already tried, didn't work.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #64 on: 15-June-09, 09:19:50 »

So again, take out the ReadyBoost disk, see if it changes.
You never answered on this.
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« Reply #65 on: 15-June-09, 12:35:40 »

So again, take out the ReadyBoost disk, see if it changes.
You never answered on this.

Yes, DO ANSER THE QUESTION!
Look, we're tryihg to get things fixed because YOU (and others) asked for it. Now, it really does NOT help not answering the questions being asked.

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« Reply #66 on: 15-June-09, 14:56:07 »

it happens with no usb slots filed. next theory please.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #67 on: 15-June-09, 15:13:19 »

Try the board barebone, only memory, ps/2 keyboard, cpu, videocard and powersupply.
Does the same still happen?

Come to think of it, that RaidMax Volcano is a 3 years old PSU, splitrail and not very powerfull, certainly not designed to handle modern systems.
I wonder if that 2x18A @ 12V is enough.....the silly PSU has 50A @ 5V....I wonder if it's the cause of all your strange troubles.
I think it will only do about 24A @ 12V in total, if it can do it at all, the thing only costed 40 bucks at the time.

Please try something descend in your system, like the Corsair VX550 better.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #68 on: 15-June-09, 15:23:01 »

it happens with no usb slots filed. next theory please.

Using any of the 1.9 bios versions, my K9A2CF computer would boot fine with no shutdown loops when I unplugged all usb devices, including the JUSB1 connector that my front media card reader was connected to. This is different than what KRomeleoN says he experienced, unless he has something plugged into JUSB1 and didn't realize it.

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« Reply #69 on: 15-June-09, 20:44:18 »

Try the board barebone, only memory, ps/2 keyboard, cpu, videocard and powersupply.
Does the same still happen?

Come to think of it, that RaidMax Volcano is a 3 years old PSU, splitrail and not very powerfull, certainly not designed to handle modern systems.
I wonder if that 2x18A @ 12V is enough.....the silly PSU has 50A @ 5V....I wonder if it's the cause of all your strange troubles.
I think it will only do about 24A @ 12V in total, if it can do it at all, the thing only costed 40 bucks at the time.

Please try something descend in your system, like the Corsair VX550 better.


are you saying that with every bios up to 1.8 my psu was fine, but then 1.9 became too power hungry for my psu?  :noidea:


I dont think so bro.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #70 on: 16-June-09, 04:29:25 »

If everything was fine with 1.8, go back to it.
Sorry, but I fail to understand your problem anymore.
Why flash at all when 1.8 worked?
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« Reply #71 on: 16-June-09, 05:08:38 »

He wants to install new Phenom, not supported by 1.8 bios... maybe, some  time in the future...  X-((
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« Reply #72 on: 16-June-09, 05:53:34 »

If everything was fine with 1.8, go back to it.
Sorry, but I fail to understand your problem anymore.
Why flash at all when 1.8 worked?


1.9 also introduced the tlb bug enable/disable in bios (which is cool), but you are right, im just gonna stay with 1.8, im giving up on this issue, thank you everyone for trying to help.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #73 on: 16-June-09, 05:55:20 »

1.9 also introduced the tlb bug enable/disable in bios (which is cool)

Not really as it will not makes difference since you are using Vista.
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« Reply #74 on: 19-June-09, 15:06:33 »

The problem is solved by me, with the new 1.A BIOS.  :worship:

http://msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1333
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« Reply #75 on: 19-June-09, 16:43:37 »

The problem is solved by me, with the new 1.A BIOS.  :worship:

http://msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1333


how do you update the bios without usb legacy support? I have 1.a2 now and i want to update to 1.a. can i do it without a ps2 keyboard?
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #76 on: 19-June-09, 18:00:05 »


how do you update the bios without usb legacy support? I have 1.a2 now and i want to update to 1.a. can i do it without a ps2 keyboard?

Yes you can do it without any keyboard.
Get attached image, then extract the .ISO file and "Burn the image to disk" to some CD/DVD with Nero{Or similar}.


Once done reboot PC and enter in BIOS,
From "Integrated Peripherals" ==> Disable "USB Device Legacy Support" {If that is need to be able machine to boot}
From "Standard CMOS Features" ==> Setup "Halt on" to "No Errors"
From "Advanced BIOS Features" ==> "Boot Sequence", Configure "1st Boot device" your CD/DVD drive{which contain the Disk with burned image above}
Then "SAVE AND EXIT". You can disconnect the keyboard after that if that's necessary.
Machine will boot from CD/DVD and BIOS flash will start automatically and BIOS will be updated to 1.A0[V1.10]
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #77 on: 19-June-09, 21:25:02 »

Yes you can do it without any keyboard.
Get attached image, then extract the .ISO file and "Burn the image to disk" to some CD/DVD with Nero{Or similar}.


Once done reboot PC and enter in BIOS,
From "Integrated Peripherals" ==> Disable "USB Device Legacy Support" {If that is need to be able machine to boot}
From "Standard CMOS Features" ==> Setup "Halt on" to "No Errors"
From "Advanced BIOS Features" ==> "Boot Sequence", Configure "1st Boot device" your CD/DVD drive{which contain the Disk with burned image above}
Then "SAVE AND EXIT". You can disconnect the keyboard after that if that's necessary.
Machine will boot from CD/DVD and BIOS flash will start automatically and BIOS will be updated to 1.A0[V1.10]


1.) Thank you so much for packagin that iso

2.) The iso was successful

3.) 1.A final fixed my issue. I can now boot with usb legacy enabled. It doesnt power cycle before booting.


Thank you msi, thank you svet


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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #78 on: 19-June-09, 22:34:01 »

 Thank you TomBoy1986 & KRomeleoN  for letting us know the good news on your results with the new BIOS.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #79 on: 20-June-09, 07:56:23 »


how do you update the bios without usb legacy support? I have 1.a2 now and i want to update to 1.a. can i do it without a ps2 keyboard?

I had no problem with legacy support. It was enabled. You can show it in the #52. Message.


And thanks for everybody, who helped us!
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #80 on: 23-June-09, 10:23:28 »

Hi, I have the same problem, but with a d-link wireless, I can´t see where is the link of the image you are taking about, I only found the link to the bios update ( http://msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1333 ) witch is not an image, can you give me the link to download it?. THANKS!!
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #81 on: 23-June-09, 10:57:20 »

 Where you see this: 7388v1A.zip on MSI website for the MB, just left click on it and you will go to the download page.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #82 on: 23-June-09, 16:25:17 »

Very so little off: Can't figure out why the original problem arises. Perhaps it is like Bas says, that the keyboard mimics (ReadyBoost) memory.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #83 on: 02-July-09, 23:24:02 »

Hi, I have the same problem, but with a d-link wireless, I can´t see where is the link of the image you are taking about, I only found the link to the bios update ( http://msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1333 ) witch is not an image, can you give me the link to download it?. THANKS!!

I think you have to log in to see the attachment. I had the problem and then figured that I should log in to get it.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #84 on: 27-July-09, 10:18:06 »

Had the same problem as the Starter, just with an usb headset. I used the iso file to update the bios, though i now have the problem, that the 3 usb mouses i own won't work any more. Luckily found a PS2 mouse somewhere... Headset is working though.
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Re: K9A2 CF + BIOS v1.9 + Logitech Force EX
« Reply #85 on: 13-August-09, 16:46:25 »

I had the same problem with 1.90 bios, so i updated to 1A, i just want to know why Bios Version says: v.1.10 instead v.1A?
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« Reply #86 on: 13-August-09, 16:47:48 »

It's the same. 1,10[dec] <==> 1.A[hex]
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« Reply #87 on: 13-August-09, 16:55:02 »

Omg hat was the fastest response i ever had :D
so the first Bios for this board 1.1[Hex] = ? [Dec] (would be?)
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« Reply #88 on: 13-August-09, 17:00:05 »

you mean 1.1 or 1.11?
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« Reply #89 on: 13-August-09, 17:03:09 »

The first Bios posted here:

http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1333

version 1.1 (that is [Hex] right?)
so [Dec] would be?
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« Reply #90 on: 13-August-09, 17:04:04 »

The first Bios posted here:

http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1333

version 1.1 (that is [Hex] right?)
so [Dec] would be?


The same, until 9 there is no difference. Only for over 9 versions
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« Reply #91 on: 13-August-09, 17:08:40 »

Thanks :D
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« Reply #92 on: 13-August-09, 17:26:56 »

Thanks :D

No worries, MSI's Live Update is also confused. :) Typical case:
When 1.10 BIOS version is installed onboard, MSI's Live Update shows that the new BIOS 1.A0 is available and suggest update...  :irre2:
But that's actually the same BIOS version..

They are following that way:

1.0=1.0
1.1=1.1
1.2=1.2
1.3=1.3
1.4=1.4
1.5=1.5
1.6=1.6
1.7=1.7
1.8=1.8
1.9=1.9
1.10=1.A0
1.11=1.B0
1.12=1.C0
1.13=1.D0
1.14=1.E0
1.15=1.F0
1.16=1.G0
1.17=1.H0
1.18=1.I0
1.19=1.J0
1.20=1.K0
1.21=1.L0
1.22=1.M0
1.23=1.N0
1.24=1.O0

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« Reply #93 on: 18-August-09, 21:41:24 »

ok well looks like this is where i need to post.

Installed 1.9 unhooked usb kb and mouse. cant get anywhere near bios to try to load optimized defaults or defaults period. Cleared CMOS and i still cannot get into the pc. I get 3 beeps the reboot. 3 beeps i supposed is standard for this MB or 4 really. But my question is if i cant change the boot oredr or the default setting in the cmos how am i supposed to boot to reinstall the 1.8?

OMG i forgot about my printer. now it booted right up. did yall say 1a0 fixed the legacy thing?
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« Reply #94 on: 19-August-09, 18:32:22 »

Yes, 1A0 Works perfectly.
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