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The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« on: 07-November-10, 07:17:37 »

I don't want to be disappointed with this 890GX model.

This is the third mainboard I bought in my life and this is the best one I got. I like the specs and all its features, and it's a mATX.
One reason I decided to get this thing is because of the current requirements demanded by today's games. And I'm thinking I can play them using this board smoothly considering all its capabilities. So far it's doing good, however I got a little concern about playing games using a standard USB game controller (joypad).

The computer recognizes the USB controller every time I plug it in, loads default drivers in it (Win7) during the initial process 'til it says it's ready to be used.
That's the usual stuff and I got no problem with that. What irks me is I can't use the "recognized" controller. I don't understand why.
I checked to see the controller properties, the settings and all. It's there but I can't calibrate it. It's like "for your eyes only"  :censored::nooo:

Then I suspected it's this motherboard's "bug". I start to blame the motherboard simply because my other OLD motherboard lets me play it (the controller) with no hassles whatsoever. It's not a hardware problem, not an OS problem either. I had Windows 7 and XP installed on that old system and my controller works perfectly fine with it.

Now I badly want this to be fixed. I could be wrong but I need a BIOS update, I guess. :help:  Any help to this LITTLE issue, please? I'm open to your helpful and informative suggestions, etc.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #1 on: 07-November-10, 12:08:10 »

http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=2012

You must install the USB drivers as it's a USB 3.0 board.

I suspect you just moved the board and didn't install drivers ;-))

If installing doesn't help either, then try a fresh windows install, as windows is very picky about changing motherboards.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #2 on: 07-November-10, 14:28:42 »

Thanks Bas.
Yes, sir I already DID ALL OF THAT including re-installing a fresh new copy of the two different Operating Systems on two separate NTFS partitions. I even keep the controller plugged in during the process just to make sure it will really work afterwards. And I have all updated drivers... Didn't help. Same issue. It sucks.  :undecided:
But oh well, maybe that's just how USB 3.0 boards behave on these old USB 2.0 joypad game controllers, I dont know.  :sad:
I'll try to connect another USB game controller that comes along with its own driver CD to see if the motherboard still acts the same way...
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #3 on: 07-November-10, 14:35:33 »

As far as I'm aware, only the two blue USB ports on the back of the board are connected to the USB 3.0 controller, the others are connected to the USB 2.0 controller.

What USB joypad are you talking about anyway?

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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #4 on: 07-November-10, 14:43:37 »

As far as I'm aware, only the two blue USB ports on the back of the board are connected to the USB 3.0 controller, the others are connected to the USB 2.0 controller.

What USB joypad are you talking about anyway?



It's just a standard gamepad with an unknown brand (it doesn't come with a driver of its own unlike other known brands e.g Microsoft or Logitech). But it works well with my old mainboards using default drivers. It's confusing why I can't use it in this new board. :(
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #5 on: 07-November-10, 14:50:23 »

Hope I can find somebody in here who has the same mainboard with this same issue.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #6 on: 07-November-10, 14:51:24 »

The mainboard has nothing to do with how Windows is installing drivers for your joypad.

Does the joypad work with your games correctly?
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #7 on: 07-November-10, 14:57:55 »

Go to Start > Devices & Printers

Your USB joypad should be listed there. What does Windows 7 identify it as?

Right-click it, select 'Game controller settings', then click Properties.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #8 on: 07-November-10, 14:58:10 »

Do other USB device have the same problems?
If not, then maybe the pad is broken?
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #9 on: 07-November-10, 15:07:45 »

Hi again

@Stu: it perfectly works with the games I'm playing (but on another PC with an old slow mobo).
Yes I've been there, done that. It's normally listed as a game controller but I can't calibrate the buttons which means I can't use it.

@Bas: I have no problems with other USB devices except this game controller alone. No it isn't broken. I have another system unit running and it works great there on Windows XP and 7. It's actually my only game controller for the PC.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #10 on: 07-November-10, 15:35:44 »

So if you do as I stated, and click Properties, a box doesn't open which shows you which button is being pressed on the joypad?
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #11 on: 07-November-10, 17:09:12 »

What joypad is it? Obviously Windows 7 understands it incorrectly for something else, installs some similar but no-good drivers, and you can't use it.

From reading my guess would be it is a Belkin of Logitech device, but I'm happily proven wrong.  :smile: Check who made the thing and ask them for better drivers.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #12 on: 08-November-10, 01:56:20 »

So if you do as I stated, and click Properties, a box doesn't open which shows you which button is being pressed on the joypad?

Yes I did that. Fro example in Windows XP, a dialog box OPENED which contained a Settings tab and a Test tab. In the Test tab, you can see the AXES and the BUTTONS and the POV. These things are supposed to move/react whenever I touch something (ie buttons, stick, etc) on the controller but they don't. It's useless.
In my other motherboard with both the same OS, I can do this without ANY problems at all. It's just this 890GXM-G65 motherboard I guess.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #13 on: 08-November-10, 02:09:49 »

What joypad is it? Obviously Windows 7 understands it incorrectly for something else, installs some similar but no-good drivers, and you can't use it.

From reading my guess would be it is a Belkin of Logitech device, but I'm happily proven wrong.  :smile:


I have Windows 7 and Win XP SP3 on another PC with an old Firefox motherboard. The said generic USB game controller works fine there. It's brandless, it looks the same as a PS3 console controller. Obviously it's a cheap make.


Check who made the thing and ask them for better drivers.


I would've done that already if I only knew who the manufacturer was but unfortunately I don't. I just rely on the default drivers installed by the OS, which works for me on the other mainboard.
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« Reply #14 on: 08-November-10, 02:14:21 »

Okey, I understand your frustration better now. There is an FCC no. somewhere on almost every device. That is usually searchable. Takes some time, but.

This may not be it, but I have to ask: With the new motherboard, did you do a fresh installation of Windows?
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« Reply #15 on: 08-November-10, 05:58:05 »

With the new motherboard, did you do a fresh installation of Windows?

http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=2012

You must install the USB drivers as it's a USB 3.0 board.

I suspect you just moved the board and didn't install drivers ;-))

If installing doesn't help either, then try a fresh windows install, as windows is very picky about changing motherboards.
Thanks Bas.
Yes, sir I already DID ALL OF THAT including re-installing a fresh new copy of the two different Operating Systems on two separate NTFS partitions. I even keep the controller plugged in during the process just to make sure it will really work afterwards. And I have all updated drivers... Didn't help. Same issue. It sucks.  :undecided:
But oh well, maybe that's just how USB 3.0 boards behave on these old USB 2.0 joypad game controllers, I dont know.  :sad:
I'll try to connect another USB game controller that comes along with its own driver CD to see if the motherboard still acts the same way...
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #16 on: 08-November-10, 06:09:14 »

Even the Help and Support Center is unable to solve it. The device is not at fault. It works fine on another computer. The said USB game controller isn't just compatible with this MSi 890GXM-G65 motherboard.

So I guess the last resort would either be a new BIOS update or I'd simply buy a Microsoft XboX360 controller for Windows or I might trade this motherboard for a Gigabyte instead.  :undecided:
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #17 on: 08-November-10, 14:05:21 »

Welcome to the world of electronics.
It's not uncommon things won't work on one system and fail on the other.
All these connectors work with timings, it could well be your pad is critical.
As you stated, everything else works fine, expect the pad.

So there must be some compatibility between the board or Windows and the pad.

For all we know it could also be a problem with the pad and W7, have you tried XP on that machine, just to see if it happens there too?
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« Reply #18 on: 08-November-10, 16:12:51 »

USB things are not to be connected during the Windows installation! Only when Windows is well up and running do you attach it. Please try again.
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« Reply #19 on: 08-November-10, 23:48:29 »

Welcome to the world of electronics.
It's not uncommon things won't work on one system and fail on the other.
All these connectors work with timings, it could well be your pad is critical.
As you stated, everything else works fine, expect the pad.

So there must be some compatibility between the board or Windows and the pad.

 :biggthumbsup: I agree with you on this, but IMO it's more of like between the board and the pad due to the fact that Windows (XP and 7) on another board presents no problem with the device.


For all we know it could also be a problem with the pad and W7, have you tried XP on that machine, just to see if it happens there too?

Yes as I've said in the previous posts, I've tried XP and still it happens. It's quite funny to think this mainboard is labeled as a "Gaming Series" yet it doesn't allow me to use an ordinary gaming controller.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #20 on: 08-November-10, 23:56:57 »

"even keep the controller plugged in during the process just to make sure it will really work afterwards" That is not correct, sorry.
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« Reply #21 on: 09-November-10, 00:02:27 »

USB things are not to be connected during the Windows installation! Only when Windows is well up and running do you attach it.

I only did that once just to check if the pad can be usable after the Windows installation, kind of like an experiment.
But of course I know the right/proper Windows installation procedure ;D

Please try again.

I installed Windows XP/7 with and without plugging the pad, like an experiment. They yield the same results = Though recognized by the OS, STILL the pad is UNUSABLE. I stand corrected but I'm positive it's gotta be the motherboard's fault. :smiley:

I did the EXACT same experiment with a ASUS, Gigabyte, and Emaxx mainboards. The pad works there it's perfectly usable the way it should be. No problem presented.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #22 on: 09-November-10, 00:04:55 »

"even keep the controller plugged in during the process just to make sure it will really work afterwards" That is not correct, sorry.

Yes I know but it was only an experiment. Trial and error kind of.
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #23 on: 09-November-10, 17:20:08 »

Did you connect the pad to JUSB 1~4? As those are 2.0, the others are USB3.0

Also, are those 8 wire connected? Some cases use 9 wires and it gives troubles.

If you did; have you tried the pad via an USB 1.x/2.x hub?


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« Reply #24 on: 12-November-10, 21:11:35 »

First, sorry for the late reply guys, been preoccupied with work lately.

have you tried the pad via an USB 1.x/2.x hub?

Yes, Bas and thanks. This method gets the pad working :biggthumbsup:
The motherboard's ass is saved from a trade.

I'll be back in this thread for future issues I might find someday...
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Re: The 890GXM-G65 motherboard
« Reply #25 on: 12-November-10, 21:23:02 »

Very good :woohoo: :woohoo:
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