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[Styxy]

Since about 2 hours ago. reformatted it several times to try get it to work but no luck.

[Svet]

Since about 2 hours ago. reformatted it several times to try get it to work but no luck.

after the last sucessfull boot from the usb key, have you flashed the bios?
or if you flashed your bios with the USB key before, have you tried to boot from the same usb key after that?

[Styxy]

It just doesn't boot from it anymore. I give up. I have had enough of this constant flashing to try and get the bios to work. Back to 1.1 now through live update and the board is going back next week. Had no response from MSI Support all day so for all I know no one is working on the issue because so few people have it. Thanks for the help but I've had enough.

[Svet]

It just doesn't boot from it anymore. I give up. I have had enough of this constant flashing to try and get the bios to work. Back to 1.1 now through live update and the board is going back next week. Had no response from MSI Support all day so for all I know no one is working on the issue because so few people have it. Thanks for the help but I've had enough.

Flash back to the BIOS version which you was able to boot from the USB key.
Then try again to boot from the USB stick to flash to 1.86+ME

[Styxy]

I did. Just skips past it and straight onto windows still. Little _ flashings in top left for a few seconds. I have even unplugged every other harddrive etc and it just said something about no bootable device. This penstick was working fine earlier so really haven't got a clue but I really can't be bothered anymore. I'll just stick to 1.1 until I get another board.

[Svet]

I did. Just skips past it and straight onto windows still. Little _ flashings in top left for a few seconds. I have even unplugged every other harddrive etc and it just said something about no bootable device. This penstick was working fine earlier so really haven't got a clue but I really can't be bothered anymore. I'll just stick to 1.1 until I get another board.

Try >>Clear CMOS Guide<< with power cord removed and re-test.
Else try create a bootable USB stick by following this guide:
http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm
Then try to boot from the stick

[Styxy]

Ok I got it to boot using that method. Installed the BIOS AND The Firmware fine. Shutdown system, reset cmos, unplugged machine, bled capacitors using power button, reset cmos again to be sure. Plugged back in, restarted, went to bios, pressed f10, pressed enter. AND BOOM. It crashed again. I guess there will be no update over the weekend because they won't pay someone to fix an issue for 10-15 people out of all the sales so I am now 100% returning it.

[klaasvaag]

Hi i will try the new bios version in combination with MSI HQ flash tomorrow. First finishing a round (with 1 ram stick) of memtest86+ ,after 4 hours still no errors (with 2 sticks i had errors after 1.5 hours).

If this is okay ill flash it using this one (good) stick and see if that makes any difference.

Cheers and appreciate the feed-back. Hope you have weekend also 

[klaasvaag]

Hmm i read stories that people had simular symtoms and ended up with a dual memory kit that wasn't okay. after replacing they could save again.... also new bios.

Hmm all should check their memory stability to be sure i recon....

[Styxy]

I very much doubt it others on OCUK have same ram and mobo with no problems.

[Svet]

Well I tried that and some blue writing just kept typing on screen super fast and just kept spamming it :/

Because the image which you used from this megaupload com link,
was not compatible with the Tool and update was not performed and it bypassed quickly to the last stage.

This 3th party image is not compatible with the Tool.

Adjusted and compatible version with the Tool:
https://forum-en.msi.com/moderator/pics/186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar
Will also flash to 186 + ME at once
BIOS Info: V1.8B6 , 01/13/2011
For:
-> P67A-GD65
-> P67A-GD55
-> P67A-GD53

Forgot to mention that this image version mention above is for >>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< only.
/* It will not works for anything else */

Well I don't really have a clue what you just said.

I'm saying that if you use this image [186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar] with regular procedures/guides like:
http://www.bay-wolf.com/usbmemstick.htm
E.g., if you follow this steps:

Yes, I think Brice speak english.

The Bat is automatically execute during the flash.

You just have to put all files on usb key bootable, after re-boot. On the DOS screen tape ''7681v186" and wait until you see back C: don't turn off before.

A second person try it, but it seems doesn't work.

Brice say us, it's works in some country ???

if you use the 186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar it will return an error and nothing will hapend.
E.g. nothing will be updated.
E.g. the 186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar is only for >>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<

[Styxy]

Ye I understood afterwards. But as I said it didn't work anyway even with updated firmware.

[Svet]

I would suggest to everybody who has this "non saving issue",
to read >>Posting Guide<< and to provide full system specifications.
This will help issue to be isolated and resolved ASAP

[Froggy Gremlin]

I would suggest to everybody who has this "non saving issue",
to read >>Posting Guide<< and to provide full system specifications.
This will help issue to be isolated and resolved ASAP

Svet is 100% spot on. It can reveal a common denominator or other important factor. Sadly, in another thread, a poster told me it was 'irrelevent' to list anything other than board, CPU, & RAM. Please, take the time to list your complete component list. Even the +12V amps on the PSU's rail(s) can be important.

[DerBert]

Well, then let's start listing the systems.

Here's mine:

Board: MSI P67A-GD65 2.0 Bios 1.4
CPU: i5-2500K
RAM: 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL running at 1333 9 9 9 25 2T 1.5V
GPU: Gigabyte ATI Radeon 5850
PSU: Seasonic X-460 (+12V: 38A)
SSD: Intel X25-M G2 80GB
HDD: Samsung HD204UI 2TB

The memory passed 5 hours of prime's torture test on 1600 9 9 9 25 2T 1.5V without problems.

[Styxy]

I have already told support my system. It is irrelevant nothing apart from cpu and same amount of ram is same in DerBerts system. Board is going back on Tuesday and I am going to another brand. And I am also guessing now it is weekend I won't see a response to my support ticket until monday.

[Froggy Gremlin]

I have already told support my system. It is irrelevant nothing apart from cpu and same amount of ram is same in DerBerts system.

Styxy, you are missing some of the point. This is a user to user forum. As such, it 'is' relevent. The forum is not official MSI Tech Support, & sometimes the forum members can spot what the trouble may be by components in a system. It may also help other users & forum visitors to get an idea of what others are using & what components work & don't work. Jack, Svet, Henry, Mark, & the other forum Admins & Mods put a lot of free time & effort to help everyone resolve their problems & questions. No one is paid here, all volunteer. Cut the forum some slack. Have a nice day & good luck with Brand X!    

[klaasvaag]

Hi memtest revealed one broken ram stick. Used just the one that is okay and flashed the bios to the newest evrsion using:

the 186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar in combination with >>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< (runned USB flasher and pointed directly to the beta bios file and created the usb stick.

Bios upgrade went fine, cl cmos like instructed and still no save (sadly).

MSI p67a-GD65
Intel 2600k
2*4gb corsair vengeance CM289X3M2A1600c8  stock settings.
Mugen 2 rev. B cooler

system fans 1 tm 3 occupied and cpu fan is occupied.

Volatages:(according to newest bios reading)

CPU: 1.152v
CPU i/o: 1.048v
DRAM: 1.472 V
SA: 0.928v

[Svet]

Hi memtest revealed one broken ram stick. Used just the one that is okay and flashed the bios to the newest evrsion using:

the 186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar in combination with >>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< (runned USB flasher and pointed directly to the beta bios file and created the usb stick.

Bios upgrade went fine, cl cmos like instructed and still no save (sadly).

MSI p67a-GD65
Intel 2600k
2*4gb corsair vengeance CM289X3M2A1600c8  stock settings.
Mugen 2 rev. B cooler

system fans 1 tm 3 occupied and cpu fan is occupied.

Volatages:(according to newest bios reading)

CPU: 1.152v
CPU i/o: 1.048v
DRAM: 1.472 V
SA: 0.928v

Hi memtest revealed one broken ram stick. Used just the one that is okay and flashed the bios to the newest evrsion using:

the 186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar in combination with >>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<< (runned USB flasher and pointed directly to the beta bios file and created the usb stick.

Bios upgrade went fine, cl cmos like instructed and still no save (sadly).

Nope, by that way, you update to BIOS 1.86 only.
Without ME.
Use regular Mode 1 instead, [Point to .zip, .rar]
and give to the Tool when asked ==> 186_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar
then proceed as usual.
This will flash 1.86 + ME

[klaasvaag]

okay will do and report back.

another strange thing and maybe you can explain, when using v.1.4 of the bios i get errors on one of the memory stick after 5 min. When i flash to newer version this seems to be gone and no errors (have to test further) in memtest occur.
Is the 1.4 version not stable for some memory and is this causing the errors?

Problem now is what do i believe? is the bios not good or my memory? or both. Hard to test like this.

[Svet]

another strange thing and maybe you can explain, when using v.1.4 of the bios i get errors on one of the memory stick after 5 min. When i flash to newer version this seems to be gone and no errors (have to test further) in memtest occur.
Is the 1.4 version not stable for some memory and is this causing the errors?

Yes, probably. since 1.5 and above:
* - Improved memory compatibility.

[klaasvaag]

can i reliable test my memory with this new bios and know for sure that if errors occur the memory is bad?

I need to know this to make sure that i have no memory issues.

[Svet]

yes, why not?
you may have some bad stick too..
so extra checks is always welcome

[klaasvaag]

appreciate the quick responses here. are there succes stories with this new firmware + ME ?

[klaasvaag]

okay pass 2 and i get errors in memtest 4.2 beta and bios E7681IMS.186 (without ME). Can i now be absolutely clear that one (or both) sticks are not okay? I have done the test with 2 sticks.

[Svet]

Best test it with Orthos: http://sp2004.fre3.com/beta/orthos_exe_20060420.cab
Select priority 9,
Select "Large, in-places FFT's",
Then click on "Start" and leave it to test for several hours
See if your machine can survive or if errors will be reported

[brattak]

i have the problem ....my sistem
p67a gd65
i7 2600k
2x2 gskill pis 2200
ssd intel 80 g2
msi gtx 570
lc power legion x2 1000 watt
windows 7 64

now i tested all bios ufficial or beta

i have this oc
memory 1866
cpu 4000
vcore 1.21
vram 1.55

is stable whit prime linx ecc. ecc.

now if i restart the pc ok dont have problem

if i turn off and after turn on the pc have fake boot .....press f1 go in bios and the cpu is 13.5 giga ram is 8890 ........i click my profile overclock save exit and go.......

[Svet]

@brattak
do not hijack this topic with own different problems.

[klaasvaag]

okay i tried the flash +ME and still freezes up 

[Svet]

Yeah, it doesn't works for others who tried it too.
So be patient and wait for another solution. [msi are looking into]

[brattak]

the problem is egual dont save the oc and reset to default its egual the problem and have very much people whit this problem ...

[brattak]

i solved
unplug the power
click the reset pulsant for 30 second
resttart enter in bios and click f6 after ok f10 ok restart
flash the bios 186 full
restart enter in bios and select your setting
save and exit
now work   

[BillyPT]

Edited!!!

[klaasvaag]

Is this for real?

press reset button for 30 sec?

[Jack]

It seems to have worked for him.  Try it and see.  Nothing to loose here, really.

[klaasvaag]

question is from which bios version he did the 186 full flash.

[Jack]

Probably 1.4, otherwise he would not have been able to OC his system.  He started this topic.

[Astennu]

I also have this issue.

So far now bios worked well.
Only the 1.4 will do something of a oc. But only if i exit with the exit in the top right. If i use the settings menu with 1.4 it will still lock up.

I also have other strange stability issues. Memtest runs fine with no errors. But sometimes when my pc is folding at 50% load on the CPU it will just lockup or reboot. This all on default speeds 186 bios.

I think i need to RMA this board. The ram is able to do more then 1400 MHz on CL7 and these volts i'm running stock 1333 CL8. This ram worked perfectly for more then 2 year and memory test seems to agree.

Rest of the config:
Intel 2600K
2x2gb TakeMS 1333 MHz CL8 1.5v
P67 GD65
Sapphire HD6970
Coolermaster M1000 PSU.
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB.
G19 Keyboard + Revolution mouse
Dell 3008 with cardreader and USB hub connected.

Disconnecting all USB devices and using only a PS2 keyboard did not help. I dont know what to do anymore.
I'm mostly concerned with the random reboots and lockups at stock speeds.

[klaasvaag]

tried going back tot 1.1 bios (all the otyher ones i cannot do F6 and then F10 because the systems locks up). Only 1.1 allows me to use F6 and then F10. Did this, reflashed to 186 full..... still freezes up.

i'm getting frustrated ......

[brattak]

sorry but for me now work only the bios 186

[DrSteve]

Sorry, but what does the ME part of this flash do?

[klaasvaag]

An Intel firmware upgrade of something....

[DerBert]

I just tried bios 1.8b6 including the ME update, but sadly no change at all. It freezes on save.

[Froggy Gremlin]

I just tried bios 1.8b6 including the ME update, but sadly no change at all. It freezes on save.

DerBert, noticed in another post of yours you did not have a mouse connected. Do you have now? Is it one of the ones that is suspect as being non compatible (Razer Deathadder)? Some problems have been traced to CPU socket pins being bent, or uneven CPU cooler pressure being applied causing poor CPU pad to pin contact. 

[Jack]

tried going back tot 1.1 bios (all the otyher ones i cannot do F6 and then F10 because the systems locks up). Only 1.1 allows me to use F6 and then F10. Did this, reflashed to 186 full..... still freezes up.

klaasvaag, just for clarification:  Most other users with this issue have a board that came with BIOS v1.4 and get the save/freeze problem whenever they flash to a newer version than that.  It seems that your board came with v1.1 and I take it from your reply that even if you would flash to v1.4 you'll still end up with the freeze problem.  Is that correct? Because if that is correct, than it seems that this problem is after all not related to any specific version but rather looks like this: "Flashing to any other BIOS Version than the factory version will cause a freeze/system lock-up when trying to save settings".

[DerBert]

@HU16E: That was just once to rule out all the usual possibilities. Since it didn't make a difference I reconnected my Logitech M705, which is working fine in the bios.
Concerning the pins and uneven pressure I'm certain that I can rule out these factors. I've been building systems for over 15 years now and I've always inserted the CPU with the utmost caution - especially in this case since it's been a new architecture on a new socket for me. The cooler is a Noctua C12P SE14, which is fastened by screws on mounting bars - you would have to mount it intentionally wrong for the contact to be uneven. Apart from that the system passes 5 hours of prime's torture test on priority 10, does 2 passes of memtest+86 and is running win7 x64 since last tuesday without a single problem. So I'm pretty sure the contact and the pins are fine.
Appreciate the help though!

[DerBert]

@Jack: If I follow the steps brattak used to flash 1.8b6 +ME and clear the CMOS on 1.4 before doing any flashing (1.4 is running fine and able to save at this moment), start the system, enter the bios, hit F6, affirm loading the optimized defaults, then hit F10 and affirm that, the system freezes. And my board came with bios 1.4 installed - so the problem is not limited to everything but the bios the board shipped with. That would have been to easy.
After a reset I entered the bios, changed my settings and was able to save again. It seems that it was the same problem as on all the other bioses, but unlike on them a single reset got rid of the problem. I tried saving on other bioses a few times before going back to 1.4, so saving after the second boot is - sadly - also not the solution.

[Jack]

And my board came with bios 1.4 installed - so the problem is not limited to everything but the bios the board shipped with.

You board came with BIOS v1.4 installed, correct?  BIOS v1.4 allows you to save your settings, correct?  Flashing any other version than v1.4 will result in a freeze problem, correct?  So, in your particular case, how is "the problem is not limited to everything but the bios the board shipped with"?

[brattak]

my motherboard when i buy have the bios 1.4
i flash in order
bios 174 in dos (only the bios not ME) save ok but if reboot the sistem ok if turn off and turn on failed load primari bios
185 (only the bios not ME) save ok but if reboot the sistem ok if turn off and turn on failed load primari bios
170 (full bios and ME) save ok but if reboot the sistem ok if turn off and turn on failed load primari bios
when i go after turn on in the bios the frequency cpu is 13.5 giga and ram 8896 (voltage is ok)
186 (full bios and ME) work the motherboard work fine

sorry this is my help for the people 

[klaasvaag]

Hi, don't get me wrong. 1.1 is the only one i can use F6 (load setup defaults) and then hit F10 (save en reboot).

If i use this in the 1.2 , 3 and 4 it freezes the computer.

I CAN save in 1.4 the nor mal way in the save and exit menu.

I have taken out my board and made a test setup. Replaced my Mugen 2 rev. B by the stock cooler, checked the processor all seems okay. It can be entered just one way. Though the lever is kind a heavy when locking (but i think this is normal). Now trying to flash in this setup from 1.4 to 1.86b + Me