Close

Register Now!

To Get More Info and Daily Reward.

Please login or register.
Pages: 1 ... 6 7 [8] 9 10   Go Down

Author Topic: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save  (Read 223909 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Astennu

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #350 on: 27-January-11, 08:53:41 »

Yes, you should update it.
As Ruudt already explained as well:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=144484.msg1080546#msg1080546


Thanks for the reply but that post does not say what the update changes. It was posted as a possible solution for the save issue. But i dont have that issue. So i'm wondering what could be gained by updating. Else it might be a extra risk. Every flash has a risk of going wrong. even if its small there still is a risk.
Logged

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #351 on: 27-January-11, 09:01:22 »

Thanks for the reply but that post does not say what the update changes. It was posted as a possible solution for the save issue. But i dont have that issue. So i'm wondering what could be gained by updating. Else it might be a extra risk. Every flash has a risk of going wrong. even if its small there still is a risk.

The new BIOSes above 1.6 [e.g. 1.7 and any later] may not works property if this update is not applied.
It's similar like in notebooks, EC-FW update and BIOS Update.
There is relation ship between the EC-FW and the BIOS,
the same is here too,
there is relation ship between Intel's ME and the BIOS.
Each Intel's ME version cover the specified BIOS-es version region/range.
ME updates is not always required,
but when its required and vendor say such they should be applied in all cases.
Since Intel & MSI provide such it should be applied in all cases.
[Older BIOSes can works with newest/latest Intel's ME,
but newer BIOSes requires latest Intel's ME],
In short if the ME isn't updated,
the newest BIOSes will not works properly or with side effects.
The Intel's ME update is not optional, it should be applied in all cases.
Logged

DaLoona

  • MSIHQ Red Rockets Team Member
  • MAJOR
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1227
  • Certified nutcase since 1974
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #352 on: 27-January-11, 09:06:45 »


And with a little checking, you would know that some of the 2600k's are multi limited at 52. Check the net!

Thought it was a board problem and not a cpu one  :think:.
Some manufacturers are even lower,  they wont let you multi beyond 47/48 and some let you go to 75 or higher, I believe, according to this that is:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/p67-motherboard-roundup-lga-1155-sandy-bridge,2837-29.html

 :hat tip:
Logged
MSI X470 Gaming Pro//R7 2700X//Noctua NH-D15 
16GB Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 @3200Mhz, 14-14-14-28-42, 1T, 1.32V
GigaByte Windforce GTX 1060 OC, 6GB @ 1700 - 9208Mhz
Adata Ultimate SU800, 256GB SSD, OS//Samsung EVO 850, 500GB, storage
Be Quiet Darkpower Pro 11, 850W//Be Quiet Dark Base 700
HP x23LED @1920x1080//Windows 10 x64
Razer Deathadder Chroma//CM Quickfire XTi

Astennu

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 28
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #353 on: 27-January-11, 09:11:48 »

The new BIOSes above 1.6 [e.g. 1.7 and any later] may not works property if this update is not applied.
It's similar like in notebooks, EC-FW update and BIOS Update.
There is relation ship between the EC-FW and the BIOS,
the same is here too,
there is relation ship between Intel's ME and the BIOS.
Each Intel's ME version cover the specified BIOS-es version region/range.
ME updates is not always required,
but when its required and vendor say such they should be applied in all cases.
Since Intel & MSI provide such it should be applied in all cases.
[Older BIOSes can works with newest/latest Intel's ME,
but newer BIOSes requires latest Intel's ME],
In short if the ME isn't updated,
the newest BIOSes will not works properly or with side effects.
The Intel's ME update is not optional, it should be applied in all cases.


Thanks. This was the answer is was looking for! i will update mine tonight :) (including 18b10)
Logged

wrevilo

  • CORPORAL
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #354 on: 27-January-11, 09:57:29 »

I'm running 1.8b7 and IME 7.0.3.1184 without any saving issues so far.  Only thing is that CPU speed seems to be reported as 6.1Ghz in the OC section of the BIOS

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=19691&ProdId=3273&lang=eng
Logged
I MSI P67A-GD65 (B3) BIOS 4.3 I Intel i5 2500K I 8Gb Samsung I
I Corsair F3 60Gb I AMD 6850 I Dell SP2208WFP I Windows 8 Pro x64 I
I Current Speed: 4.5Ghz I RAM 1866Mhz @ 9-9-9-27 1T I

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #355 on: 27-January-11, 10:07:14 »

When you prepared the stick,
after that have you booted from USB to flash the BIOS.
Have you done it?
If yes:
Did you pickup Option N2: "Proceed with Update"
and not Option N3: "Flash back to prevision BIOS" ? by accident/error?

And did you see the flashing process?
Also what was your USB drive letter when you prepare the stick within windows?


yes I did N2, but when it was finished (bios + IME) u get a option to reboot or not, I'd choose the second and just turn off the mobo with the power button.
I thought I did a clearcmos, but somehow I didn't show the screen it was cleared "press F1 to run setup, or F2 to load default and continue"

Drive letter in windows was I:\

It can also be that I used the wrong usb stick, cause I made a new usb stick for flashing in DOS and one with msi flash tool.Think that was the problem and used the wrong usbstick :bonk:

I now have latest IME(1164) flashed with 1.8b7.


Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #356 on: 27-January-11, 10:35:58 »

yes I did N2, but when it was finished (bios + IME) u get a option to reboot or not, I'd choose the second and just turn off the mobo with the power button.
I thought I did a clearcmos, but somehow I didn't show the screen it was cleared "press F1 to run setup, or F2 to load default and continue"

Drive letter in windows was I:\

It can also be that I used the wrong usb stick, cause I made a new usb stick for flashing in DOS and one with msi flash tool.Think that was the problem and used the wrong usbstick :bonk:

I now have latest IME(1164) flashed with 1.8b7.

Quote
yes I did N2, but when it was finished (bios + IME) u get a option to reboot or not, I'd choose the second and just turn off the mobo with the power button.

Are you talking when you used Mode 2, or BIOS+ME?[if yes which one, and is it the one that you can't flash or?]
Because you tell that you used Mode2 with single file, now you are telling different [bios+ime]?
which one you flashed or cannot flash? :bonk:

Quote
u get a option to reboot or not, I'd choose the second and just turn off the mobo with the power button.

You didn't answer have you seen the flashing process?
Also clarify for which case you're talking exactly.


Quote
Drive letter in windows was I:\

Ok, i've repeated your steps and can't find any issue
Are you running 32bit or 64bit OS?


Quote
I thought I did a clearcmos, but somehow I didn't show the screen it was cleared "press F1 to run setup, or F2 to load default and continue"

looks like you forgot to remove the power cord from the PSU 1st,
e.g. you've done nothing.[clear cmos has no effect]


Quote
It can also be that I used the wrong usb stick, cause I made a new usb stick for flashing in DOS and one with msi flash tool.Think that was the problem and used the wrong usbstick :bonk:

mm how's that? what do you mean? you prepared something, but then boot from something else?
Logged

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #357 on: 27-January-11, 12:06:05 »

U also driving me nuts now...

Seems like on both sticks I have 1.8b6 (see screen)1 of them I flashed it.


left with the msi usb flash tool, right with bootable usb

Question; If u use the msi flash tool and choose another biosfile or zip, will it overwrite the previous biosfile?

If u don't clearcmos, will it not see the right bios?
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #358 on: 27-January-11, 12:12:42 »

Are you talking when you used Mode 2, or BIOS+ME?[if yes which one, and is it the one that you can't flash or?]
Because you tell that you used Mode2 with single file, now you are telling different [bios+ime]?
which one you flashed or cannot flash? :bonk:
both were fine, first with IME, but I'd had the save bug, after that I flashed with mode 2.
Quote
You didn't answer have you seen the flashing process?
Also clarify for which case you're talking exactly.[/color]
I have seen the flashing
Quote
Ok, i've repeated your steps and can't find any issue
Are you running 32bit or 64bit OS?

64bit

Quote
mm how's that? what do you mean? you prepared something, but then boot from something else?
kind of

Sorry for it
Earlier I'd also flash 1.8b7, but when I look the bios version I saw 1.4.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=4719618&postcount=52
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #359 on: 27-January-11, 12:24:33 »

both were fine, first with IME, but I'd had the save bug, after that I flashed with mode 2.I have seen the flashing64bit
kind of

oks


U also driving me nuts now...

Seems like on both sticks I have 1.8b6 (see screen)1 of them I flashed it.


left with the msi usb flash tool, right with bootable usb

Question; If u use the msi flash tool and choose another biosfile or zip, will it overwrite the previous biosfile?

If u don't clearcmos, will it not see the right bios?

Quote
Question; If u use the msi flash tool and choose another biosfile or zip, will it overwrite the previous biosfile?

Yes, it should, it perform clean up 1st, over the target stick, without the mattter of previosn kind of flashing,
but keep the previons backup created, and keep any other user's data which may exist on the stick, not related to flashing


Can you upload your bios.bin file from your K:\ drive for inspection?
Logged

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #360 on: 27-January-11, 12:29:13 »



Also from K:\ [left pane on screenshot] based on screenshot i can tell:

You was running BIOS version: E7681IMS.186 , which tool auto save it with original name,
before perform the flash to....? [upload BIOS.BIN to tell to what], and you was running Memtest x86 before proceed [Memtest execution wasn't ignored]

From right pane on the screenshot i see prepared 186+ME ready for flashing.[probably you flashed 1.186+ME from this stick],
then you flashed to new BIOS[version still unknown], from the second stick where the Tool auto save current running BIOS to: E7681IMS.186,
before flash to the new one. Based on CPU-Z screenshot seems version 1.87,
Looks like to me that you pointed[give/load] the Tool with E7681IMS.187 instead of E7681IMS.18A
Logged

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #361 on: 27-January-11, 13:02:54 »



Also from K:\ [left pane on screenshot] based on screenshot i can tell:

You was running BIOS version: E7681IMS.186 , which tool auto save it with original name,
before perform the flash to....? [upload BIOS.BIN to tell to what], and you was running Memtest x86 before proceed [Memtest execution wasn't ignored]

From right pane on the screenshot i see prepared 186+ME ready for flashing.[probably you flashed 1.186+ME from this stick],
then you flashed to new BIOS[version still unknown], from the second stick where the Tool auto save current running BIOS to: E7681IMS.186,
before flash to the new one. Based on CPU-Z screenshot seems version 1.87,
Looks like to me that you pointed[give/load] the Tool with E7681IMS.187 instead of E7681IMS.18A


Also the right panel, Drive I:\
this isn't prepared by the Tool, but manually with MSI's files inside.

And seems the ME updater give you an error..
open the ERROR.TXT from the stick to found more about it.
Is it?
"Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface : Cannot locate ME device driver"
Or not supported OS[if you try to run it under windows]
Logged

Mike

  • aka Frankenputer
  • GENERAL OF THE ARMY
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 9815
  • Virginia, USA
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #362 on: 27-January-11, 13:09:54 »

Kataa, start your own thread.
Logged
#1:
MSI X38 Diamond/Bios 1.5; Core2Duo E8400 3.0Ghz; Thermalright Ultima-90HS/120 fan; 2X1GB DDR3 CorsairTWIN3X2048-1333C9DHXG; PIONEER|DVR-215DBK SATA DVD-DL & Lite-on DVD-ROM PATA; FDD; MSI 260GTX-T2D896; 196.34beta; Seagate 320GB  & WD 500GB SATA HDDs; PC P&C Silencer 750 +3.3V/24A~+5V/30A~+12V/60A; X-FI Xtreme PCIe; Antec P182 Case; XP PRO SP3

#2:
MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum/Bios 3.A; P4 2.8C HT; Thermalright XP-90HS; 2GB DDR400 RAM(2x1GB kit Mushkin HP3200 2-3-2-6); Nec ND-3550A DVD-DL & TDK 52X24X48 CD-RW; FDD; Nvidia GeForce 7800GS; 84.21; Maxtor 200GB & Seagate 200GB PATA HDDs; Enermax 465P VE-FMA +3.3V/35A~+5V/35A~+12V/33A; Audigy 2ZS; XP PRO SP3
Dell 2209WA LCD on a DVI KVM switch

MSI Wind U100

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #363 on: 27-January-11, 13:10:20 »

Ok ,it's clear now, but how to upload bios.bin?

also the error on I: shows Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface : Cannot locate ME device driver


Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #364 on: 27-January-11, 13:12:32 »

Ok ,it's clear now, but how to upload bios.bin?



You can e-mail BIOS.BIN to me, check PM for details.
Else host/upload it somewhere, over the net and give the link to it
Logged

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #365 on: 27-January-11, 13:39:47 »

ok send u the link for the bios.bin
Also 1 thing, I broke memtest with escape (didn't complete the run), after that I just flash it.

I shall flash only bios 1.8b10 with the flash tool and see what happens with the bios version>will wait a moment ;D
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

Glouglou14

  • PRIVATE E-2
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 4
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #366 on: 27-January-11, 14:38:20 »

Here are more images that will:

18A_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar [2 in 1] ==> https://forum-en.msi.com/moderator/pics/svet/18A_ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar
{ This will flash latest BIOS V1.8B10 + Latest Intel's ME 1164 at once }

Can be used for those who didn't flashed their Intel ME yet to the latest version.
Or for those who isn't sure what ME version they has.
E.g. this will flash both of them to the latest version.[BIOS & Intel ME firmwares]
[E7681IMS.18A+ME1164.BIN]
The Image is for MSIHQ Tool only.[It will not works[not compatible] with SOP.doc MSI's instructions]
>>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
It can be done with MSIHQ Tool , by using Mode 1 [Point to BIOS archive file .zip, .rar]
}




ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar
==> https://forum-en.msi.com/moderator/pics/svet/ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar
{
This will flash Intel's ME firmware only to the latest version 1164,
with regardless of BIOS version used.
It can be used for those who don't want to change/flash their BIOS version [or to re-flash the same BIOS version],
but want[its highly recommended for those who isn't done it yet] to flash to the latest Intel's ME 1164 firmware.

The Image is for MSIHQ Tool and also can be used for manual installation with SOP.doc MSI's instructions [by booting from bootable USB key and executing flash.bat]
For extra security and full automatic ==> >>MSI HQ Forum USB flasher<<
It can be done with MSIHQ Tool , by using Mode 1 [Point to BIOS archive file .zip, .rar]
}


About BIOS flashing only to the latest BIOS version [E7681IMS.18A],
Ruudt's  :hat tip: post: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=144484.msg1080605#msg1080605
or
Jack's  :hat tip: post: https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=144655.msg1080800#msg1080800


It can be done with MSIHQ Tool like usual, by using Mode 2 [Point to BIOS file directly], e.g. E7681IMS.18A



Flashed from 1.8b7 to 1.8b10. It Fixed the Save&Exit freeze issue! Thanks a lot!!  :biggthumbsup: :biggthumbsup: I haven't tested OC yet...

However, I still can't update ME...
ERROR.LOG: Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface : Cannot locate ME device driver
Logged
i5 2500K
MSI P67A-GD65
4gb GSkill PC12800 Ripjaws CAS 9
Gigabyte GTX460 1Go
Enermax EcoGreen 620W

flopper

  • PRIVATE E-2
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #367 on: 27-January-11, 14:57:18 »

Beta bios b8.10 broke ssd raid array boot.
OC made the array to fail boot.
beta b8.6 works.
lost 3 days of work with that flash.
backup next time-.
Logged

roki977

  • CORPORAL
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 17
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #368 on: 27-January-11, 14:58:54 »

My 2600k is locked in bios, CPU info but multi is not locked an I can boot with 53x98 with no problems. So I think that there is no 2600k blck limit, maybe on motherboard but not on CPU. Antother thing is how good CPU is and what multi can it use.
Never had f10 problem, flashed new bios today and so far so good.Dindt OCed yet, max on 7 bios was 5290 anything higher wont bot , even 0.1blck, mo mather what voltage.
Logged

Froggy Gremlin

  • GENERAL OF THE ARMY
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11111
  • Master Air OC'er
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #369 on: 27-January-11, 15:57:23 »

Quote
My 2600k is locked in bios
roki977, this post of yours has nothing to do with not saving settings in BIOS & ME related issues. Please start a new thread if you wish to post & discuss off topic subjects. 
Logged
The Last Hoorah! I Had Retired From All This! Can't Believe I'm Really Doing A Platform Test One More Time!  :shocked:

Z97 Gaming 7, 4790k, Zalman CNPS9900Max-R, Corsair AX-850, Corsair Dominator Platinum 2800's, WD 600 SATA III V.Raptor, Lite-On iHAS 424, GTX 680's In SLI, Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty Champion, Win 7 Ultimate 64 Bit    

Life Can Be Very Fulfilling Without Win 8/8.1, SSD's (Exception: Testing PCI-E M.2), RAID, Current AMD GPU's, G.Skill RAM, Hackers, Crackers, & Crypto Mining!

IXOYE

Bruticis

  • STAFF SERGEANT
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 79
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #370 on: 27-January-11, 18:09:19 »

No luck for me either, I get the same error, "Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface : Cannot locate ME device drive".  Also, shouldn't I see Intel ME under my system devices in hardware manager (I don't)?
Logged
P67A-GD65(B3), i5-2500K (Bios 1.80)
8GB Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
CORSAIR AX-850
XFX 6870 HD Black Edition
Crucial M4 64GB SSD
1TB WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
640GB  WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD 24x SATA
Creative X-Fi Fatality (PCI) Sound
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Froggy Gremlin

  • GENERAL OF THE ARMY
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11111
  • Master Air OC'er
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #371 on: 27-January-11, 19:32:04 »

Yes Bruticis, should be right after 'Intel(R) Express Chipset Family'.
Logged
The Last Hoorah! I Had Retired From All This! Can't Believe I'm Really Doing A Platform Test One More Time!  :shocked:

Z97 Gaming 7, 4790k, Zalman CNPS9900Max-R, Corsair AX-850, Corsair Dominator Platinum 2800's, WD 600 SATA III V.Raptor, Lite-On iHAS 424, GTX 680's In SLI, Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty Champion, Win 7 Ultimate 64 Bit    

Life Can Be Very Fulfilling Without Win 8/8.1, SSD's (Exception: Testing PCI-E M.2), RAID, Current AMD GPU's, G.Skill RAM, Hackers, Crackers, & Crypto Mining!

IXOYE

Bruticis

  • STAFF SERGEANT
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 79
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #372 on: 27-January-11, 19:54:05 »

Yes Bruticis, should be right after 'Intel(R) Express Chipset Family'.
That's what I was afraid of.  It seems to be completely missing from my system (and I suspect everyone else that had the save freeze).

EDIT: MSI support asked me to run meup -fwver (which checks the current firmware version of the ME installed) from my boot stick.  When I run it, a long series of ...... appear on the screen, after a few minutes, it returns the same error, "Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface: Cannot locate ME device driver"

It really looks like either my board somehow never had the ME firmware installed on it or it was erased/damaged when I did my very first CMOS clear (see my earlier posts).  I think it's pretty clear this is the root of the problem for this issue.  Now the question is, can it be fixed without an RMA?
Logged
P67A-GD65(B3), i5-2500K (Bios 1.80)
8GB Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
CORSAIR AX-850
XFX 6870 HD Black Edition
Crucial M4 64GB SSD
1TB WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
640GB  WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD 24x SATA
Creative X-Fi Fatality (PCI) Sound
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

PaulWendt

  • CORPORAL
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #373 on: 27-January-11, 20:29:16 »

Yes, for what it's worth, I also am missing this from my Device Manager.  It's probably a defective unit, whether by hardware or software, I do not know.  I wish MSI had been able to figure out what's going on a bit more quickly [in fact, none of them have been able to figure this out; it seems to be the community that had to figure out what's going on].
Logged
P67A-GD65, i7 2600K Sandy Bridge
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
MSI R6970-2PM2D2GD5 Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30

Froggy Gremlin

  • GENERAL OF THE ARMY
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11111
  • Master Air OC'er
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #374 on: 27-January-11, 21:03:41 »

Wonder if it is possible on my theory about the component from Intel being delivered to manufacturing without the firmware. After board assembly & ready to ship, it may not have shown up on the pre-ship tests? It is giving MSI a little benefit of the doubt in all this, but that could explain what has happened. A bad batch of components & the random way the issue is turning up. :undecided: 



Added: As a side note, for some reason, Intel's Management Engine driver 7.0.3.1184 doesn't appear as loaded, but when trying to install it again, it tells it 'has' been loaded. What's up with that? Maybe we need to bark up Intel's tree? :think:
Logged
The Last Hoorah! I Had Retired From All This! Can't Believe I'm Really Doing A Platform Test One More Time!  :shocked:

Z97 Gaming 7, 4790k, Zalman CNPS9900Max-R, Corsair AX-850, Corsair Dominator Platinum 2800's, WD 600 SATA III V.Raptor, Lite-On iHAS 424, GTX 680's In SLI, Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty Champion, Win 7 Ultimate 64 Bit    

Life Can Be Very Fulfilling Without Win 8/8.1, SSD's (Exception: Testing PCI-E M.2), RAID, Current AMD GPU's, G.Skill RAM, Hackers, Crackers, & Crypto Mining!

IXOYE

marilynman

  • PRIVATE E-2
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #375 on: 28-January-11, 02:52:33 »

i have used all bios available, and for my only the 1.4 and the new V1.8B10 works when i save!
I have the same problem for Intel Management Engine Interface in all bios



Logged

pepe123

  • SECOND LIEUTENANT
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 190
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #376 on: 28-January-11, 02:54:24 »

Wonder if it is possible on my theory about the component from Intel being delivered to manufacturing without the firmware. After board assembly & ready to ship, it may not have shown up on the pre-ship tests? It is giving MSI a little benefit of the doubt in all this, but that could explain what has happened. A bad batch of components & the random way the issue is turning up. :undecided: 

I bet this is the problem but it'll be nice if MSI admits that it's a hardware issue not just some bios bug. Free RMA for the affected customers should fix it.
Logged

DerBert

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 22
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #377 on: 28-January-11, 04:39:43 »

Same symptoms here. Checking the installed ME version (via meup -fwver) takes 4:20min and results in: Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface: Cannot locate ME device driver.
If I try to update to 1164 it takes much less time, but the result is the same: Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface: Cannot locate ME device driver.
And last, but not least: my Device Manager knows nothing of an Intel Management Engine.
Logged
P67A-GD65 - i5-2500K - 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 1.5V - Seasonic X-460 (+12V 38A) - Gigabyte 5850 - Intel X25-M G2

wastelcat

  • PRIVATE FIRST CLASS
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #378 on: 28-January-11, 05:49:46 »

Hello,

i can report same error as Marilynman, Bios 1.8B10 flashes well - no save freeze, MEI flashes sucessfully but then in Deviceman its not startable.

Cheers

Wastelcat
Logged

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #379 on: 28-January-11, 07:02:11 »



Also from K:\ [left pane on screenshot] based on screenshot i can tell:

You was running BIOS version: E7681IMS.186 , which tool auto save it with original name,
before perform the flash to....? [upload BIOS.BIN to tell to what], and you was running Memtest x86 before proceed [Memtest execution wasn't ignored]

From right pane on the screenshot i see prepared 186+ME ready for flashing.[probably you flashed 1.186+ME from this stick],
then you flashed to new BIOS[version still unknown], from the second stick where the Tool auto save current running BIOS to: E7681IMS.186,
before flash to the new one. Based on CPU-Z screenshot seems version 1.87,
Looks like to me that you pointed[give/load] the Tool with E7681IMS.187 instead of E7681IMS.18A


Ok, it took a while cause windows was corrupt and needed startup repair.

But the flash went well and the version now is 1.8b10 :) :biggthumbsup:

 :biggthumbsup:



Flashed from 1.8b7 to 1.8b10. It Fixed the Save&Exit freeze issue! Thanks a lot!!  :biggthumbsup: :biggthumbsup: I haven't tested OC yet...


 :biggthumbsup:
Logged

Bruticis

  • STAFF SERGEANT
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 79
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #380 on: 28-January-11, 07:23:24 »

So there appears to be two separate Intel ME scenarios.  Some are able to flash the Intel ME and it shows in device manager but listed as not working properly.  And some of us seem to not have the Intel ME at all, it's not in device manager and we can't flash it.
Logged
P67A-GD65(B3), i5-2500K (Bios 1.80)
8GB Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
CORSAIR AX-850
XFX 6870 HD Black Edition
Crucial M4 64GB SSD
1TB WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
640GB  WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD 24x SATA
Creative X-Fi Fatality (PCI) Sound
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

DerBert

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 22
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #381 on: 28-January-11, 07:31:04 »

Thing is, I'm sure it was listed as not working properly in device manager before, but I can't say when it disappeared. Maybe after the first attempt to update the ME firmware - which went fine - maybe after flashing 1.8B10. Now it doesn't show up in device manager and I can't update the ME firmware. Doesn't make sense.
Logged
P67A-GD65 - i5-2500K - 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 1.5V - Seasonic X-460 (+12V 38A) - Gigabyte 5850 - Intel X25-M G2

Bruticis

  • STAFF SERGEANT
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 79
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #382 on: 28-January-11, 07:35:08 »

Thing is, I'm sure it was listed as not working properly in device manager before, but I can't say when it disappeared. Maybe after the first attempt to update the ME - which went fine - maybe after flashing 1.8B10. Now it doesn't show up in device manager and I can't update the ME firmware. Doesn't make sense.
It never worked for me.  I remember the first thing I did after installing windows was install all the drivers, including the ME from MSI's website (and the driver CD).  I got the system does not meet the requirements error.  I brushed it off at the time as I was having the bios save issue.  So either my board never had it or it somehow become corrupt when I cleared the CMOS for the first time.
Logged
P67A-GD65(B3), i5-2500K (Bios 1.80)
8GB Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
CORSAIR AX-850
XFX 6870 HD Black Edition
Crucial M4 64GB SSD
1TB WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
640GB  WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD 24x SATA
Creative X-Fi Fatality (PCI) Sound
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

wastelcat

  • PRIVATE FIRST CLASS
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #383 on: 28-January-11, 07:45:47 »

Hi again,

to keep things updated:

After next reboot its same here as for DerBert, MEI disappeared from Deviceman.

Now i booted from stick to check with Meup -fwver and itsays: Me1164 flashed but then the errorcode all others have as well.

Cheers

Wastelcat
Logged

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #384 on: 28-January-11, 07:48:10 »

@wastelcat

Can you reflash the ME to the same 1164 without errors?
Logged

wastelcat

  • PRIVATE FIRST CLASS
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #385 on: 28-January-11, 09:04:56 »

@Svet,

will try as soon i can afford shutting down here.

Only have batches todo that including Bios, but this i dont want to risk again, so please tell me if these batches will do the ME Up alone:

meup.bat = CALL F.BAT ME1164.BIN
f.bat = MEUP -ALLOWSV -F %2

TiA

Wastelcat
Logged

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #386 on: 28-January-11, 09:08:22 »

@Svet,

will try as soon i can afford shutting down here.

Only have batches todo that including Bios, but this i dont want to risk again, so please tell me if these batches will do the ME Up alone:

meup.bat = CALL F.BAT ME1164.BIN
f.bat = MEUP -ALLOWSV -F %2

TiA

Wastelcat

To flash/reflash the ME:
MEUP -ALLOWSV -F ME1164.BIN [ENTER]

Or just run "flash.bat" from this archive: https://forum-en.msi.com/moderator/pics/svet/ME1164_MSIHQ_Tool.rar
Logged

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #387 on: 28-January-11, 09:09:12 »

flash went fine with bios v1.8b10 + intel ME 1164, also in windows is ok


first time I flash it with the msi flash tool with IME I got an error;device not found.
Second flash with bat.file method went sucessfully. (but it isn't? see post below)

Also I updated the version in windows
http://us.msi.com/mb/html/P67A-C45_Driver.html
but shows v1144

clickable


@Svet

MSIHQ: Information detected by MSIHQ Tool ver: 1.19e5
MSIHQ: Report generated in vr 28-01-2011 at 16:09:18,97
*********************************
Mainboard:  P67A-GD65 (MS-7681)
PCB Version:  2.0
BIOS Version: V1.8BA (aka Version: V1.8B10)
BIOS Date:  24-1-2011
*********************************

Let's test if the bios is stable for >5ghz :)
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #388 on: 28-January-11, 09:20:08 »

@bullus

Quote
Second flash with bat.file method went sucessfully.

which one? it should makes no difference.

If you use MSI's .bat you will not able to see the error if ME produces the error...
"although the message only stays on screen for half a second"
then will tell that was successfully..., while actually its not.


Quote
{ bla bla bla
.......
.......
.......

}

:END
CLS
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO.
ECHO BIOS & ME update completed.


While if you use MSIHQ Tool,
if ME produce an error you will able to see it


Quote
but shows v1144

sound normal as probably ME update isn't applied.
E.g. you are still using the old version.


Logged

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #389 on: 28-January-11, 09:29:51 »

I'd used the msi bat.file (i:\stick) and saw bios+me updated completed, but didn't saw an error. With msi flash tool I 'd saw the error not find device.

How can I know or see if the IME is updated with the flash, cause in windows u can update it with a driver. There are not the same I guess.
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

DerBert

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 22
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #390 on: 28-January-11, 09:32:15 »

Following bullus's post I tried flashing the ME manually (MEUP -ALLOWSV -F ME1164.BIN, not the batch) from a DOS-USB-Bootstick, but it didn't make a difference. What is odd though, is that the flashing attempt took considerably longer than with the MSI HQ Tool - but the result is the same: Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface : Cannot locate ME device driver.
Logged
P67A-GD65 - i5-2500K - 2x4GB G.Skill Ripjaws F3-12800CL9D-8GBRL 1.5V - Seasonic X-460 (+12V 38A) - Gigabyte 5850 - Intel X25-M G2

wastelcat

  • PRIVATE FIRST CLASS
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 6
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #391 on: 28-January-11, 09:33:20 »

@Svet

first: Thx for the fast advice :)

Just tried to flash and NO it wont - Error 8193 - Intel (R) ME Interface - Cannot load ME device driver


Wastelcat
Logged

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #392 on: 28-January-11, 09:36:34 »

I'd used the msi bat.file (i:\stick) and saw bios+me updated completed, but didn't saw an error. With msi flash tool I 'd saw the error not find device.

How can I know or see if the IME is updated with the flash, cause in windows u can update it with a driver. There are not the same I guess.


Quote
I'd used the msi bat.file (i:\stick) and saw bios+me updated completed, but didn't saw an error. With msi flash tool I 'd saw the error not find device.

that's what i've told you above, if you use msi.bat you will unable to see the error and will tell that's successful while its not.
Look for an error.txt file over the i:\stick that's MEUP log file created.. if an error comes it will recorded there.


Quote
How can I know or see if the IME is updated with the flash

Type manually:
Version check:

MEUP -FWVER [ENTER]

Flash ME:
MEUP -ALLOWSV -F ME1164.BIN [ENTER]
Logged

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #393 on: 28-January-11, 09:37:42 »

All I know is that the save bug is gone and it operates normal again, then we shouldn't be worried?or? JUST kidding  :angel:

edit;

Got an error as u said
Error 8193: Intel (R) ME Interface : Cannot locate ME device driver (i:\stick)
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #394 on: 28-January-11, 09:56:16 »

Oki stop bother with Intel's ME anymore.
According to MSI 1.8A and further is special and will no care about the ME version.
So all that's need to flash to 1.8A and be happy
Logged

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #395 on: 28-January-11, 10:00:19 »

Ok, I flash with MEUP -ALLOWSV -F ME1164.BIN and it succesfully update :D :biggthumbsup:

version before 7.0.1.1141 using MEUP -FWVER
version after 7.0.2.1164

But tried to update it in windows but it still shows 1144 ?
using this file
http://us.msi.com/mb/html/P67A-C45_Driver.html
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

Svet

  • T9246ED, Бивша комета
  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 72837
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #396 on: 28-January-11, 10:07:05 »

i have used all bios available, and for my only the 1.4 and the new V1.8B10 works when i save!
I have the same problem for Intel Management Engine Interface in all bios





Select the ME and removed it,
then reboot machine
Logged

Bruticis

  • STAFF SERGEANT
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 79
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #397 on: 28-January-11, 10:22:30 »

Oki stop bother with Intel's ME anymore.
According to MSI 1.8A and further is special and will no care about the ME version.
So all that's need to flash to 1.8A and be happy

I assume you mean for the ones that have it showing in device manager but had it not working properly.  For myself and some others who don't have it all, it's still an issue that must be fixed.
Logged
P67A-GD65(B3), i5-2500K (Bios 1.80)
8GB Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9R
CORSAIR AX-850
XFX 6870 HD Black Edition
Crucial M4 64GB SSD
1TB WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
640GB  WD Caviar Black SATA II HD
Sony Optiarc CD/DVD 24x SATA
Creative X-Fi Fatality (PCI) Sound
Windows 7 Ultimate x64

bullus

  • SERGEANT
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 23
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #398 on: 28-January-11, 11:00:51 »

The new BIOSes above 1.6 [e.g. 1.7 and any later] may not works property if this update is not applied.
It's similar like in notebooks, EC-FW update and BIOS Update.
There is relation ship between the EC-FW and the BIOS,
the same is here too,
there is relation ship between Intel's ME and the BIOS.
Each Intel's ME version cover the specified BIOS-es version region/range.
ME updates is not always required,
but when its required and vendor say such they should be applied in all cases.
Since Intel & MSI provide such it should be applied in all cases.
[Older BIOSes can works with newest/latest Intel's ME,
but newer BIOSes requires latest Intel's ME],
In short if the ME isn't updated,
the newest BIOSes will not works properly or with side effects.
The Intel's ME update is not optional, it should be applied in all cases.


Sorry ,I misread it was necessary and not an option.
Logged
H2O i7 2600K
H2O cfx 6950
MSI P67A-GD65 bios 1.8b6
4gb Corsair Dominator GT 1866 8-9-8-24-1T
Coolermaster M1000
W7 Enterprise SP1 64bit

PaulWendt

  • CORPORAL
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 14
Re: msi p67a gd65 bios 1.6 dont save
« Reply #399 on: 28-January-11, 11:21:42 »

I assume you mean for the ones that have it showing in device manager but had it not working properly.  For myself and some others who don't have it all, it's still an issue that must be fixed.
Yes, I would hope he meant that, too.  The Control Center program complains that the CPU multiplier cannot be changed due to missing MEI when it gets launched.  Additionally, the Intel MEI installer itself complains that the computer does not meet the prerequisites for installing them [I've tried to install the MEI drivers manually, but since the ME firmware can't be flashed, the software doesn't even see the hardware as being present].

This is a mess and the conflicting statements make it seem as if MSI doesn't know what is going on.
Logged
P67A-GD65, i7 2600K Sandy Bridge
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W
MSI R6970-2PM2D2GD5 Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5
OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD3-2VTX120G 3.5" 120GB SATA II
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s
LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30
Pages: 1 ... 6 7 [8] 9 10   Go Up