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Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« on: 10-January-11, 23:28:54 »

Just bought a core i5 2500k and msi P67-GD65 yesterday.  And while it works fine at stock, the issue comes up when trying to change the core voltage.

I can change the core volt when the cpu multiplier is at stock (33).  The second I change the multiplier to anything else, (34-44) the core voltage will only stay at 1.208 regardless of what I type in bios.

Now I have tried turning on and off all the various power saving features.  Including Eist, turbo, c1e, etc etc.  I am also checking the voltage with both cpu z and directly with a multimeter so the numbers are not a misreading.  I think I've gone through all that can be gone through.

If I run everything at stock, it runs at 1.252 by auto, or it will run at whatever I tell it to... Only when the multiplier is changed it drops lower to 1.208... As you can imagine this makes it hard to overclock, which is somewhat the point of getting a k series cpu.

The bios is version 1.4 which is the newest off msi.  Any thoughts or should I return the board and go with a different one?
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #1 on: 11-January-11, 00:08:24 »

Just check if your Intel Turbo Boost Technology is enabled in the BIOS. I remember one of the reviews that I read, that with the Sandy Bridge technology this has to be enabled to be able to OC. It may not be the solution, but its worth a check.
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #2 on: 11-January-11, 00:39:34 »

Just check if your Intel Turbo Boost Technology is enabled in the BIOS. I remember one of the reviews that I read, that with the Sandy Bridge technology this has to be enabled to be able to OC. It may not be the solution, but its worth a check.

Tried it, doesn't make a difference.  Think the times I've seen turbo boost in regards to oc'ing is when you have a locked version and your overclocking by using the turbo boost instead of core multiplier.
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #3 on: 11-January-11, 00:48:33 »

Rather than multiplier, try with just bclk. :-))
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #4 on: 11-January-11, 00:58:09 »

The bclk range is limited on the new P67 chipset (100 is stock and some reviews mention the ability to get to about 103), its basically only multiplier OC. Yes, HU16E is correct, this should be in the OC section. One thing you can try is the OC Genie function to see if that has an influence on the core voltage. If it does, i.e. the voltage is changed (increased) to compensate for the higher multiplier then it may be a BIOS issue preventing manual adjustment.
EDIT: Here is a quick low down on what Guru3D did with this board. http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-p67gd65-motherboard-review/11
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #5 on: 11-January-11, 02:59:17 »

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P67-GD65

I am sure you are talking about the P67A-GD65 [MS-7681], correct?

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The bios is version 1.4 which is the newest off msi.

The latest final BIOS Version for the P67A-GD65 is actually v1.6, not v1.4:

http://eu.msi.com/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=bios&maincat_no=1&prod_no=2226

Even more interesting for you may be the fact that the BIOS Department is working so hard on smoothing out the BIOS that there is already a v1.7b4 BETA Release out, which is probably the one you should go for.  I will create a BETA BIOS (EFI/Click BIOS) thread later today which will also include changelogs. Numerous OC related issues have been fixed since v1.4.

This is a CPU-Z screenshot of user using BIOS v1.7b4:

http://msi-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&postID=768624#post768624

 
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #6 on: 11-January-11, 03:17:42 »

Maybe a dumb remark, but did you try to change it with + and - on numpad and/or page_up and page_down?
Just typing wont do it in bios, as far as I recall, dont know how it is on UEFI, that will be a few months away for me still   ;D

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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #7 on: 11-January-11, 13:20:16 »

@ zsde: using the OC genie I'm still getting the same 1.208 voltage on both cpuz and multimeter.  Drops down to 1.2 because of speed stepping to 16x mutli powersave.  As for the page on guru3d, thats kinda copy paste from every P67 mobo they reviewed so some of the things they mention like changing TDP aren't even an option on msi's.

@Jack: wut  is up with the discrimination between Europe and american site for bios?  On the american site the newest is 1.4.  On the other hand not sure if the nomenclature is off considering the date of EU1.5 and USA1.4 are both 12/17/2010, same bios with different names for different regions?  But the 1.6 is definitely newer so will try that.  As for pics of 1.7, I'll take your word for it as the rest is in german and you have to register to see attached items =p

@DaLoona: yes... would be hard to have made all the changes I did make in bios without knowing numpad =p  As for UEFI... meh, right now I have to alternate between having to use mouse and when to use keyboard.  You can make changes with mouse but mainly the mouse has to be used for scrolling because it doesn't track the keyboard selection well.  Also the root menu where you select what submenu you want is kinda annoying on keyboard as it doesn't highlight your selection, just slightly dims it, so selecting with mouse is a lot easier as you can see what your selecting...  Not a great GUI imo.
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #8 on: 11-January-11, 13:29:13 »

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As for pics of 1.7, I'll take your word for it as the rest is in german and you have to register to see attached items =p

That is why I have uploaded the picture I was talking about here.  :hat tip:

BIOS v1.7b4 can be found here.  ---> https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=144655.0

If you decide to flash your BIOS, you might as well use v1.7b4 (the overclock which can be seen on the CPU-Z picture above was done with v1.7b4).

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On the american site the newest is 1.4.  On the other hand not sure if the nomenclature is off considering the date of EU1.5 and USA1.4 are both 12/17/2010, same bios with different names for different regions?

Not sure. Can you give me a link to the US Site you are talking about?

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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #9 on: 11-January-11, 14:22:00 »

Just finished trying 1.6 and while it works for accessing bios, windows fails to open everytime.  I have win7 on one hard drive and vista on another, both failed at windows screen.  I reverted the bios to 1.4 and can boot into windows again.  So I'm wondering if there is a difference between EU and USA P67A-GD65?  Will still try the 1.7 beta tho.

As for the US site, or at least the one my DNS sends me to: http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P67A-GD65.html#/?div=BIOS
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #10 on: 11-January-11, 14:45:02 »

Thanks Jack, that 1.7B4 worked.  Booted windows with a 45x at 1.4v.  With the old vcore locked at 1.208 I was never able to get past 43x.  This bios should do for now, thanks.  Greatly appreciate it.
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #11 on: 11-January-11, 14:45:42 »

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So I'm wondering if there is a difference between EU and USA P67A-GD65?

No, there isn't.  They have just not updated their site yet.  This is also not an EU vs US thingy.  The EU Site I linked you to is basically the same as the MSI Global Site, just hosted on EU Server.

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Thanks Jack, that 1.7B4 worked.  Booted windows with a 45x at 1.4v.  With the old vcore locked at 1.208 I was never able to get past 43x.  This bios should do for now, thanks.  Greatly appreciate it.

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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #12 on: 11-January-11, 17:17:07 »

ah that explains the EU and USA sites, as for why 1.6 bios didn't work, your link was to P67A-GD55 instead of P67A-GD65, assuming the extra sata chipset the 65 has was messing it up on using the 55's bios =p

So ya, no difference between USA and Euro boards, but is a difference between 55 and 65 :)
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #13 on: 11-January-11, 17:30:14 »

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So ya, no difference between USA and Euro boards, but is a difference between 55 and 65
The BIOS looks to be the same for both boards as far as I can tell. Both list as MS-7681 & same BIOS version numbers & release dates. Possibly the same BIOS covers all the boards in the MS-7681 family. Always best to confirm & be sure though.

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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #14 on: 12-January-11, 21:57:53 »

I see that a released version of 1.7 is now (Jan 12, 2011) available. Does it have the same fixes as the beta?
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #15 on: 12-January-11, 23:42:06 »

Once an official version is released, in this case v1.7 it will include all the changes contained in the preceding v1.7Bx (beta versions).
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #16 on: 13-January-11, 01:37:53 »

Hey I have the same issue with my P67-c43, is there not an updated bios for that board yet?
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #17 on: 13-January-11, 02:06:19 »

I, too, am having this issue (can't adjust Vcore and Multiplier at the same time) with my P67S-C43 (MS-7673) and would be grateful for any update on the status of a new BIOS for this board.
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Re: Issue with core volt on P67-GD65
« Reply #18 on: 13-January-11, 03:17:59 »

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P67 what? S? A? This thread is GD series, not the same BIOS. Both of you, allbusiness & Lomic, look in the MSI Website. It looks like V1.5 is the newest for your series boards. Please, others, open a new thread for your specific board series so as not to clutter this one up going off in several directions.
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