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MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« on: 03-August-12, 00:34:30 »



Yeah, ok, it all looks great, but how do they work together outside of a test laboratory in a real world home built pc?

That question was answered very quickly, without any special fiddling about required beyond normal setting changes.

When the Corsair kit was installed, the usual 'Memory Has Changed' screen popped up. No big deal, a simple check in the UEFI/BIOS looked like everything defaulted to ensure a successful post and bootup. Yup, that's exactly what took place. Corsair took the right approach IMO to set the profile to default to DDR3 1333. At the next restart, it was a simple matter to set the manufacturer's recommended rated speed of 2133, CR 1, 9 11 10 27, tRFC 171 on Auto DRAM V. Posted and booted right up.

Yeah, ok, how about if 8GB isn't enough RAM for me?

Figured that might be a question asked. Here is the finding. To make it more real, often pc builders buy components at different times. This can be problematic, but that is best discussed on a case by case basis. Back to the answer. Purchased on purpose a kit from a different batch, even the serial numbers were way apart. After they were installed, the usual 'Mem. Change' screen again, but at F10 - Enter, it posted and booted right up! No increase of DRAM V. was required. In fact, with it set to Auto, the 'Read Only' actually shows the voltage to be 1.472v's (by meter, it was just below 1.50v's).

Note that CPU-Z X.M.P. for this RAM shows wrong. In the UEFI/BIOS, Memory-Z, it shows correctly.





Conclusion? I would say MSI mainboards and this RAM are going to work out just fine together. :biggthumbsup:

 

 



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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #1 on: 30-August-12, 12:30:31 »

Wow nice rig Froggy ;)
How about Corsair RAM's performance in overclocking? Especially with your 3770K :) Ehm is it HU16E???
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #2 on: 30-August-12, 15:23:52 »

How about Corsair RAM's performance in overclocking? Especially with your 3770K :)

No problems were noted in the 44X - 45X range. Never tried them at this speed in an 'extreme' OC scenario. As far as the Ivy CPU's are concerned, not all that impressed. With two, the best they will do is 51X on one and 52X on the other using conventional cooling.
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #3 on: 30-August-12, 19:55:53 »

Hey man, do these glow (LED's installed)  right out of the box, or do you have to add them in? I can't seem to find a definitive answer on google. Corsair says it supports customized LED's coming in September, but the picture on their site shows it glowing blue...
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #4 on: 30-August-12, 23:16:03 »

The LED's are white and work as advertised right from the package with nothing special required. Plug them in the DIMM slots and that's it. :biggthumbsup:
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #5 on: 31-August-12, 00:04:50 »

The LED's are white and work as advertised right from the package with nothing special required. Plug them in the DIMM slots and that's it. :biggthumbsup:

Ohh white, they look blueish in the picture on the site. :D

Thanks for the reply, going to order these tomorrow!
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #6 on: 31-August-12, 02:42:28 »

This September, they are going to offer other color LED's so it is possible to replace the white that come as standard. Most likely at least green, blue, or red.

As a side note, these worked great on MSI's P67A-GD65(B3), Z68A-GD80(G3), Z77A-GD80, and the X79's. I just noticed today they now offer a 32GB 2133 @ 1.50v kit. Wow! With even higher speed RAM to come. :-)) Now if only the CPU IMC's will be able to handle it. We shall see.
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #7 on: 31-August-12, 02:51:55 »

I am afraid CPU IMC's will lag behind until the next generation.
And from an article not too long ago, it was apparant that the bigger the gap between native IMC support and the RAM frequency, the less benefit. In fact, peformance starts deteriorating after a certain point.
With Sandy the upper end seems 2133 and with Ivy at around 2400 although within the article it was mentioned that they experienced a reduction in FPS in gaming at 2400 whilst testing with an Ivy.
 
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #8 on: 31-August-12, 03:39:07 »

I don't want to take the thread too far off topic, but until recently, I didn't know an Ivy 22nm CPU was needed to get over 2200 RAM speed on some MSI mainboards. I have had some Corsair CMGTX3 2400's sitting around for a long time and always wondered how come they never would go past 2200 and now I know. So, with a Z77 and an Ivy in it, I was finally able to get them to 2400 speed. The results were decent, but not a lot of improvement over 2133. Not enough to justify the 1.648v's it takes to power them. ;-))

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In fact, peformance starts deteriorating after a certain point.

I've seen that as well.

Added: They OC over the already 2133 'rated' speed easily with only changing the DRAM Frequency from 2133 to 2200 without making any other changes. :biggthumbsup:

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« Reply #9 on: 07-September-12, 13:53:56 »

Just got my sticks in the mail yesterday! http://www.corsair.com/en/memory-by-product-family/dominator-platinum-ddr3-memory/dominator-platinum-with-corsair-link-connector-1-5v-8-gb-dual-channel-ddr3-memory-kit-cmd8gx3m2a2133c9.html

Posted right up @2133 with no problems! Got them down to 1T-9-10-10-21 with no voltage tweaking, prime95 testing now (blend 6 hours so far).

Happy with them!
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #10 on: 08-September-12, 02:35:15 »

 :biggthumbsup: Nice! Able to tweak the tRFC a little tighter as well?
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« Reply #11 on: 08-September-12, 04:11:04 »

:biggthumbsup: Nice! Able to tweak the tRFC a little tighter as well?

I've actually never messed with any of the RAM timings below tRAS in the BIOS... :D  Currently the BIOS says tRFC is running at 171, but that seems a bit high! I'll look up more about this tomorrow when I wake up, but in the meantime do you have some advise as to what tRFC I should start with these sticks?

Also, is there any point in tweaking any of the other timings? I would assume not... might as well ask! :P
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« Reply #12 on: 08-September-12, 15:55:31 »

tRFC 171 is correct. I don't mess with any setting below that one. It seems high, but not so bad when compared with some. One kit of 2000 GT's I have need a tRFC of 200, so the myth of fast RAM speed once again comes to light. It may be reading 2000 RAM speed, but the timings and voltage to make it work, barely if at all, beat 1600 with low voltage and tight timings. Only way to verify these performance results is of course through testing and running the numbers for comparison.
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« Reply #13 on: 08-September-12, 16:38:41 »

tRFC 171 is correct. I don't mess with any setting below that one. It seems high, but not so bad when compared with some. One kit of 2000 GT's I have need a tRFC of 200, so the myth of fast RAM speed once again comes to light. It may be reading 2000 RAM speed, but the timings and voltage to make it work, barely if at all, beat 1600 with low voltage and tight timings. Only way to verify these performance results is of course through testing and running the numbers for comparison.

Doing some quick reading online about other RAM kits at 2133, I dropped the tRFC down to 125, prime 95 has been running for 3 hours so far. So I guess this kit is just a beast with tightening up timings? Almost seems too good to be true! :D
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« Reply #14 on: 08-September-12, 16:47:04 »

125 if sick, I have corsair vengence and have it a 9-10-10-24 1T
I still have my RFC at 161, I don't think I'll be able to get it under 150ish.
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« Reply #15 on: 08-September-12, 17:08:48 »

125 if sick, I have corsair vengence and have it a 9-10-10-24 1T
I still have my RFC at 161, I don't think I'll be able to get it under 150ish.

Interesting... that is quite a big difference! This is kind of a stupid question I feel, but i'm assuming setting tRFC too low would cause BSOD's in prime 95 just like the other timings, correct?
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« Reply #16 on: 08-September-12, 18:28:27 »

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i'm assuming setting tRFC too low would cause BSOD's in prime 95 just like the other timings, correct?

 :shocked_anim:  tRFC 125? And stable?

Yes, that is true. Too low a tRFC can cause BSOD just like other timing settings can.

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So I guess this kit is just a beast with tightening up timings? Almost seems too good to be true!

I don't know what to say! Stability tests and actual daily use without any problems can't be disputed. I will see if I can match your tweaks. Each individual system reacts different, so your results may not be typical, but wow! You got a good thing going there! :biggthumbsup:

Added: It will be interesting to see if it is possible for me to achieve your result with 2 unmatched batch kits.
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« Reply #17 on: 08-September-12, 18:37:14 »

Going on almost 5 hours prime 95 on blend... seems good at tRFC 125!

EDIT: tRFC at 80 would not POST, but 90 did! Giving prime 95 a go and will report back.

Also, leaving the RAM voltage on "Auto" in the BIOS, with XMP enabled is okay, right? I saw it reporting 1.497v or something like that in the BIOS...
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« Reply #18 on: 08-September-12, 19:07:49 »

Try intel burn test, see if it will survive that on maximum with that rfc.

I too will try to match this with regular vengence and a sb cpu. (Fat chancel lol)
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #19 on: 08-September-12, 20:39:41 »

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Also, leaving the RAM voltage on "Auto" in the BIOS, with XMP enabled is okay, right?

If it works, it should be fine. I'm still in a bit of shock at your results!
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #20 on: 08-September-12, 20:57:59 »

If it works, it should be fine. I'm still in a bit of shock at your results!

I am shocked myself, best kit of RAM i've owned! So I ran IBT on maximum, 20 passes, at tRFC 85!

EDIT: Was able to post at 82, but gave an instant BSOD. 83 failed IBT after test 2. 84 failed after test 15.

I'll go back and do more IBT at 85 and prime 95 blend while I sleep to ensure its stable at 85.

Do you guys know of any good RAM benchmarking programs I can try out tomorrow to test out this RAM? :-P)
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #21 on: 09-September-12, 00:45:25 »

I am testing a kit like that myself at the moment. They are just awesome.
You can use the 7zip benchmark. shows the actual compression and decompression performance for a typical zip file.
MaxxMem2 is another useful benchmark. http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Benchmarks/MaxxMEM2.shtml
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I am shocked myself, best kit of RAM i've owned! So I ran IBT on maximum, 20 passes, at tRFC 85!

 :shocked_anim: Simply speechless! Can't wait to do some more experimenting & seeing some performance numbers. Just to recap, 2133, 8GB, CR 1, 9 10 10 21, tRFC 85 @ 1.50v's. I knew MSI's mainboards all liked this stuff, but this is something else! :-))
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« Reply #23 on: 09-September-12, 12:38:53 »

:shocked_anim: Simply speechless! Can't wait to do some more experimenting & seeing some performance numbers. Just to recap, 2133, 8GB, CR 1, 9 10 10 21, tRFC 85 @ 1.50v's. I knew MSI's mainboards all liked this stuff, but this is something else! :-))

Yup, I have the 8GB model. So @2133 1T-9-10-10-21-85 1.492v, IBT went through 40 passes at maximum, and prime 95 went 9 hours on blend, no problems. Seems like these are my numbers! :biggthumbsup: This is on my GD80 system below, btw.

And heres a benchmark result (since I couldnt figure out how to add a picture, heres a link. Lol):

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« Reply #24 on: 09-September-12, 14:16:38 »

I too ran these setting with Corsiar vengence 2133 memory. 10 passes of IBT no problems  :think:

I never would have tried to tighten them quite this much, thanks!

Corsair really make some great memory.
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« Reply #25 on: 09-September-12, 15:18:49 »

I too ran these setting with Corsiar vengence 2133 memory. 10 passes of IBT no problems  :think:

I never would have tried to tighten them quite this much, thanks!

Corsair really make some great memory.

Might wanna try a little more than 10 passes with IBT, as I had a failure at pass 15. Maybe like 20-30 passes. But I agree, they do make great memory! :biggthumbsup:
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #26 on: 09-September-12, 15:26:24 »

 To add images to your posts:

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 Photobucket is a good image hosting service, I've been using it for quite a few years.
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« Reply #27 on: 09-September-12, 15:45:06 »

To add images to your posts:

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I tried that, but it gives me the broken link picture. It may be dropbox (I use it because I got 50GB free when i bought my Samsung GS3).

Ill give photobucket a try right now.

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« Reply #28 on: 10-September-12, 21:58:40 »

Further tests are now complete, and must say they are very good. Thanks to 00 oh 7's testing, I doubt I would have tried tighteneing timings as far. With DRAM V. unchanged for the tests, 1.507v's by DMM, results were stable for 16GB @ 2200, CR 1, 9 10 10 21, tRFC 85 with an average 7-Zip of 27,634. However, this proved to be worse than loosening timings just a bit to 9 10 10 22, tRFC 88 for an average 7-Zip of 28,115! This proves to me there is a 'sweet spot' to be found with each individual system configuration. Depends on how much fiddling and tweaking one wants to do to find the 'optimum'. 

This is very good. 7-Zip 27,634;



This was even better with the slightly looser settings. 7-Zip 28,115;

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Further tests are now complete, and must say they are very good. Thanks to 00 oh 7's testing, I doubt I would have tried tighteneing timings as far. With DRAM V. unchanged for the tests, 1.507v's by DMM, results were stable for 16GB @ 2200, CR 1, 9 10 10 21, tRFC 85 with an average 7-Zip of 27,634. However, this proved to be worse than loosening timings just a bit to 9 10 10 22, tRFC 88 for an average 7-Zip of 28,115! This proves to me there is a 'sweet spot' to be found with each individual system configuration. Depends on how much fiddling and tweaking one wants to do to find the 'optimum'.

Very interesting. Guess I will have to try to find that "sweet spot" as well! :hat tip:
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« Reply #30 on: 11-September-12, 13:43:00 »

im going to buy some of them for my next build as they look so nice to the eye ;-))

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« Reply #31 on: 12-September-12, 14:23:04 »

im going to buy some of them for my next build as they look so nice to the eye ;-))

GIMME THEM LOL

Always apprehensive, reluctant, and cautious to recommend something, but you should be successful with them as well. Corsair makes a lot of Platinum kits now, so can't vouch for all of them, however, this model that was tested is a winner. 

To make the test results more comprehensive, tested some Corsair CMGTX3 2400's for comparison. Surprisingly, the Platinums beat them in every test. Another excellent example of RAM speed doesn't always equal better. The test modules also require considerable more voltage than the Platinums, stable at 1.648v's (tRFC was 132). Out of 9 runs, the best 7-Zip was 27,950 falling short of the 28,115 average of the Platinums at 2200. Attempts at adjusting the timings other than the manufacturer's recommended settings did result in failure to POST.

   



 
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« Reply #32 on: 12-September-12, 14:27:36 »

Yip, must be the best RAM around currently.
Corsair started this leap in RAM with the Vengeance series and now they have perfected it with the Platinum.
The others will have to follow. None other with such timings and SPD at 1,5V.  :biggthumbsup:
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« Reply #33 on: 12-September-12, 15:19:42 »

Just a question out of curiosity, but what makes this kit perform so well over others? The soul factor can't be that they are "hand picked," right? Is it that they are also high density?
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« Reply #34 on: 12-September-12, 21:36:18 »

corsair never cheap out on the chips (to save money) they use unlike some others! they get high grade chips mainly from samsung now that are well tested cherrypicked chips from there batches that have next to no defects meaning they peform much better!
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« Reply #35 on: 12-September-12, 23:40:51 »

bb2k has been researching. :lol_anim: The 2133 Platinums are indeed Samsung IC 256Mx8's. The 2400 CMGTX3's are PSC IC 256Mx8's. 
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« Reply #36 on: 13-September-12, 11:41:36 »

Just some update on the Vengeance kit I got myself. This was after I was given a Platinum kit for testing. The 16GB Vengeance cost was less than the 8GB Platinum. Corsair CML16GX3M4A2133C11B Low profile.
Firstly 1T is a no-no. It boots alright but the performance then is equal to a 1333 kit.
TRFC tightning only really has a marginal influence on the 7ZIP benchmark. 7ZIP is of course highly dependent on the amount of CPU threads, and I will do another run when I have my 3770K.
MaxxMem does show the Latency difference though between 1T and 2T.
The stock TRFC is 171. I was able to get these down to 127 and my 7ZIP benchmark came out better than with the Platinum, taking into consideration that I did not change the TRFC on the Platinum.
I tried TRFC107 but the scores dropped off drastically to around 1333 values.
Overall a bargain kit that does a mighty fine job, at 10.11.11.24 when the design XMP SPD is 11.12.12.28   I'll play around a bit more with timings to see how much further I can push them.



I ran IBT for 20 runs to test stability.

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« Reply #37 on: 13-September-12, 13:28:42 »

Mr. B, would you report the IC's on the label? ver4.13 are Samsung. I'm not sure I will ever learn all the secrets of RAM. What we think should be better doesn't always turn out that way with the opposite being true. Loosen timings and get better performance. Go figure!  :shocked:  For the tinkerer, it is very interesting (sehr interessant) and kind of fun.
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« Reply #38 on: 13-September-12, 13:53:42 »

bb2k has been researching. :lol_anim: The 2133 Platinums are indeed Samsung IC 256Mx8's. The 2400 CMGTX3's are PSC IC 256Mx8's.

yes i have! i want some really badly and have been looking at how there put together (i always do some resarch before i part with my own hard earned cash lol)!

samsung make some of the better made (but expensive) and more standardised RAM chips now and im glad to see corsair are using them,  they make a point of testing the chips fully before there sent to ram manufacturers to maake sure they meet there specs needed to prevent problems!  :agrees:

i like corsair recently as they never seem to let an accountant neer the manufacturing side of there things they make! guess thats why corsair stuff tends to be more expensive then other premium brands (quality costs more money so its worth it)!
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« Reply #39 on: 13-September-12, 14:00:46 »

They are: v4.13 1,5V  ;D  Mine are actually running at just below 1,49V
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« Reply #40 on: 13-September-12, 14:31:13 »

I still not sure that all of the new vengence and dominator don't have the same memory. I don't have any dominator to compare with my vengence system to system, but my stats are very much in line with yours.
Running currently at 9-10-10-21 / 1t
Dram v: 1.55 (works at 1.5, this is a habit /shrug)
I also have the tRFC at 91, although I haven't had a chance to really play with it since I stress tested it like this.

Perhaps I have a lucky set  :think: or more likely they are putting the better memory chips in all thier vengence & dominator kits now. I will check the version to verify this in a bit. Doesn't take away from how pretty those sticks are  ;D

Edit: I send Corsair pre-sales and tech support an email asking into which lines are they installing the Samsung chips. IC V 4.13.
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #41 on: 13-September-12, 21:34:39 »

Thanks for the info on the chips guys!

As for the "sweet spot," raising the tRFC seemed to make little/no difference until it got to about 90, where I saw a decrease in performance.

As for tRAS, raising it at all gave me a decrease in performance. Now, I had read somewhere that tRAS should be CL+tRCD+2, to give enough time for the memory to cycle. Thats why I chose tRAS 21 (9+10+2). In seeing the performance drop from raising it, I decided to try to tighten it some more, and was able to get it down to 19 stable.

Out of 10 tests, the best for tRAS 21:


Out of 5 tests, the best for tRAS 19:


So now i'm thinking that whole simple math "equation" is BS, since it is 30 IBT Max tests stable, and a better performer at 19. Has anyone heard of this before?
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #42 on: 13-September-12, 21:46:01 »

Hehe, being that all of these are 1333 chip running so far out of spec that it isn't even in site I guess it's all on the table.  :lol_anim:

At 2133, memory is supposed to be clocked at 11-11-11-30. Check out the JEDEC table I have in that acticle.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=161322.0

This is what overclocking/ undertiming is all about  :biggthumbsup:
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #43 on: 13-September-12, 22:03:03 »



These tests are fairly accurate, I just got new virus protection that caused the 114's on the burn test. Man do I hate Nortons, but we get it through Comcast for free so c'est la vie...

PS: Those extra threads sure make the test come out nice Froggy  ;D
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #44 on: 13-September-12, 22:14:44 »

That formula may be a good rule of thumb, or may have worked with DDR and DDR2, but looking at JEDEC standard 1333, that would already be out. 9.9.9.24 is the standard. that would mean the 24 should be 20, which it's not. Maybe for OC'ing it may be an indicator of how far you can tighten them  :think:
These are all tweaks that probably cannot be realised anywhere else but in benchmarks and tests as performed here.    ;D
But its nice to compare similar or the same memory on similar platforms and see how close the performance figures are, yet highlight also how they differ, even at the same settings. Good to see for newbie OC'ers that even at the same settings, no two rigs will ever be the same.
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Wanted to thank all for contributing to this thread. I have most definately learned some things. :biggthumbsup:
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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #46 on: 13-September-12, 23:32:22 »

That formula may be a good rule of thumb, or may have worked with DDR and DDR2, but looking at JEDEC standard 1333, that would already be out. 9.9.9.24 is the standard. that would mean the 24 should be 20, which it's not. Maybe for OC'ing it may be an indicator of how far you can tighten them  :think:
These are all tweaks that probably cannot be realised anywhere else but in benchmarks and tests as performed here.    ;D
But its nice to compare similar or the same memory on similar platforms and see how close the performance figures are, yet highlight also how they differ, even at the same settings. Good to see for newbie OC'ers that even at the same settings, no two rigs will ever be the same.

That makes sense, since I tried to look the article up again (from Mushkin actually), and the article appears to be so old, they took it down. :lol_anim:

It is quite surprising how close our bench results really are! It is also interesting how different systems with the same memory react to timings. Learned some good things in this thread, and once again, glad I made the purchase!


Wanted to thank all for contributing to this thread. I have most definately learned some things. :biggthumbsup:

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« Reply #47 on: 13-September-12, 23:52:05 »

I think enthusiast tests like this add value in terms of being able to validate one's own obervations and results.
Once I have the new CPU installed I shall run a couple more tests to see how different the memory results may be influenced by a native 1600 IMC. Using the same platform, and same memory, it will be interesting to see if settings that are not achievable now may just be achievable.
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« Reply #48 on: 14-September-12, 00:38:29 »

I think enthusiast tests like this add value in terms of being able to validate one's own obervations and results.
Once I have the new CPU installed I shall run a couple more tests to see how different the memory results may be influenced by a native 1600 IMC. Using the same platform, and same memory, it will be interesting to see if settings that are not achievable now may just be achievable.
I'll be back  ;-))

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Re: MSI Z68A-GD80(G3) and Corsair's New RAM
« Reply #49 on: 15-September-12, 13:25:22 »

With the 3770K, surprise surprise, the maxxmem figures don't really change much, although I can boot with 1T, no problem, and it does improve the latency over the 2T settings.
I ran two tests at differing timings. The 7ZIP numbers are attributable to 8 threads, and are only slightly influenced by the timings. The mem allows me to run at 2200 as well, but there was no improvement. Suppose I'll do some more tests, but I don't think it will show any further improvements of significance.
     
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